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 Post subject: Re: Dear Double D
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:05 pm 
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Are you on drugs Gus, Blackpool has one driver, the driver pays a rent to him, what is so hard in that, do you think Blackpool should give the cab to his driver for nothing and just have the full costs to himself, how about you let the rooms in your house to strangers for £0 pw, is that still a good idea or are you awake in the real world now, an OD isn't mommy and daddy to the poor little driver y'know, it's a s/e business, and in s/e business you have to pay to take part, I'm beginning to think you are a communist myself.


Yes, but the rentals are way above the market rate.

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@ Eddie, agree with most you say except the de-reg bit, here the barons are PH and even now when there is no work they are still attempting to license 50 cars at a time, they have an endless supply of foreign drivers who they are mugging off with magnificent stories who end up on the conveyor belt of three weeks here and then replaced by more unsuspecting immigrants and the cycle continues, they're even housing them at cost as well, it's almost like a package holiday in a way, only it's more like a package nightmare for the poor sod whose given up what he had back home to come here and be exploited by liars


So why aren't all these immigrant drivers impacting on the HC trade as well?


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 Post subject: Re: Dear Double D
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:11 pm 
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Doom wrote:
1 OD with one driver = 2 men both making a living as the job was intended


Which neatly demonstrates your master/slave mentality.

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Baron with 100 cars is one lazy man who doesn't want to do the work, but has lots of others doing it for him in a master slave manner, he doesn't think it was quiet if John is short this week I'll cut him a break, he also encourages drivers that were never going to be drivers to become drivers promising them with lies, hth.


Thus in my experience no difference from the HC trade, which is always trying to take on more drivers when restricted, ditto when unrestricted but putting on as many vehicles as they can find drivers for.

The only difference between the two baron mentalities is that some in the PH trade seem better at it.

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And you need to get out a bit more mate, your anger is so much I had to turn the brightness down on my monitor to be able to read what you posted, have a drink, you'll benefit from it and who knows it might even be the making of you comrade. :wink:


But it's Doomsday Tuesday today, so a 'parental advisory' sticker is recommended for later tonight :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Dear Double D
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:14 pm 
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Gus gus you really are cause for concern mate,your even starting to make your chum dusty look intelligent and we dont want that do we.Your points dont really add up,would you be happy if there was a cap on ph for instance ? Or do you just want more taxis full stop ? Forget if it affects what people earn lets have more.Ive been keeping a eye out for you on jeremy kyle i can feel it coming,all those thoughts of barons and leeches are getting to you.Ill wait with anticipation for your next rant whilst i iron my money(its been raining today,cant get it under the floorboards !)

For you dusty the question begs do you know what the rent is for hc days/nights or 24/7 ...Didnt think so, but ill give you a clue its less than it was 10 years ago x


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 Post subject: Re: Dear Double D
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:23 pm 
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For you dusty the question begs do you know what the rent is for hc days/nights or 24/7 ...Didnt think so, but ill give you a clue its less than it was 10 years ago x


Not precisely, but I know plates were £45k a few years ago, so I'd guess £30-35k at the moment, so it's hardly surprising that rentals have softened, but that's not really the point.


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 Post subject: Re: Dear Double D
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:32 pm 
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I thought I already had tbh when I explained one driver working for one OD was just paying his share of the costs.


Just paying his share of the costs? My arse.
Paying the cost of buying the plate that he won't own.

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1 OD with one driver = 2 men both making a living as the job was intended


I cab 1 driver is the way it was intended. Unless you expected a horse to work 24/7 back in th 19th century.

You are part of the problem, not the solution.

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1 Baron with 100 cars is one lazy man who doesn't want to do the work, but has lots of others doing it for him in a master slave manner, he doesn't think it was quiet if John is short this week I'll cut him a break, he also encourages drivers that were never going to be drivers to become drivers promising them with lies, hth.


The same holds true for 100 barons with 1 cab each.

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And you need to get out a bit more mate, your anger is so much I had to turn the brightness down on my monitor to be able to read what you posted, have a drink, you'll benefit from it and who knows it might even be the making of you comrade. :wink:


Restriction, state control and denial of the free market. You'd make a far better communist than me. Comrade [-X

I'll expect your usual weekly drunken rant tonight.
You should try sobriety. On second thoughts, you make no more sense sober.

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 Post subject: Re: Dear Double D
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:33 pm 
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So as i said you know nothing about here, which is slightly more than i gave you credit for.Its worth what yor willing to pay rodney !


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 Post subject: Re: Dear Double D
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:39 pm 
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blackpool wrote:
For you dusty the question begs do you know what the rent is for hc days/nights or 24/7 ...Didnt think so, but ill give you a clue its less than it was 10 years ago x


Not precisely, but I know plates were £45k a few years ago, so I'd guess £30-35k at the moment, so it's hardly surprising that rentals have softened, but that's not really the point.



Which means you are neither a cab owner nor driver because if you were anything other than an alter ego you'd know what was what, so next lie please.

@ Gus

Wrong again, stop blaming us for what PH has done to the trade, if the HC trade is restricted there can only be so many people involved at any one time so how can you say we flood things? taking out of the cornhole again aren't you

Dusty, no need for the pegi12 warning mate, you'll be tucked up with Humphrey the Hippo water bottle by the time I get back here tonight, unlike yourself I'm still a man and I do things men do, like participate in competitive sports and generally mix with folks both known and unknown to me, it's called being social and makes for a better society, unlike you who would just love to have a world of yes men at your feet, if the bed is wet later, don't blame Humphrey until you check him for holes, it might be you who has wee'd the bed again because you were too scared of the dark to make it to the bathroom, don't worry though, mummy will sort it out in the morning for her special little soldier. :wink:


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 Post subject: Re: Dear Double D
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:49 pm 
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blackpool wrote:
Your points dont really add up,


Oh, they do. You just don't like what they add up to.

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would you be happy if there was a cap on ph for instance ? Or do you just want more taxis full stop ?


I don't give a crap how many taxis or PH get licensed. This is the bit you seem unable to get your head round.
Restrict the number of drivers and it won't matter how many cabs there are, because there will be nobody to drive them. Empty taxis/PH cars don't make money.

You don't like that because there's no avenue to exploit left for you. And you'll lose your stake money.

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Forget if it affects what people earn lets have more.Ive been keeping a eye out for you on jeremy kyle i can feel it coming,all those thoughts of barons and leeches are getting to you.Ill wait with anticipation for your next rant whilst i iron my money(its been raining today,cant get it under the floorboards !)

The usual retort, and the usual personal abuse.
You are never going to like change because any change is going to cost you and your baron mates. Cost you the dough you spent trying to screw everyone else over.

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 Post subject: Re: Dear Double D
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 6:32 pm 
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By the way. Horse drawn Hackney Carriages.

Frequently they were owned and run by Capitalists who had large Stables of over worked horses (just read the beginning of Black Beauty) and drivers who worked long hours for next to nothing.

"plus ça change"!

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 Post subject: Re: Dear Double D
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 6:52 pm 
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Ok Ok Gus youve got me sussed ,i bow to you...Let me just try and explain.When i first started driving i drove for someone to see if i liked it,then i thought i did, so id invest in a taxi.Did you get that bit" INVEST".So thats the way its been through good and bad?Now i could have carried on renting as a lot of my collegues have,no pressure,no insurance,repairs,ect ect but i didnt.Thing is if they deregulate (and this is the bit youll find difficult to grasp) its the job in general that will suffer.Stop worrying about what my plate is worth, cause as you say its nothing.Start thinking outside your own little dreamworld gussy boy.Let me tell you if it aint broken,dont try and f@ck with it ! One last little thing please explain who im screwing over,because id love to know.


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 Post subject: Re: Dear Double D
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:29 pm 
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Ok Ok Gus youve got me sussed ,i bow to you...Let me just try and explain.

Come on then, let's hear it.

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When i first started driving i drove for someone to see if i liked it,then i thought i did, so id invest in a taxi.

Fed up being a slave, you borrowed money and bought up someone's plate. The taxi was incidental, anyone could have bought that.
It's the licence you took a punt on.

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Did you get that bit" INVEST".

Yes I get it, gambled on the market remaining restricted.
You've had a good run at it so far.

Most investments usually carry this type of warning BTW:
Please remember the value of your investment can go down as well as up and you may get back less than you invested.

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Now i could have carried on renting as a lot of my collegues have,no pressure,no insurance,repairs,ect ect but i didnt.

Instead you too a risk on being able to finance your gambling with income from your former collegues.

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Thing is if they deregulate (and this is the bit youll find difficult to grasp) its the job in general that will suffer.Stop worrying about what my plate is worth, cause as you say its nothing.Start thinking outside your own little dreamworld gussy boy.Let me tell you if it aint broken,dont try and f@ck with it !

450 PH and it's not broken?
The job will suffer because your market is saturated with drivers (699 HC drivers as of 18 months ago), the result of all those owners needing a plentiful supply.
You and the others will lose your stake in the taxi poker game and have to do all the work yourselves, in competition with the former slaves.
Not forgetting the 450 PH who came into the game while your ilk was busy trying not to lose their shirts.
Sorry you prefer "investment" don't you? It's all the same thing.

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 Post subject: Re: Dear Double D
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:31 pm 
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gusmac wrote:
blackpool wrote:
Your points dont really add up,


Oh, they do. You just don't like what they add up to.

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would you be happy if there was a cap on ph for instance ? Or do you just want more taxis full stop ?


I don't give a crap how many taxis or PH get licensed. This is the bit you seem unable to get your head round.
Restrict the number of drivers and it won't matter how many cabs there are, because there will be nobody to drive them. Empty taxis/PH cars don't make money.

You don't like that because there's no avenue to exploit left for you. And you'll lose your stake money.

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Forget if it affects what people earn lets have more.Ive been keeping a eye out for you on jeremy kyle i can feel it coming,all those thoughts of barons and leeches are getting to you.Ill wait with anticipation for your next rant whilst i iron my money(its been raining today,cant get it under the floorboards !)

The usual retort, and the usual personal abuse.
You are never going to like change because any change is going to cost you and your baron mates. Cost you the dough you spent trying to screw everyone else over.

Some things are fact and some things are fiction..... what is fact.... is that through European law a council can not place unnecessary restrictions with the view of stopping a person from working or attaining a licence.... (driver's licence) if they do they will be prosecuted... and have to pay compensation...... everybody knows this but you....

another little piece of information..... today I was in one of the private hire offices their fees were... 100 pound for Radio..... £80 for car.... and £100 for insurance...per week

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 Post subject: Re: Dear Double D
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:41 pm 
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Some things are fact and some things are fiction..... what is fact.... is that through European law a council can not place unnecessary restrictions with the view of stopping a person from working or attaining a licence.... (driver's licence) if they do they will be prosecuted... and have to pay compensation...... everybody knows this but you....

Better tell that to the London trade then Trev.

I wondered when the baron-in-chief was going to wade in.

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 Post subject: Re: Dear Double D
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100 pound for Radio..... £80 for car.... and £100 for insurance...per week


That would be considered cheap here.

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 Post subject: Re: Dear Double D
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:43 pm 
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gusmac wrote:
MR T wrote:
Some things are fact and some things are fiction..... what is fact.... is that through European law a council can not place unnecessary restrictions with the view of stopping a person from working or attaining a licence.... (driver's licence) if they do they will be prosecuted... and have to pay compensation...... everybody knows this but you....

Better tell that to the London trade then Trev.

I wondered when the baron-in-chief was going to wade in.

the London trade are already trying to remove even more restrictions or haven't you noticed.... and I hope you do not intend to stay long in this trade working for pennies

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