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Sorry gus still dont get you ? Be patient with me, do you think there is more work now ? or do you think there was more work in 1948 ? Or am i missing the point ? What has the number of ph got to do with this ? Are you saying the more ph that go on the more work there is ? Id even credit someone like you with a little bit more intelligence than that,so do explain thanks

yes by about 200 years

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C. Oakes


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Sorry mate youve lost me ,what is 200 years ?

Me too, but be patient with him because he does try hard but has a spelling and meaning problem, I think he's backing you up tbh.

You have to be patient here in november,only joking its straight on a rank and straight off again ! Hardly have time to read the daily sport.

Alright for some then ! I manage about 2 or 3 rank jobs a month !!!!

The joys of deregulation and here we are Deregulated not deristricted

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lack of modern legislation is the iceberg sinking the titanic of the transport sector

The point is for 63 years you have not grown your business and the opposition has.
Prebooked work is part of the taxi trade everywhere, except Blackpool, it seems.
Is there more work now than 1948? Yes, without a doubt. Even in a once popular seaside resort.
Most of the new work is prebooked, mostly by phone.
In 1948 hardly anyone had a telephone, a car or a TV set. A taxi was, to most, a luxury they couldn't afford very often.
When they needed a cab, they hailed one in the street or walked to a rank.
In the 21st Century, cabs are more affordable to the masses and they all have phones. They phone for a cab nowadays, usually from home or some venue.
They only hail cabs in the street when they can't get one on the phone, or there's a rank nearby that doesn't have a queue of people waiting.
If there is less work for the hack trade now than in 1948, it is because PH have taken most or all of the increase.
PH have grown from zero to several hundred, while the local hack trade have concentrated on keeping their plate values.
You have failed to compete and PH have filled the void.

BTW, there must be some work left over for the hack trade, otherwise you wouldn't have a plate value.

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Are you saying you have no regulations to comply with?

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Hackney trade can't grow it's business model, the only growth that would be in out favour is more rank space, we aren't there to furnish the blue chips and local contracts those go to PH because they 1 undercut to a stupid uncompetitve rate and 2 will supposedly be at the door waiting for the customer in abstract locations that a Hack simply couldn't viably compete for, we are the convenience cab, you are the arrangement cab, see it's two different things in reality.

btw, you must also understand this Gus, how would you feel if I decided I wanted your house but didn't want to pay anything for it, that is how someone whose invested in the job feels right now, there's no suggestion nor has there ever been any sort of compensation given, all hacks who've been de-reg'd have been done so in nothing short of mafia tactics fashion, and another way of seeing things (sorry MrT I know this one is senstive to you) it's like Hillsborough, too many wish to take part in too small a space and the crush happens, with the football it was squashed people, in the cab trade it's squeezing existing people out for the sake of others who think they might like to have a go, as todays cab is a money pit it's not a good investment and I wish some would wake up and realise a clutch and DMF for the average car is now £1000+ same with a turbo, as both are made of chocolate these days it's hard to imagine why anyone would want to risk it, I do it because after 25 years it's a bad habit, but I used to be able to get a Cavalier clutch supplied and fitted for £50 when I first started, derv was £1.50 a gallon and did 40+ mpg, today it's £6.40 and does a mid 30 if you are lucky, what you actually want to happen is to open the doors to the toxic debt merchants, they will come along and drive until the bills arrive then simply leave it to everyone else to pick up the tab.

I personally if I was starting out today wouldn't be doing the job after about 3 weeks, that is how swamped it is and that's before you consider the trash customers you get these days at night time and weekends, there's no back up from the law until the event is a distant memory and then if they act how can they arrest someone you couldn't reasonably restrain a week later, the grid locked streets at peak times and the begrudging way that some people eventually pay up, who in their right mind would really want that for at best £6 ph ?

More rank space doesn't grow your business. It just gives you more places to sit around doing nothing.
The hack trade won't grow it's business base. Not can't, just won't.
That's because it is obsessed with protecting plate values, to the exclusion of anything else.
This hangs round their necks like an albatross and it stops them evolving to meet the competition.

“It is not the strongest of the species that survives, nor the most intelligent, but the one most responsive to change”
― Charles Darwin

PH don't just do "blue chip" and contract work. They take all sorts of people to all kinds of places at all times of the day and night. Work which could and should be done by hacks.
It's not two different things, it's two sides of the same coin.
PH are the competition, like it or not, and if you don't compete with them, they will wipe the floor with you.

Now here's an original idea.
Put the value in the driver instead of the plate. Make sure only quality people get a badge.
Apply the same standards across both sides of the trade.
Forget the plate value, because when there is no work left, there won't be one.

Up here the only difference between a taxi driver and a PH driver is the vehicle he drives.
Both sit the same knowledge test, which is not easy - it takes the average native 6 months to pass it.
It must be a real bitch for anyone to pass if their first language isn't English.
No online tests allowed here. They have to sit the test in person in Aberdeen.

Now that's not going to be popular with most barons because, hack or PH, one cab or many, they all depend on a plentiful supply of cheap labour.

Now I know I'm going to regret this, I should just ignore the obvious bait.
I'm not the arrangement cab BTW, I'm the owner/ driver of a Taxi (or hack as you call them). I do know I've told you that before.
But don't take my word for it. Skippy has met me, and so has toots. Ask them.

The rest of your post, including yet another flawed analagy, I am going to ignore.

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But as long as the plates have a premium, and lads queue up to rent their motors, they couldn't give a f***.

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It would appear not.

But did you expect otherwise?

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Explain please, I'm all ears how a cab designed to sit at a designated rank and be flagged down can expand?

@ Gus, I'll tell you this mate, I'm as anti baron as you are, but I don't see why their practices should cost me, it only needs a simple limit per head put on it to kill them off, and making the test so hard most will fail isn't going to wash forever, it's a sheet job full stop and once jobs start appearing again folks will leave, then the moaning starts about not enough drivers, and how will places like ours get drivers if hardly anyone can get a license, that arguement is as bad as you thinking the council limiting car license numbers.

PH malpractice has caused this, they will not stop putting cars on even though they don't have enough work for them, they price jobs at stupid rates, try a 60 mile job from my place to Heathrow for £50 for example and they fail to instruct their drivers what their position actually is, favouring sneding out warning messages when enforcement officers are spotted, what happens in Aberdeen isn't going to either work nor be implemented across the country in every district, you aren't like Manchester where you have about 9 other LO's licensing up cars that you just know aren't going to be waiting for the phone to ring in Rochdale, they are going to be down near the Arndale having it away under the noses of the official Manchester licensed hackney.

I could, but I wont.

But it's not hard to fathom out why your trade is dying in your manor.

Enough to drive you to drink.

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