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I think i am going to change my initial thread headline

I'm not against Independence per se, but democracy in its present form only benefits those in big business and politicians. Give me a “Government of the people, by the people, for the people” and you have my vote, but more of the same, no thanks.

Until you address the flaws in the democratic system power lies not with its people but with the new gang, you are proposing to vote in.

Oh and Tone, I am not making any of the above up and if anything, you should be on my side.

Tone, without transparency the system fails because the electorate can't have an informed view or hold their politicians to account. This isn't my view. It's a simple fact. What, vote them out after four years to do the same again in another four years and so on and so forth, and this is how we make those elected accountable and democracy works for the people?

A system is a set of processes, which together creates a mechanism that delivers a specific outcome. If you remove certain processes, transparency for one, the system fails to deliver. Why, because there is little or no way to hold your politicians to account, hence, no real democracy.

It's not an accident the system is the way that it is, as politicians and their executive don't want to be held accountable.

And you think the above will all change if we have independence?

Have a wee look:


http://www.scotsman.com/news/politics/s ... _1_1960200

http://www.scotsman.com/news/transport/ ... _1_1960242


Tone, I know how the propaganda machine works and how easy it is to be taken in by it all, but stand back and think about the above before telling me you don't agree with my view. If you can think for yourself, you should be agreeing with every word, and then looking forward to influencing change by challenging those that want your vote.

Hootsman not a good example .We will have to agree to disagree because i do think the SNP are a party of the people, by the people for the people.
I also think your views do apply to the Westminster parties who have not only ruined the Scottish economy but England's as well . Hey i could be wrong and maybe i have bought into it hook line a sinker but surely it can not be any worse than we already have .

So let me get this right, your support for the SNP, and independence is faith/trust/loyalty in the hope that things “cannot be any worse than we already have.”

Guys could you please just have your vote?

Why the delay?

Something to do with the fact, the Scots don't know if they need a sh*t or a haircut.

perhaps it's more to do with salmond being selective about the ground he wants to fight on and the timing....mind you, Scotland would have a presence on the world stage with that guy, its just that the stage would need reinforced and the camera dude would need a wide angled lense

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I honestly believe Salmond, is more than a match for Cameron et al. He is the consummate strategist. The trouble is, there comes a point where you spend more time looking for the right ground to fight on than finding it.

Hootsman not a good example .We will have to agree to disagree because i do think the SNP are a party of the people, by the people for the people.

I also think your views do apply to the Westminster parties who have not only ruined the Scottish economy but England's as well . Hey i could be wrong and maybe i have bought into it hook line a sinker but surely it can not be any worse than we already have .

Cameron is pretty useless at least the guy in the sure style windows advert has a sense of humour, but then milliband looks like the kind of person who would stab his brother in the back for a sweety and the other one, nick, is unelectable.

A country gets the politicians it deserves, our country is proof of it.

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