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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 9:55 am 
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wee eddie wrote:
Now ~~~~ If they could work out a way of turning Rain into Energy. Ayrshire would certainly be able to export something other than "Tatties"!

In a roudabout way they do make electricity from rain. It falls to earth and fills the rivers and resevoirs and in some areas this is used to produce hydro electricity.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 10:16 am 
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As for the oil.......errm I think I got russian gas and oil at the moment......the stuff north of the border is too expensive.....but its a buyers market =D>


Dunno, Salmond has proved to be quite a good snake oil salesman :lol:


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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:22 am 
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But Scotland would have to rejoin the EU, wouldn't it, and new members are expected to join the eurozone, aren't they? And that's even assuming the EU would let it in, with some opinion thinking that France and Spain would veto an application because that would encourage their own separatist movements.


As the residue of the UK would also be a new country, wouldn't that put England+Wales+NI in the same boat?
Considering the anti-Europe nature of the English, the EU might just reject them.
England join the Euro :lol: Don't make me laugh.
Can't see the Spanish doing something which would effectively bar their fishing fleet from half of Europe's waters.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 11:37 am 
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grandad ~ that's actually turning "Gravity" into Energy

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 12, 2011 2:19 pm 
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wee eddie wrote:
grandad ~ that's actually turning "Gravity" into Energy

It needs the rain as well.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 12:22 am 
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gusmac wrote:
As the residue of the UK would also be a new country, wouldn't that put England+Wales+NI in the same boat?


Not so sure about that. The UK will be substantially the same even if Scotland seceded.

It's a bit like some breaking away from Man U and forming a new club. I doubt if the Premier League would boot Man U out if it was substantially the same as what went before.

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Considering the anti-Europe nature of the English, the EU might just reject them.

England join the Euro :lol: Don't make me laugh.


But anti-EU sentiment is growing everywhere. Indeed it might be the SNP's undoing yet.

After all, Salmond changed his mind about the euro when it became obvious it would be unpopular.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 3:10 am 
I think the Euro has proven itself to be exactly what it was designed to be, a complete disaster.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 6:13 am 
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I think the Euro has proven itself to be exactly what it was designed to be, a complete disaster.


The euro zone has better growth and inflation rates than the uk :shock: so if the euro is a complete disaster what do we call wastminster #-o


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 6:43 am 
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Doom wrote:
I think the Euro has proven itself to be exactly what it was designed to be, a complete disaster.


The euro zone has better growth and inflation rates than the uk :shock: so if the euro is a complete disaster what do we call wastminster #-o


That's probably because economically it's dominated by the large countries like Germany and France rather than tiddlers like Greece and Portugal.

And that's why the euro has turned out to be a bit of a disaster. If the German economy is powering on then it needs high interest rates, thus the European Central Bank in Frankfurt will deliver that.

But the smaller countries which aren't doing quite so well have to endure the same high interest rates, which will cripple their economies even further.

A few years ago Alex Salmond was bleating that interest rates set in London were inappropriate for Scotland.

So instead his big idea was to join the euro and have interest rates set in Frankfurt. Image

Wonder why he changed his mind on that one? #-o


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 6:49 am 
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By the way, Stationtone, has the SNP delivered your taxi shangri-la in Dundee yet?

Or is that another non-starter, just like Dougie's medallion system in Edinburgh? :lol:


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 6:51 am 
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Dusty Bin wrote:
Stationtone wrote:
Doom wrote:
I think the Euro has proven itself to be exactly what it was designed to be, a complete disaster.


The euro zone has better growth and inflation rates than the uk :shock: so if the euro is a complete disaster what do we call wastminster #-o


That's probably because economically it's dominated by the large countries like Germany and France rather than tiddlers like Greece and Portugal.

And that's why the euro has turned out to be a bit of a disaster. If the German economy is powering on then it needs high interest rates, thus the European Central Bank in Frankfurt will deliver that.

But the smaller countries which aren't doing quite so well have to endure the same high interest rates, which will cripple their economies even further.

A few years ago Alex Salmond was bleating that interest rates set in London were inappropriate for Scotland.

So instead his big idea was to join the euro and have interest rates set in Frankfurt. Image

Wonder why he changed his mind on that one? #-o



Glad you agree :D


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 5:19 pm 
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If there was an EU referendum in England and Wales, on the issue of staying or going, I very much doubt there would be more than 15% of folks ticking the stay box.

That might change during the lead up to the referendum, but not enough to keep us in.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2011 6:32 pm 
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Dusty Bin wrote:
Stationtone wrote:
Doom wrote:
I think the Euro has proven itself to be exactly what it was designed to be, a complete disaster.


The euro zone has better growth and inflation rates than the uk :shock: so if the euro is a complete disaster what do we call wastminster #-o


That's probably because economically it's dominated by the large countries like Germany and France rather than tiddlers like Greece and Portugal.

And that's why the euro has turned out to be a bit of a disaster. If the German economy is powering on then it needs high interest rates, thus the European Central Bank in Frankfurt will deliver that.

But the smaller countries which aren't doing quite so well have to endure the same high interest rates, which will cripple their economies even further.

A few years ago Alex Salmond was bleating that interest rates set in London were inappropriate for Scotland.

So instead his big idea was to join the euro and have interest rates set in Frankfurt. Image

Wonder why he changed his mind on that one? #-o



This is BoLLOX.

The eurozone has continually operated with interest rates lower than ours.

It is UK Ltd that has had higher rates, higher mortgages and has been ripping us off for years.

This is why the UK is referred to as treasure island.

Here's an example.

Our BoE base interest rates are set at 0.5%.

Yet our credit card rates border on usury. From 12 to a whopping 39%.

And yes, its the poor who are paying the 39%.

So, when credit was readily given at the lower end, people spent their credit. But the usurers soon inflated the rates to the higher end as folks got into difficulty. The more difficulty, the higher the interest penalty.

What this means is that debts build up rather than get paid off. And as more interest is paid from salaries, less real money is spent in the economy on goods and services (taxis) that provide employment. The numbers in work reduce as demand slows. More financial difficulty, the benefits bill increases. Taxes then increase to meet the new benefits burden and lo and behold government is spending beyond its means.

The Tories coming to power (Tories, LibDem Tories and Labour Tories) and sucking more money out of the economy through cuts in jobs and benefits while increasing both direct and stealth taxes sucks even more liquidity out of the economy.

Thus our government is effectively closing our economy down. But this is not unexpected, because its what the Tories always do when they come to power. They deliberately create unemployment, designed to sap the will of the workers to fight for their rights, the instability in the jobs market setting workers against workers rather than demanding rights from government.

Its no accident the politicians have set themselves apart as a political class. After all, who would want to be associated as equals with the very people they are stiffing?

=D>

This is what those who died in the trenches sacrificed their lives for.

Was it worth it?


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Jasbar wrote:
This is BoLLOX.


Problem is that your bollox completely misses the point of my bollox :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 1:03 am 
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Dusty Bin wrote:
Jasbar wrote:
This is BoLLOX.


Problem is that your bollox completely misses the point of my bollox :lol:


#-o


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