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bloodnock
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captain cab wrote:
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Of course bigger Vehicles should charge more (even receive Subsidies)..its why Buses and Trains have to have more punters to pay for their extra running costs.

On a lesser Scale a 4 seater runs cheaper than an 8 seater and for that reason anything the size of an 8 seater whether it carries one wheelchair bound passenger or 8 able bodied passengers should charge the same single price per equal journey...no one subsidises a Taxi owner to run a bigger car.

And as Wannabee points out the Wheelchair user will quite possibly have a Motability car of their own or a Mobility allowance that covers their extra costs.

I still struggle to see why a Disabled person who is Unemployed or employed should have any more right to get around for free than a hard at heel able bodied person does...its the very reason the government has made Buses, Trains and a Big percentage of Taxis Wheelchair friendly...

We are getting to the point where being abled bodied puts you at a travel disadvantage to those of the Disabled groups..

The Carless poor need to get to the shops and out and about just like the Disabled do. Are not the poor just as much a prisoner of their homes as any other group.

That said....its not Fare to charge A disabled person more than an able person for the exact same journey in any given vehicle.


A lot of what you wrote is an urban myth.......I suggest you read what DPTAC told the NTA last year in Sunderland.

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No Thanks...If its a Government sponsored independant body I'll stick to the Myth..it'll probably be more accurate in the Truth department. :roll:
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We are getting to the point where being abled bodied puts you at a travel disadvantage to those of the Disabled groups..


FINALLY someone notices!

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edders23 wrote:
well I work in an area where I am the ONLY Wav and as a result get stuck with all the wheelchair jobs and i do charge the same BUT it doesn't pay me to do so because my fuel costs are higher it takes about 5 or 6 minutes to load and unload at each end for which I cannot charge

I have suggested to the council that they make it a rule that all 8 seaters should be WAV's but they say that as they get no complaints they don't see the point so the more lucrative 8 seater work is heavily contested by battered old transits and citroen relays

If it was a more level playing field i.e. a number of vehicles able to share the wheelchair work I can understand it BUT the onl;y way to encourage companies to INVEST in such vehicles is to allow them to make a reasonable return on them it takes me 20 to 25 mimnutes to do a £2.50 wheelchair fare so if there are too many of them in on a day earnings are well down

I have driven a Wav for over 12 years but it is very clear that I am a mug for doing so I think when it is time to replace this one a conventional 8 seater might be a lot cheaper and give a much better return on the investment


are you hack or PH?

id have thought a list of extras would be legal (pushcahirs, prams and wheelchairs) after all an able bodided mum with a pram cant go out without it....

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i dont see councillors coming out to push wheelchairs up ramps...

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i dont see councillors coming out to push wheelchairs up ramps...


not without the local press being there :lol:

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wannabeeahack wrote:
i dont see councillors coming out to push wheelchairs up ramps...


The only thing Councillors ever push up is their own Council income and expense allowances.

Theyre very much "Do as Monkey says not what Monkey Does" :roll:
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edders23 wrote:
it takes about 5 or 6 minutes to load and unload at each end for which I cannot charge

You're entitled to charge waiting time though, does that not apply to time spent loading ?

I think the hiring starts as soon as you start having to do any work for the customer, if you're loading shopping, wheelchairs or helping them carry a TV out of the house - anything other than just sitting in the vehicle - they have engaged your services, and the meter should go on at that point. But I don't think you should charge anything more than the meter, unless the LA allows for extras. And that might only be another 20p.
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sasha wrote:
edders23 wrote:
it takes about 5 or 6 minutes to load and unload at each end for which I cannot charge

You're entitled to charge waiting time though, does that not apply to time spent loading ?

I think the hiring starts as soon as you start having to do any work for the customer, if you're loading shopping, wheelchairs or helping them carry a TV out of the house - anything other than just sitting in the vehicle - they have engaged your services, and the meter should go on at that point. But I don't think you should charge anything more than the meter, unless the LA allows for extras. And that might only be another 20p.


When the hire starts (and ends) has been discussed on here time and again. There does not seem to be any agreement on this. Our licensing officer insists that the hire starts when the journey commences and ends when you reach the destination. Loading and unloading are not chargeable. The only exception seems to be when you have been booked for a specific time and the customer is late. But that is her opinion and not neccesarily anyone elses.

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