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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 1:26 am 
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Private Reggie wrote:
The Medallion system is for the Local Authority to decide


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The medallion system is on the Table


Yes, that's where mince normally ends up, even if it's eventually flushed down the lavvy.

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They do see the difference between granting 20 licences for £30k or my alternative of Granting 20 licences for £800k, lets just wait and see and after the consultation process we can then see who has bragging rights, not my intention though, protecting the trade as is, is :wink:


Dougie, even if it did happen it would require a change in the legislation, which seems doubtful, because it's a can of worms waited to be spilt onto the table to accompany the mince.

If the council are telling you otherwise then they're treating you as if you're zipped up at the back.

Let sleeping dogs lie is a basic tenet of modern political philosophy. :D


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:18 am 
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The Trade in Edinburgh already operates within a grey market a medallion system, all we are asking is the way things are, are recognised and accepted, allowing our local authority to profit and restrict through cost the number of licences on Edinburgh's streets.

I've already stated we need a change in Legislation for this and there is a process and consultation ongoing, the only plan that is on the table at the moment is my idea to have the medallion system recognised and accepted, some say the current way of granting licences doesn't work as it is being constantly challenged through the courts, now give me an alternative that suits all parties, de-restriction is out of the equation as Edinburgh is a small city and a much different City to say London, Local authorities have the legal right to regulate their taxi trade's as they see fit, de-restriction is not the way our council are going.

Is there an alternative to both, i'd love to hear it :roll: :roll: :roll:

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:40 am 
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Private Reggie wrote:
I've already stated we need a change in Legislation for this
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Local authorities have the legal right to regulate their taxi trade's as they see fit


Are you sure you've thought this through properly? :roll:


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 8:42 am 
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By the way, Dougie, was your plan for the Edinburgh trams the only one on the table as well? :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:41 am 
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I've been against the Trams since day one and i'am disappointed in the amount of Money that has been wasted but hey living in East lothian i'm not going to be paying for it :D .

BUT :shock:

The last thing Edinburgh council need is a de-restricted Taxi service, the trams will bring a 4th form of public transport of which will have to attract a share of the transport market.

Your intelligent enough to work out the rest of what i could say on this :?:

Give me an alternative to de-restriction or the Medallion system, then we can debate :roll: :roll: :roll:

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:45 am 
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Private Reggie wrote:
Give me an alternative to de-restriction or the Medallion system, then we can debate :roll: :roll: :roll:


Strange that you don't seem to be considering the status quo here.


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 9:49 am 
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some say the current way of granting licences doesn't work as it is being constantly challenged through the courts,

Is there an alternative to both, i'd love to hear it :roll: :roll: :roll:


AND :roll:

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:13 am 
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So if court cases are the only problem then why just not get the council to administer it properly?

If they run your proposed system the way they've run the current system and the trams, then it'll just end up in court again?


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 10:57 am 
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i always thought the option of going to court was there to protect our rights.

are you a fascist dougie. :oops:


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 4:55 pm 
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Private Reggie wrote:
I've already stated we need a change in Legislation for this

That's about the only thing you have got right.

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and there is a process and consultation ongoing, the only plan that is on the table at the moment is my idea to have the medallion system recognised and accepted,

Where exactly is this process and consultation taking place? Your living room?

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some say the current way of granting licences doesn't work as it is being constantly challenged through the courts,

If CEC applied the legislation properly, they wouldn't be challenged through the courts as often and they'd win when they are.

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now give me an alternative that suits all parties,

Comply with the current legislation. :idea:

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de-restriction is out of the equation as Edinburgh is a small city and a much different City to say London,

So now Edinburgh is a rural hamlet? #-o

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Local authorities have the legal right to regulate their taxi trade's as they see fit,

Oh no they don't. [-X
They have to regulate their taxis according to the same laws as the rest of Scotland.
When they finally realise this, there will be far fewer legal challenges

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 5:01 pm 
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its fascinating to note the way Dougie discounts certain scenarios because they don't suit him, and the fails to give anything but the most ridiculous reason for the discounting.

I:E deristriction is out the window because edinburgh is small.
whats next its out the window because i drive a red cab and have curly hair.
or it rains a lot in edinburgh

and then has the cheek to say lets debate,what a clown :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 09, 2011 5:04 pm 
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btw Dougie their is a difference to having the fact that you would need a change in legislation, pointed out to you....and you stating that fact.


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 8:59 am 
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Private Reggie wrote:
I've been against the Trams since day one and i'am disappointed in the amount of Money that has been wasted but hey living in East lothian i'm not going to be paying for it :D .

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Magic eh!!!!!
Don't you just love them,does not stay in Edinburgh but wants to take,take,take from our great city and tell our councillors how to line his(an out of towner) own tweed checked woolen trousers.

Don't pay our council tax mind your own please :wink:


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:42 pm 
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dougies just trying to get the cec to make the sale of plates legal.

fer some feckin reason he cant get it through his thick skull that its not up to them ](*,)

he's attempting to pull the wool over our eyes buy disguising it as somit else.
it doesn't matter to him who profits from selling new plates, private individuals or the council.

what matters to him is who profits from the sale of old ones, aint that right dougie :lol:

myself i think if that ever were to come to fruition that the seller should have to return any excess profit to the council,so we can build more trams and put on more buses :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Sat Sep 10, 2011 3:50 pm 
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dougies just trying to get the cec to make the sale of plates legal.

fer some feckin reason he cant get it through his thick skull that its not up to them ](*,)

he's attempting to pull the wool over our eyes buy disguising it as somit else.
it doesn't matter to him who profits from selling new plates, private individuals or the council.

what matters to him is who profits from the sale of old ones, aint that right dougie :lol:

myself i think if that ever were to come to fruition that the seller should have to return any excess profit to the council,so we can build more trams and put on more buses :lol: :lol:



When you consider your earning potential 20 years ago, pro rata, your earnings are half, while running costs and plate “values” are double.

It doesn't make sense to pay out more to earn less, year on year.

Now “owners” are almost totally dependent on drivers keeping their little illusions afloat.

The truth is, without a driver most “owners” especially those in City and Central, would go under faster than a bag of bricks.

And before anyone says, City and Central have the Lions share of the work they also have higher overheads and driver rentals.

The days of a taxi “owner” working for himself are long gone. Ownership is about your overheads owning you, and you being chained to the treadmill until your legs give out. Everyone peddling faster and faster just to keep their illusion going.

Dougie and Fairplay are simply willing slaves to the system. Given the choice, they choose the dream world, to the real world, every time. :-|


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