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captain cab
PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2011 5:13 pm 
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Are the SNP still pointing towards those tiger economies such as Ireland as an example of how Scotland would be? :lol:

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No just how much Scotland would prosper not having our neighbours telling us how to spend our earnings :D


Cool....I got neighbours like that too :wink:

It was Iceland last time...till they went t*ts up.

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Are the SNP still pointing towards those tiger economies such as Ireland as an example of how Scotland would be? :lol:

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No, just pointing south of the border to see how bad it could get. :D

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Are the SNP still pointing towards those tiger economies such as Ireland as an example of how Scotland would be? :lol:

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No, just pointing south of the border to see how bad it could get. :D


Yeah......it was pretty bad when those Scots were running the show :wink:

Blair was born in Edinburgh, Scotland on 6 May 1953

Brown was born in Glasgow, Scotland on 20 Feb 1951

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Alex Salmond has always been anti English he stokes up nationalism at every turn.
If Scotland gets its independence it will be swallowed up in Europe. It would be a little poor fish being circled by the big fish of Germany and France and England. Salmond is another Brown ...tax high spend big, and let another leader and the tax payer pay the consequences later, after he is long gone and spending his gold plated pension on haggis and whiskey.

Oh by the way with independence comes a share of the U.Ks national dept .
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Blood bought into the "subsidy junkie" argument a long time ago. In fact I think he invented it. :roll:


I know i was just being diplomatic about it :lol: :lol:


I bought into nothing...Unlike some Im a Realist not a romantacist, you heard it hear first, Independance Is never going to happen :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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But why should Unionists let the economic facts ruin the image they have built up of Scotland as a nation of selfish, indulged welfare "mendicants"?The subsidy myth is too politically useful to be simply abandoned. Of course, if they ever do come to terms with the reality that Scotland could survive on its own - and even prosper - it will probably be too late anyway.


Anyone believing that tosh should be institutionalised, the SNP talk p1sh. On one hand the SNP (rather Alex Salmond) say we should leave the Union so as we'll all be better off as a Stand alone Scotland...yet in his next breath he says we'll all be better off when we become part of another union, the EU and become part of its Sh1tty little Eurozone!! the SNP are suffering self delusions brought about by their Big egos, A matter made worse because their single themed brains cannot see that they are going to have less political independance within the EU as a tiny independant state than they will have if they were to stay part of the United Kingdom within the EU (more so now as most want out of the EU).

We'll still need to go cap in hand to England for our Electricity once the Wind stops and the SNP hot air Starts.

The old Saying "Empty Vessels make the most noise" pretty well sums up the SNP, if the SNP would only ask the Public first before it spouts such garbage that the Scots people all want Independance..we dont, 75% percent want no part of it and another 75% want even less to be part of the Eurozone.

Bring it on Alex...a nice simple Yes or NO referendum on Independance..that Will never happen as he knows the the answer will be a big fat "NO"



Bloodnock your rant gives me the impression that you fear they inevitable independence there is nothing to fear. Independence will be more of a political separation rather than a social one.
Scotland is already part of the EU so the only difference will be we will have 15 MEPs instead of 5 representing Scotland’s interests, we would also join EFTA.
Your comments about going cap in hand seem to contradict the experts. They do no question that Scotland would produce enough renewable energy to supply Scotland and have enough left over to export. Their concern was that England would not import our renewable energy but it has been pointed out that England would have to import Scottish renewable energy in order to meet its climate change obligations.
Bloodnock if you think that the percentage of people wanting independence is not growing I think your head must be buried in the sand there is also a growing number of people living in England supporting it. I agree with you that only one question should be on the referendum paper a straight YES or NO but unlike you I think the outcome will be YES . :D


You poor brainwashed people..what guff has the SNP been feeding you up there?
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captain cab wrote:
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Are the SNP still pointing towards those tiger economies such as Ireland as an example of how Scotland would be? :lol:

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No, just pointing south of the border to see how bad it could get. :D


Yeah......it was pretty bad when those Scots were running the show :wink:

Blair was born in Edinburgh, Scotland on 6 May 1953

Brown was born in Glasgow, Scotland on 20 Feb 1951

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If you expect me to defend this pair, you are going to be disappointed. :wink:

Both were elected as leader of the labour party by a membership which was predominately non Scottish.
The first won 3 general elections as leader, the electorate being over 90% non Scottish.
The other was foisted on the country by his party, who also were in the majority English based.

So I guess you get what you vote for CC.

More to the point, if we were to believe the propaganda put out by the unionists, the rest of the UK would be much better off without us.
So, to all our English benefactors out there, I ask this:

Why so generous? Are you really all so well off that you can afford to keep us?

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You poor brainwashed people..what guff has the SNP been feeding you up there?


Brainwashed? Not me. Take a look in the mirror blood. All that English guff wafting across the border has clouded your judgement.
You sound like one of them.


Perhaps you are...................... :wink:

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Blood bought into the "subsidy junkie" argument a long time ago. In fact I think he invented it. :roll:


I know i was just being diplomatic about it :lol: :lol:


I bought into nothing...Unlike some Im a Realist not a romantacist, you heard it hear first, Independance Is never going to happen :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Realist or cynic?

Did someone assault you with a set of bagpipes when you were a child? :lol:

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Are the SNP still pointing towards those tiger economies such as Ireland as an example of how Scotland would be? :lol:

Don't forget the Iceland tiger. :lol: :lol:

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Are the SNP still pointing towards those tiger economies such as Ireland as an example of how Scotland would be? :lol:

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No, Scotland's much better than that.

I mean, the SNP were recently bragging that Alex Salmond won an "international climate change award".

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/News/Release ... 0/24093332

A few days later and he's bragging that Scotland still has 40 years of oil left. :roll:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-s ... s-15519339
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Alex Salmond has always been anti English he stokes up nationalism at every turn.
If Scotland gets its independence it will be swallowed up in Europe. It would be a little poor fish being circled by the big fish of Germany and France and England. Salmond is another Brown ...tax high spend big, and let another leader and the tax payer pay the consequences later, after he is long gone and spending his gold plated pension on haggis and whiskey.

Oh by the way with independence comes a share of the U.Ks national dept .



oh yes ,Scotland’s debt from being part of the Union is running at a estimated £60 billion. According to Secretary of State Michael Moore an independent Scotland would have been £41 billion in the red.He said " total spending in Scotland (including a share of 'UK services' like defence and foreign relations) has been £41 billion higher than the country’s total revenues, including oil and gas revenues."
That's £19 billion of a saving we would have had if we had been independent for the last 30 years . Put it another way, the UK has burdened each and every Scot with additional debt equivalent to £3,800.
So when you take the money and lives that would have been saved on illegal wars and trident i think the dept from being independent would have conciderely lower than the 41 billion .

I do agree that we will have to pay our share of the U.Ks national dept estimated to be 60 billion but i am sure we could bring that down a good bit with our share of the crown estate being divided up .
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Sussex wrote:
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Are the SNP still pointing towards those tiger economies such as Ireland as an example of how Scotland would be? :lol:

Don't forget the Iceland tiger. :lol: :lol:


Which turned out to be a flea-bitten old moggie. :lol:
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BTW, is it just me or is this forum powered by a wind turbine these days :lol:
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Dusty Bin wrote:
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Are the SNP still pointing towards those tiger economies such as Ireland as an example of how Scotland would be? :lol:

Don't forget the Iceland tiger. :lol: :lol:


Which turned out to be a flea-bitten old moggie. :lol:


I used to like bagpuss ffs.

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