Taxi Driver Online

Why is your life obsessed with what the Council do ? You're so sad pal.

i i know somits upset you in fact its been apparent for some time that you've become somewhat disillusioned about the whole thing

You're the one making it up as you go along, Dusy.



Which dictionary did you take that definition from?

As I said, it's a public cartel.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cartel

i fail to see how a system can be abused
after all its not my system and the intention of the system is to allow the plates that aren't allowed to be sold under the governing act,to be sold .
and thats what i did,so how is that abuse.
i think what you mean is its a terrible system that makes everyone look bad,and to that i will agree.

as far as playing the victim
ive never came on here to do so.
but the applicant is the victim,and no i don't think im more deserving of a plate before anyone else,but i applied and should be treated fairly and within the law.
i doubt anyone agrees that cec have ever treated any applicant fairly,and thats Bourne out by the courts decisions over the years.
the council when summing up there data even when they find demand go as far to say were just going to ignore that bit.ffs.

the £40k that others decided to pay for a plate appears to be my fault in your eyes.
im sorry dusty its not my fault, its not my decision its theirs,they decided to buy rather than apply.
even when offered free help they decide to go with the flow.
most who ive sold to agree that the systems is fecked and the council are a shower,but they cant be bothered making a stand and fighting because the only real way to do that is apply,sadly not enough are willing to devote the time needed so they take the adopted option and buy in.

in truth, i know more than most about the Scottish system and the shennanigins of cec.its not rocket science,which isnt as hard as you might think either btw
so im certainly not on here for help
another truth is that if i was truly working the system with the intent of making shedloads ,then i would be onto a good thing and the sensible thing to do would be to keep quiet about it,rather than post on a public forum.
and yet ive always shared info as soon as it became available.
so why you feel that im on here for help or sympathy is beyond me.
the moneys a consequence of the situation,not the reason for doing it.
truth be told when i applied the last time if a hundered guys who wanted their plates enough had applied at the same time as me,and i said i was applying,then they would have all got their plates in aug 2009 and would have saved themselves a lot of hassle and a lot of time.
but they didn't they waited until after it was done before committing,and thats the real problem.
most people only make a move when its safe to do so,if they had moved on force as one at the right time then they would have crushed the council.

im not on here to promote derestriction
i support it.. yes
but you seem to view me from the standpoint that im sort sort of corrupt public figure.
please remember that im simply an applicant,and as such i have no public duty to inform the public of anything in my private life.
and yet i do,why is that.

so dusty can you tell me why you think im playing the victim
i know somits upset you in fact its been apparent for some time that you've become somewhat disillusioned about the whole thing

did you notice that to

you should cut me lose

lets just set the record straight gary , jim and myself dont meet in some secret location to plot blowing up council hq
perhaps we should but we dont

in fact we may share the same ideals when it comes to taxi licensing but we don't have any regular contact,in fact i haven't seen gary for years,all i do is drop the money at the secret place under the plant pot and the scam continues

Here's an idea to bring about de-restriction once and for all.

A group of individuals get together with the intention of making a single licence plate application. They go to a Human Rights Lawyer and pay for a detailed written submission to be put before the Council RC, on their behalf. The council of course refuses the licence application on the pretense they considered the Human Rights argument along with section 10.3 of the act, and special circumstances.

You then rewrite the submission into a writ of appeal and place it before a Sheriff, with a taxi driver (the applicant) presenting the case as his.

The Sheriff would be forced to consider the council's refusal under Human Rights from the outset, and if, the ruling went in the appellants favour, the council would then have to appeal against the decision all the way to the Court of Session. The applicant would simply be holding the coats, waiting for the outcome.

The fundamental principles on which the case is based would not change throughout the process. You would simply be repeating the same argument over and over.

It would be another Salteri et al situation for the council.

There seems to be a lack of political will to confront the issue, the council executive to back it, and the public to demand more taxis. The drivers within the trade could tip the balance but either lack the knowledge to understand the argument, are too frightened to rock the boat or simply do not care. That's not to say that, de-restriction is faraway, in today's political climate anything can happen, especially after years of in fighting. It's not unusual for politicians to allow things to calm down and then seize the initiative and make it look like it was always on the table and their idea in the first place. Maybe they are simply looking for Ph, to run the trade into the ground so the problem, for the most part, goes away. I suspect it's a combination of all the above, and for that reason the trade is finished as an industry you would want to buy into or work in. As I said before, it's now a low-paid industry where you work for scumbag politicians picking up the dregs of society, and I can't see it changing anytime soon.

Come on Dusty, what do you think?

I think many of them think they're genuinely doing the trade a favour, and don't differentiate between the different elements in the trade. They conflate drivers with vehicles. The vast majority of councillors will never get anywhere near understanding how it works.

It also makes other aspects of regulation easier - the Sword of Damocles argument. And in general it makes it easier for councillors and officials to deal with the trade. It makes for an easy life basically. Except of course when an akward squad appears, as in Edinburgh, but generally any dissent is limited, for whatever reason.

And once it's all up and running the plate market creates its own momentum, because once people have bought in councillors don't want to see them loosing an asset. It's a variation on the easy option argument again.

Basically most of them are clueless and spineless.

Gary, you’ve already been told, ( By people that DO know the law), that the HR argument has nothing to do with the Council issuing Plates... Ha ha... luvin’ this ...