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 Post subject: Sleep Apnea
PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:34 am 
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If you are diagnosed with Sleep apnea, will you lose your badge?


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 Post subject: Re: Sleep Apnea
PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:39 am 
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If you are diagnosed with Sleep apnea, will you lose your badge?



Yes until you pass a medical clearing you to drive, you will also lose your driving licence.

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 Post subject: Re: Sleep Apnea
PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 7:59 am 
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Midlander wrote:
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If you are diagnosed with Sleep apnea, will you lose your badge?



Yes until you pass a medical clearing you to drive, you will also lose your driving licence.


Why is that? Sleep apnea is a condition where by you temporarily stop breathing whilst asleep isn't it? It doesn't affect you whilst you are awake does it?

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 Post subject: Re: Sleep Apnea
PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:01 am 
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If you are diagnosed with Sleep apnea, will you lose your badge?

I would imagine a person with such a condition would be suspended until they get a medical certificate to say the condition is being kept under control by medication.

The question the council will ask is would any of us want our family and friends to be taken from A to B in a cab driven by a chap with that condition.

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 Post subject: Re: Sleep Apnea
PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:04 am 
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grandad wrote:
Why is that? Sleep apnea is a condition where by you temporarily stop breathing whilst asleep isn't it? It doesn't affect you whilst you are awake does it?

Taken from wikipeadia.

Sleep apnea can have numerous effects on cognition in the waking state. Those with sleep apnea have daytime fatigue, impaired reaction time and vision problems which contribute to sleep-deprived driving.[4] Other effects include difficulty with information processing, judgment, and short term memory. These effects can severely interrupt daytime cognition.[4] Behavioral effects also accompany sleep apnea. Behaviors such as decreased vigilance and motivation as well as moodiness and aggressiveness impact both social and occupational status.[4] Many behavioral as well as cognitive effects of sleep apnea can be very dangerous in many occupations especially manual labor and machine operating. Patients may attribute daytime sleepiness to other factors and be unaware that their sleep is interrupted, so that enquiries about their sleep quality fail to provide diagnosis.

Sleep-deprived driving

Sleep-deprived driving is the operation of a motor vehicle while being cognitively impaired by a lack of sleep. Sleep deprivation is a major cause of motor vehicle accidents, and it can impair the human brain as much as alcohol can. According to a 1998 survey, 23% of adults have fallen asleep while driving.[1] According to the United States Department of Transportation, male drivers admit to have fallen asleep while driving twice as much as female drivers.[2]

In the United States, 250,000 drivers fall asleep at the wheel everyday, according to the Division of Sleep Medicine at Harvard Medical School and in a national poll by the National Sleep Foundation, 54% of adult drivers said they had driven while drowsy during the past year with 28% saying they had actually fallen asleep while driving. According to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, drowsy driving is a factor in more than 100,000 crashes, resulting in 1,550 deaths and 40,000 injuries annually.[3]

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 Post subject: Re: Sleep Apnea
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Behaviors such as decreased vigilance and motivation as well as moodiness and aggressiveness impact both social and occupational status.


Are you saying that most women suffer from sleep apnea? :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Sleep Apnea
PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 8:14 am 
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grandad wrote:
Midlander wrote:
eightball1 wrote:
If you are diagnosed with Sleep apnea, will you lose your badge?



Yes until you pass a medical clearing you to drive, you will also lose your driving licence.


Why is that? Sleep apnea is a condition where by you temporarily stop breathing whilst asleep isn't it? It doesn't affect you whilst you are awake does it?



Sleep apnea is where you wake up hundreds of times in the night without knowing, you'll have to spend a night at the sleep unit at the local hospital where they'll asses you overnight.

When you've been sorted they'll give you a machine that you'll have to out on when you go to bed at night.

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 Post subject: Re: Sleep Apnea
PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 10:06 am 
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One of my fleet clients had a driver who it turned out had sleep apnea. Trouble was he denied it and whilst his doctor tried to help this Asian gentlement, he kept missing hospital appointments. Several passengers complained to the council that the guy seemed drunk when driving and his speech was slurred. Ultimately his license was revoked. There was one worry, he had a head on collision with a motorcyclist who subsequently died. The accident report was that the motorcyclist came speeding round the corner on the wrong side of the road. It was at night and there were no witnesses. There has always been a nagging doubt as to what really happend.

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 Post subject: Re: Sleep Apnea
PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 6:15 pm 
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One of my fleet clients had a driver who it turned out had sleep apnea. Trouble was he denied it and whilst his doctor tried to help this Asian gentlement, he kept missing hospital appointments. Several passengers complained to the council that the guy seemed drunk when driving and his speech was slurred. Ultimately his license was revoked. There was one worry, he had a head on collision with a motorcyclist who subsequently died. The accident report was that the motorcyclist came speeding round the corner on the wrong side of the road. It was at night and there were no witnesses. There has always been a nagging doubt as to what really happend.



He needs taking off the road ASAP, people suffer from it but aren't aware of it until they cause an accident. Sleep Apnea can be cured by a machine which squirts little jets of oxygen up your nose while you sleep. This enables you to get a good nights sleep and not waking up hundreds of times through the night.

I know peole who have been tested who were waking up over 500 times during the night without knowing, this was causing them to fall a sleep during the day.

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 Post subject: Re: Sleep Apnea
PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2011 9:55 pm 
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grandad wrote:
Sussex wrote:
Behaviors such as decreased vigilance and motivation as well as moodiness and aggressiveness impact both social and occupational status.


Are you saying that most women suffer from sleep apnea? :mrgreen:


no thats called a pillow :badgrin:


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 Post subject: Re: Sleep Apnea
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 6:40 am 
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Midlander wrote:
I know peole who have been tested who were waking up over 500 times during the night without knowing, this was causing them to fall a sleep during the day.

That is more than once a minute on an 8 hour sleep. :shock: Does this sleep apnea affect them when they sleep during the day? If not, they should work nights. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Sleep Apnea
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grandad wrote:
Midlander wrote:
I know peole who have been tested who were waking up over 500 times during the night without knowing, this was causing them to fall a sleep during the day.

That is more than once a minute on an 8 hour sleep. :shock: Does this sleep apnea affect them when they sleep during the day? If not, they should work nights. :wink:



Granddad, Sleep Apnea is not to be ignored in the slightest. The people who suffer from it are overweight people, people who have a lifestyle of sitting down all day, smokers, heavy drinkers etc etc.

The people I know who've been diagnosed with it were horrified to find out they were waking up over 500 times during the night without them knowing.

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 Post subject: Re: Sleep Apnea
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 10:21 am 
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I have suffered from sleep apnea for 10 years you do use a machine when you have been diagnosed it dosnt squirt oxygen all it does is keep your airway open with a constant flow of air.I did not lose my license I was advised not to drive until I had my cpap machine it made no difference to my insurance, travel insurance or taxi license its just the same as a person having there eyes testing and finding they need glasses.


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 Post subject: Re: Sleep Apnea
PostPosted: Thu Sep 22, 2011 2:50 pm 
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What's zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

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 Post subject: Re: Sleep Apnea
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What's zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

To be honest it's a tad difficult to work out if you are awake or asleep. Image

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