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PostPosted: Tue Dec 27, 2011 8:03 pm 
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Bill do all these PDAs work from the mobile networks?? and if so what are the costs of sending jobs to cars.
Now that free call diversion is being offered by BT and Vodafone could these costs if any be reduced or now be free


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 10:12 am 
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Leaving aside several “are but’s”, yes PDA’s are not much more than clever mobiles and they can be used on virtually any network. Their cost is usually made up from two things. (A) The cost of the device and (B) the cost of the airtime used.

We’ve not quite reached the point yet where they give you a free PDA when you fill up at Asda but it’s getting there. Depending on what you want, new or second-hand, you can pay anything from £50 to £450 for a PDA. Most companies choose to buy a contract (normally 24 months) and this gets you the PDA and the airtime bundled together for about £3/week. At the end of the two years, the PDA’s yours (they never ask for them back) so you can then either just have an airtime only deal or put the device on Ebay, get some cash and start a new contract with a more up to date device. Buying off Ebay you could end up paying say £70 for a reasonable device. Then get an airtime deal that gives something like 1 gig of data or 12 months (whichever comes first) for about £20 a year. So over two years that works out at just £1/week.

Your going to have to work it out yourself from this what it costs to send each job out but the average maybe would be about 0.5p (or 0.6p if we throw in some text back).

Will it ever be free? Not as long as we have BT and Vodafone shareholders all wanting profits. :evil:

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 7:01 pm 
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Thanks for that Bill, I have just taken a 2 year contract out with BT for land-line, mobile, and BB, with totally free call diversion, land line to my mobile for £53 a month I get 1000 mins of land-line and 1000 mins and unlimited text and free bb on the mobile and unlimited home BB
The original package was for 500 mins on phone and mobile but I told them I had a leaflet from Voda offering the 1000 mins so they upped it for free :D possibly to get the business


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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 7:07 pm 
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skippy41 wrote:
Thanks for that Bill, I have just taken a 2 year contract out with BT for land-line, mobile, and BB, with totally free call diversion, land line to my mobile for £53 a month I get 1000 mins of land-line and 1000 mins and unlimited text and free bb on the mobile and unlimited home BB
The original package was for 500 mins on phone and mobile but I told them I had a leaflet from Voda offering the 1000 mins so they upped it for free :D possibly to get the business



Good job you don't pay for incoming calls, (like the US, for instance) or the number of calls you get would bankrupt you. :lol:

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 28, 2011 7:13 pm 
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jimbo wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
Thanks for that Bill, I have just taken a 2 year contract out with BT for land-line, mobile, and BB, with totally free call diversion, land line to my mobile for £53 a month I get 1000 mins of land-line and 1000 mins and unlimited text and free bb on the mobile and unlimited home BB
The original package was for 500 mins on phone and mobile but I told them I had a leaflet from Voda offering the 1000 mins so they upped it for free :D possibly to get the business



Good job you don't pay for incoming calls, (like the US, for instance) or the number of calls you get would bankrupt you. :lol:


I was paying 5P for every call recived on the mobile if they called the landline number, I have had the above contract for 2 months now and have saved around £130, all those 5Ps soon mount up


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 12:00 am 
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skippy41 wrote:
I was paying 5P for every call recived on the mobile if they called the landline number, I have had the above contract for 2 months now and have saved around £130, all those 5Ps soon mount up

43 calls a day then.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 3:26 am 
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grandad wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
I was paying 5P for every call recived on the mobile if they called the landline number, I have had the above contract for 2 months now and have saved around £130, all those 5Ps soon mount up

43 calls a day then.


No thats with not having to pay the old voda mobile contract of £25 a month, on top, Opps just realised never put that in the first post


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 5:56 am 
Converted from many years on BT business paying £60-120 month to o2 Business landline (same number), 2000 mins free for Landline to any o2 including call diverts. £20 month.


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grandad wrote:
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I was paying 5P for every call recived on the mobile if they called the landline number, I have had the above contract for 2 months now and have saved around £130, all those 5Ps soon mount up

43 calls a day then.

42 were call centres trying to get him to switch his phone supplier, and the other was his missus wondering if he was coming home this week

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 7:38 am 
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Ah can see what you mean now. Your talking about diverting customer calls to a mobile, which is a completely different kettle of fish to sending jobs to a PDA via data. The same financial arguments still hold true though in that there are no free meals and your totally free service is in reality costing you £53 per month. That’s just like the PDA contract for £10 per month that includes a free PDA or my free house where the Halifax charges me only for doing the paperwork.

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 29, 2011 8:45 pm 
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bill_datamaster wrote:
Then get an airtime deal that gives something like 1 gig of data or 12 months (whichever comes first) for about £20 a year.

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Where do you get this kind of deal? Sounds very good. I've been checking data usage and it looks like approx 1.1mb over 24 hours continuous use so even at its busiest, a pda working nonstop probably wouldn't exceed 500mb over the year

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I’m not too sure Daz but I think it’s T Mobile. They were certainly offering 500meg/six months for £15 last year and quite a few of our companies went onto that without any issues. Your measurements of data usage seem roughly in line for what we’d expect so at that rate you’ll always hit the time limit before you exceed the usage.

Your best bet is to give Sam Steve or Slick a call because they tend to be more involved with the PDA’s than me so they’re more likely to know where the deals are.

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We've tried T-mobile but sadly it's not a good signal in our area.

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We've tried T-mobile but sadly it's not a good signal in our area.



We are on Tmobile with the Auriga set up, round here it seems OK no loss of connection in fact it's pretty solid.


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