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You wouldnt want the answer

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
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you don't have one to give you mean

No, I genuinely think people entering the trade should invest.....I think emissions regulations are the way forward....because i want my family to grow up in a world which isnt overheating and they dont get cancer through diesel fumes with their dirty engines.....some applicants should maybe even drive taxis.

And if a council is accepting an application....without a vehicle.....then i think their stupid.

CC

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

you don't actually believe all that green crap do you.
if you drove an electric taxi the environment would be the least of your worries.


what you think applicants should purchase a £30k vehicle and then apply to the like of cec for a plate and hope for the best ffs

and its not the council its the cgsa

mans arrogance is the problem when it comes to green issues

mans time and impact on the world is meaningless

ffs we'll be extinct within a few thousand years like 90% of all the animals that have ever lived.

and the environment will change a million times before the planet finally dies,and all without our tiny input.

in the scale of things we just ain't that important

CC, believes he is

well he is a journo you know
a national non the less

To quote George Carlin, "the planet is fine, it's us that's fu*ked."

Perhaps, but if you think he's 'abused' the system then don't you think it's a bit rich that he's trying to 'abuse' it again and in the process coming on here and playing the victim?

I'd have a bit more respect for him if he just said he was using the system for his own benefit instead of trying to make out that he's being hard done by. Originally he was. Then he got a plate. Great. Then he sold it. Well who'd blame him? Then he got another two. And sold them. Oh dear. Now he's in with a chance for another plate ahead of everyone else in Edinburgh who wants one, and he thinks we're going to be sympathetic to his sob stories?

I think I'm more deserving of an Edinbugh plate than Ali



So what's been achieved in Edinburgh apart from a relatively small number of people getting plates, many of which have since been sold?

In fact it's arguable that the derestriction cause has been put back, because it's become so messy that the council will bend over backwards to keep the quota because if it's blown open there'll be a helluva lot of people crying foul.

I mean, why aren't the Fastblacks rabble huffing and puffing about Ali's plates, because they're obviously hugely miffed about it? The answer's simple - if they make an issue out of it then it could bring the whole thing down, so best keep quiet. And clearly Ali, Skull and Jasbar won't use Ali's plate profits to make the derestriction case - although it would certainly help - because it would make them look a bit ridiculous. Which is why they're so defensive about it on here.




Yes, Ali's trousered £120k or so, while others will be repaying a £40k loan as a consequence. Difficult enough at the best of times, never mind in the current climate, never mind if the market's derestricted.

Upset? Moi?

I've been 'upset' about some profiteering at the expense of working drivers for about 15 years now Ali, and if I hadn't been upset by that then TDO would never have existed for a start.

So do you really think I'm going to be pandering to your sense of victimhood now, Ali?

Kind of reminds me of that chap Larry from Dundee who represented the PH firm there that applied for the 70 HC plates and used to post on the old taxi forums (and here as well as I recall it). They were making the case for derestriction, but when they won their court case and got the plates Larry let the cat out of the bag and said that they didn't really want everyone to get plates at all. He got his marching orders for that.

Not saying you're not genuine about derestriction, but in view of what's happened since you got a plate I don't think anyone really takes your derestriction case seriously, do you?

You may be genuine, but I doubt if any independent observer would take you seriously if you were making a case for derestriction.

So now you're fecking others?

And there's been lots of people fecked by the system who'll never get anything back, yet you think you should have you fourth plate before them?





Well then why are you playing the victim in relation to you latest application?

And why is Skull trying to potray you as Saint Alastair?

What's a cartel, Gary? It's an agreement to fix the market to the benefit of the participants, normally in the private sector.

Bring in an arm of government and it's called a public cartel, or similar. Look it up.

You can't slag the system and those benefitting from it but when one of your cronies does the same suddenly he's a victim of the same thing.

You're in denial Gaz

Well I don't treat him as the victim, I treat him as someone who is working a flawed system like many others.

I just wish the flawed system ended.

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That's akin to those that ask what did OFT achieve.

Many folks are in the OFT failed miserably gang, and in some ways it did. But there are many 1000s of licensed cab drivers who now have their own cabs solely down to the OFT Study.

So my point is that Edinburgh might not have created that many new licensed cab owners, but every little helps.

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i fail to see how a system can be abused
after all its not my system and the intention of the system is to allow the plates that aren't allowed to be sold under the governing act,to be sold .
and thats what i did,so how is that abuse.
i think what you mean is its a terrible system that makes everyone look bad,and to that i will agree.

as far as playing the victim
ive never came on here to do so.
but the applicant is the victim,and no i don't think im more deserving of a plate before anyone else,but i applied and should be treated fairly and within the law.
i doubt anyone agrees that cec have ever treated any applicant fairly,and thats Bourne out by the courts decisions over the years.
the council when summing up there data even when they find demand go as far to say were just going to ignore that bit.ffs.

the £40k that others decided to pay for a plate appears to be my fault in your eyes.
im sorry dusty its not my fault, its not my decision its theirs,they decided to buy rather than apply.
even when offered free help they decide to go with the flow.
most who ive sold to agree that the systems is fecked and the council are a shower,but they cant be bothered making a stand and fighting because the only real way to do that is apply,sadly not enough are willing to devote the time needed so they take the adopted option and buy in.

in truth, i know more than most about the Scottish system and the shennanigins of cec.its not rocket science,which isnt as hard as you might think either btw
so im certainly not on here for help
another truth is that if i was truly working the system with the intent of making shedloads ,then i would be onto a good thing and the sensible thing to do would be to keep quiet about it,rather than post on a public forum.
and yet ive always shared info as soon as it became available.
so why you feel that im on here for help or sympathy is beyond me.
the moneys a consequence of the situation,not the reason for doing it.
truth be told when i applied the last time if a hundered guys who wanted their plates enough had applied at the same time as me,and i said i was applying,then they would have all got their plates in aug 2009 and would have saved themselves a lot of hassle and a lot of time.
but they didn't they waited until after it was done before committing,and thats the real problem.
most people only make a move when its safe to do so,if they had moved on force as one at the right time then they would have crushed the council.

im not on here to promote derestriction
i support it.. yes
but you seem to view me from the standpoint that im sort sort of corrupt public figure.
please remember that im simply an applicant,and as such i have no public duty to inform the public of anything in my private life.
and yet i do,why is that.

so dusty can you tell me why you think im playing the victim
i know somits upset you in fact its been apparent for some time that you've become somewhat disillusioned about the whole thing