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PostPosted: Thu Jul 07, 2011 6:40 pm 
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I normally ask the passenger to take the first cab.

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So do I unless there's a pakistani in front then I'll take the job. :D

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I may be rising to a bait here, but here goes..........
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In hindsight, if all your Taxi ranks are full of 3 companies radio cars then I would suggest that both drivers and council there have completely lost the plot of what purpose a taxi rank exists.


1st off with no knowledge of Grangemouth and it's taxi trade over the years how can you possibly say we've lost any plot? Assuming there was one before. For the past 28 years there was 2 radio companies, and approx 50 drivers between them in the town. They worked between the ranks and the radio, without fear or favour. There was no more than 4 independant drivers at any given time. The rest of the trade preferred, and still in the main do, work Falkirk to ply for trade. Just over 2 years ago a third company was formed when our rivals had a schism. Then the taking from the back really started. There's now nigh on 70 cars and 8 non-radio mainly working tesco rank.

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Also made yourselves fair game to have all your PH chums join you there if (or should it now be when?) one tier licensing breaks the surface as it surely will in Ireland shortly.


There are 2 PH in the town. They belong to the new company, surprise, surprise. I don't think they'll need to join the ranks. Their owners make sure they get (more than) their share. But that's up to them, not me or the rest of us.

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I had thought I had heard all the lame excuses given to justify defecating on your peers and thieving one from the back. but new ones surface regularly, we are a very inventive group of bedfellows when needs must.


I'm not going to justify to you or anyone else what I do, but if needs must then I'll go against my corinthian spirit when the chance arises. I don't have to agree with it, but I'm sure as hell not going to be p!ssed on by everyone else making a living whilst I feel smug in my holier than thou bubble shopping at Aldi's.

BTW I take it you glossed over the respecting the customers choice of car/company in my earlier reply. Thought so. It didn't suit your rant, I take it.

Do I sh!t on my peers, probably. But not as often as they sh!t on me. Not justification, by any means, I know. Just the way it is right now.

Have a nice night.

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captain cab wrote:
I normally ask the passenger to take the first cab.

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So do I unless there's a pakistani in front then I'll take the job. :D


:lol:

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I normally ask the passenger to take the first cab.

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So do I but, if the punter insists on using my cab and his destination is within Aberdeen City, I'd be in breach of my licence conditions to refuse him.

There are a few valid reasons for refusal (e.g. smelly, filthy, unfit due to drink or drugs, etc) but not wanting to use the car in front isn't one of them.


I should also add that I don't actually want a hire out of turn and I don't do discounts unless I'm first and the hire is going a decent distance..

Oh and I don't ask or expect anyone to move their cab to let me out and I wouldn't do it for anyone else. :wink:
If someone wants to exercise their right to take any cab, they can pay the waiting time and twiddle their thumbs. :lol:

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1st off with no knowledge of Grangemouth and it's taxi trade over the years how can you possibly say we've lost any plot? Assuming there was one before. For the past 28 years there was 2 radio companies, and approx 50 drivers between them in the town. They worked between the ranks and the radio, without fear or favour. There was no more than 4 independant drivers at any given time. The rest of the trade preferred, and still in the main do, work Falkirk to ply for trade. Just over 2 years ago a third company was formed when our rivals had a schism. Then the taking from the back really started. There's now nigh on 70 cars and 8 non-radio mainly working tesco rank.

There are 2 PH in the town. They belong to the new company, surprise, surprise. I don't think they'll need to join the ranks. Their owners make sure they get (more than) their share. But that's up to them, not me or the rest of us.

I'm not going to justify to you or anyone else what I do, but if needs must then I'll go against my corinthian spirit when the chance arises. I don't have to agree with it, but I'm sure as hell not going to be p!ssed on by everyone else making a living whilst I feel smug in my holier than thou bubble shopping at Aldi's.

BTW I take it you glossed over the respecting the customers choice of car/company in my earlier reply. Thought so. It didn't suit your rant, I take it.

Do I sh!t on my peers, probably. But not as often as they sh!t on me. Not justification, by any means, I know. Just the way it is right now.

Have a nice night.


A Taxi rank is a Taxi rank wherever in the island it may be.

That many have lost sight of its original purpose, well that's down to the clowns that allowed it to happen. Some out of self servicing-helping it along the way.

The loss of this original purpose means that no longer can a driver come out as sole provider 5 or 6 days a week, do his 8 hours and return home to enjoy his family with a sustainable income.

Can anyone here remember those days?

Is what we have now a thing that's called progress?

BTW I have nothing against customer choice, unless there was some objection to accessibility then as a customer I would always respect the first car tradition. Unfortunately there are many, particularly at pub closing that consider part of their nights merriment to be "winding up" the taxi drivers. And some unfortunately react like trained monkeys dancing the customers tune to catch the peanuts offered. If a customer really had preference for a particular driver then fine, we have all been there...but they would normally ring them direct to pick up away from the rank...its all about that funny old thing called respect; that many of us have lost in dignity somewhere along the way.

Thought I might also add, I can emphasise with your situation, when it starts there's no stopping it, only to say they done it to me , I'll do it to them and the snowball gets bigger-we do our sweet monkey dances for regulators and punters alike...while we all get the poorer for it in both money and self respect.


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here at the staton the punter will go to the first car and often be sent to the 5th or 6th car which just happens to be from the same company :evil: :shock: so if a punter does come your way you take them or else you could be there all day while the asian drivers carve the work up between them although there a are a couple who will use rank etiquette

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I recently travelled by train and needed a taxi at my destination ,the taxi rank had 10 or so hackneys ranging from transit 8 seat mini bus to small salons but there was a new Chrysler C300 as well in the middle of the queue. I went straight to him and got in ,he said about the front taxi but my answer was no thanks its the same money in all the taxis so I have the comfort thanks.So off we went . the driver told me that it happens a lot, Well he has invested in a luxury car , Why take a small salon or mini bus when you can have the luxury at the same cost.


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I dont blame you i blame the driver.If people started doing that here ,they euther wouldnt get off the rank or they wouldnt get on next time.Feckin low lifes


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I dont blame you i blame the driver.If people started doing that here ,they euther wouldnt get off the rank or they wouldnt get on next time.Feckin low lifes


You blame the driver for what exactly? Customer choice :? Perhaps you blame the driver for a smart investment for his business

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Nothing to do with it ,you might aswell get the sixth cab on the rank cause its a nice shade of blue ? Once you start this and discounting its a slippery slope.Luckily there is some rank etiquete here ,maybe not elsewhere which is a shame


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Nothing to do with it ,you might aswell get the sixth cab on the rank cause its a nice shade of blue ? Once you start this and discounting its a slippery slope.Luckily there is some rank etiquete here ,maybe not elsewhere which is a shame


Customer choice has nothing to do with it? :shock: Rank etiquette is all very nice if you're a taxi driver, but, the customer does have a choice and that choice is more important than rank etiquette imo

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Dont agree with you sorry earning a living in a semi decent surrounding ? Once you start undercuting, backloading and all the rest of this sort of [edited by admin] it a slippery slope.Try getting off a rank behind me cause you have a newer cab,cheaper fair,nicer clothes what next.....


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I'm sure I don't like the idea of punters choosing the best cab on the rank.

Often they are owned by folks who don't need the money, whilst the lads with the older cabs might.

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At the end of the day i just dont get the mentality of it no wonder it becomes dog eat dog.can honestly say ive never entertained the thought of going of from sixth turn cause the punter wants me or my cab.Sorry unless its the kids with no money!!! Just play the game i dont remember anyone walking off in a strop cause they cant get what they want,they just put up with it cause its fair.As for the firms that discount even they dont backload first cab first job dont like it go somewhere else simple :wink:


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At the end of the day i just dont get the mentality of it no wonder it becomes dog eat dog.can honestly say ive never entertained the thought of going of from sixth turn cause the punter wants me or my cab.Sorry unless its the kids with no money!!! Just play the game i dont remember anyone walking off in a strop cause they cant get what they want,they just put up with it cause its fair.As for the firms that discount even they dont backload first cab first job dont like it go somewhere else simple :wink:


How fair is it when the LA makes some license a WAV and allows others to license luxury saloons?

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