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 Post subject: Re: Any Views?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:16 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
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Do any any of you have any views on what it is like out there and if it can be an enjoyable trade :?:

Love the job.

Dislike many people in it, but like a few more.

The longer you work, the more you will earn.

Will you become rich, no f***ing chance. :sad:


Thanks, no doubt it is the same as any job, always people you come across that you will dislike, but enjoying the job is a great help and helps compensate for the not so good bits.


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 Post subject: Re: Any Views?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:22 pm 
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You did right but which firm are you going to work for?


Nothing decided for definite but possibly one of the big 2, do you have any views regarding who to avoid or who you would recommend, are the bigger companies better or are the smaller companies better to work for?



All depends which one of the big two you are thinking about joining Tim? Me personally I'd go with Ace-Abc, they do the job right and Raj who runs it with his sisters runs a tight ship. They use good motors and no expense is spared when it comes to repairing and maintaining them, if yours is off the road there's always a pool car to fall back on so your not losing money.

They are always advertising on the local radio and in the local press. The dispatch system they use is spot on, it's got GPS, GPRS, callback, credit card facilities, all the above enhance your chances of earning some decent money.

They do their best to give you a back run if your dropping off in a area where there's a job waiting to be picked up.

If your thinking about joining the other big one with the numbers as their name, it's up to you mate, they run cheap they have a decent amount of work but, your mileage will be sky high and earnings will be low. They can run upto an hour late, they have waiting times on jobs of 20 minutes before you can no show it, one lad I was talking to over Christmas didn't do a job in 3 hours because they were running late on jobs and he couldn't no show every job until the 20 minute window had elapsed.


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 Post subject: Re: Any Views?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:33 pm 
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Nidge2 wrote:

All depends which one of the big two you are thinking about joining Tim? Me personally I'd go with Ace-Abc, they do the job right and Raj who runs it with his sisters runs a tight ship. They use good motors and no expense is spared when it comes to repairing and maintaining them, if yours is off the road there's always a pool car to fall back on so your not losing money.

They are always advertising on the local radio and in the local press. The dispatch system they use is spot on, it's got GPS, GPRS, callback, credit card facilities, all the above enhance your chances of earning some decent money.

They do their best to give you a back run if your dropping off in a area where there's a job waiting to be picked up.

If your thinking about joining the other big one with the numbers as their name, it's up to you mate, they run cheap they have a decent amount of work but, your mileage will be sky high and earnings will be low. They can run upto an hour late, they have waiting times on jobs of 20 minutes before you can no show it, one lad I was talking to over Christmas didn't do a job in 3 hours because they were running late on jobs and he couldn't no show every job until the 20 minute window had elapsed.


Nidge, many thanks for the info, that has helped point me in the right direction, the above is much appreciated. :)


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 Post subject: Re: Any Views?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 8:35 pm 
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Tim wrote:
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All depends which one of the big two you are thinking about joining Tim? Me personally I'd go with Ace-Abc, they do the job right and Raj who runs it with his sisters runs a tight ship. They use good motors and no expense is spared when it comes to repairing and maintaining them, if yours is off the road there's always a pool car to fall back on so your not losing money.

They are always advertising on the local radio and in the local press. The dispatch system they use is spot on, it's got GPS, GPRS, callback, credit card facilities, all the above enhance your chances of earning some decent money.

They do their best to give you a back run if your dropping off in a area where there's a job waiting to be picked up.

If your thinking about joining the other big one with the numbers as their name, it's up to you mate, they run cheap they have a decent amount of work but, your mileage will be sky high and earnings will be low. They can run upto an hour late, they have waiting times on jobs of 20 minutes before you can no show it, one lad I was talking to over Christmas didn't do a job in 3 hours because they were running late on jobs and he couldn't no show every job until the 20 minute window had elapsed.


Nidge, many thanks for the info, that has helped point me in the right direction, the above is much appreciated. :)



No problem mate anytime.


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 Post subject: Re: Any Views?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 9:57 pm 
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Mansfield do licence vehicles that are to old,found this on web site?


Report of Licensing Officer

To

LICENSING PANEL

On

30 March, 2010





LOCAL GOVERNMENT (MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS)ACT 1976

TOWN POLICE CLAUSES ACT 1847



DETERMINATION OF AN APPLICATION

FOR A PRIVATE HIRE VEHICLE LICENCE






1. SUMMARY



This report invites members to consider an application from Mr Stephen William Gee of 128 Chatsworth Drive Mansfield Nottinghamshire NG18 4QX for a Private Hire Vehicle, Registration No. S111 GEE.



2. RECOMMENDATIONS



That the application be determined as presented.



3. BACKGROUND



3.1 When a new application is made to licence a Private Hire Vehicle, Officers must satisfy themselves that the vehicle meets the current specification for such a vehicle (a copy of the specification is attached at Appendix 1) The purpose of this specification is to ensure that the vehicle is both safe and comfortable for members of the public to travel in. All Councils throughout the country have such specifications and all are adopted to the local circumstances of their district.



3.2 The vehicle referred to in the application, a Mercedes Elegance is the top of the range model which is used for chauffeur driven executive hire purposes, and is not usually available for hire to the general public.



3.3 Mr Gee had previously licensed this vehicle with Mansfield District Council for a period of one year from March 2009. The expiry of that licence was the 28 February 2010.



3.4 The Council has no upper age limit for a Private Hire Vehicle, therefore a vehicle may remain licensed providing it continues to pass the required mechanical test before the expiry date of the current licence.



3.5 The vehicle was not presented for testing prior to the expiry of the current licence. The consequence of this is that the application dated the 3rd March 2010 becomes an original application and Mansfield District Council’s specifications for Private Hire Vehicles requires the vehicle to be no more than four years old at the date of the original application. This vehicle was first registered on 24 December 2004 making it over five years old, therefore it does not meet our current specifications.



3.6 The vehicle has now been presented for testing at the Hermitage Lane Depot, which is part of the application process. Apart from not meeting the age requirement the vehicle is mechanically sound and the bodywork is in excellent condition. The mechanic reported that the vehicle was well presented and well maintained.







4. OPTIONS AVAILABLE



4.1 Grant the application.



4.2 Reject the application.





5. ALIGNMENT TO COUNCIL PRIORITIES



The Licensing of Hackney Carriage/Private Hire Vehicles provides the Council with the mechanism to secure public safety.





6. IMPLICATIONS RELATING TO RELEVANT LEGISLATION



6.1 Human Rights Act 1998 and Article 1, Protocol 1 regarding Protection of Property – every person is entitled to the peaceful enjoyment of his possessions. In this situation a Licence is a possession. Deprivation may only be ordered in the public interest and provided that response is proportionate.



6.2 Under the provisions of Section 48 (7) of the Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) act 1976, Any person aggrieved by the refusal of a District Council to grant a vehicle licence under this section, or any conditions specified in such a licence, may appeal to a magistrates’ court, such appeal to be lodged within twenty one days of serving of the notification of that decision upon him.



6.3 Crime and Disorder Act 1998, section 17 – imposes a duty on the Council to exercise its function, having regard to the likely effect and the need to do all it reasonably can do to prevent crime and disorder in its area.







7. RISK ASSESSMENT OF RECOMMENDATIONS AND OPTIONS



The safety of the travelling public in Hackney Carriages and Private Hire Vehicles licensed by the Council is a prime concern of the Council. Refusal to grant the licence could result in an appeal and/or judicial review.





8. CONSULTATION

Legal and Member Services





8. BACKGROUND PAPERS



Application form











Report Author
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Sharon Smith

Designation
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Licensing Technical Support Officer

Telephone
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01623 463163

E-mail
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ssmith@mansfield.gov.uk






LOCAL GOVERNMENT (MISCELLANEOUS PROVISIONS)ACT 1976
TOWN POLICE CLAUSES ACT 1847


The Panel was convened to consider an application for the granting of a Private Hire Vehicle Licence from Mr Stephen Gee of Mansfield.

Mrs D.Mossop, Licensing Officer, attended to present the Authority's case, and the applicant, Mr Gee , attended to present his case.

The opportunity was given for the Panel to ask questions of both the Licensing Officer and the driver concerned.

After a final submission, all parties left the room to enable the Panel to adjourn to determine the application.

On their return, the Chairman announced that the Panel had agreed that on consideration of all the evidence, taking into account the Licensing Officer's report, the Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1976, the Human Rights Act 1998 and case law, the application for the granting of a Private Hire Vehicle Licence from Mr S.Gee be approved.

RESOLVED - That on consideration of all the evidence, taking into account the Licensing Officer's report, the Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act, 1976, the Human Rights Act, 1998 and case law, the application for a Private Hire Vehicle Licence from Mr Stephen Gee be granted.


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 Post subject: Re: Any Views?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:13 pm 
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mancityfan wrote:
Mansfield do licence vehicles that are to old,found this on web site?


Report of Licensing Officer

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LICENSING PANEL

On

30 March, 2010







Thanks for that info, the author of that report was the same person that yesterday told me the age limit was 4 years, which I suppose is the case unless you wish to appeal.

The case in question was regarding a top of the range Mercedes, my 6 year old Avensis may not have the same appeal, but its good to see it is possible if you are prepared to fight, but may be easier to spend a couple of grand and trade up.


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 Post subject: Re: Any Views?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:43 pm 
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an appeal wont cost a couple of grand,get nidge to represent you,hes cheap iam told?


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 Post subject: Re: Any Views?
PostPosted: Fri Jan 27, 2012 10:48 pm 
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as i see it they have set a presedence,they will get laughed out of court if it gets that far,you can`t have one rule for the poor and another for the rich.(or can you)?


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 Post subject: Re: Any Views?
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mancityfan wrote:
as i see it they have set a presedence,they will get laughed out of court if it gets that far,you can`t have one rule for the poor and another for the rich.(or can you)?

I would hate to have to fight it under the Human Rights Act, how many cases do you hear that you agree with that are fought under that ruling, this ones probably the first one I have agreed with.


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 Post subject: Re: Any Views?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 1:40 am 
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3.3 Mr Gee had previously licensed this vehicle with Mansfield District Council for a period of one year from March 2009. The expiry of that licence was the 28 February 2010.



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6.1 Human Rights Act 1998 and Article 1, Protocol 1 regarding Protection of Property – every person is entitled to the peaceful enjoyment of his possessions. In this situation a Licence is a possession. Deprivation may only be ordered in the public interest and provided that response is proportionate.


Slight contradiction there? :-k


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 Post subject: Re: Any Views?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 7:23 am 
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mancityfan wrote:
an appeal wont cost a couple of grand,get nidge to represent you,hes cheap iam told?



I gave up with Mansfield Council when me and Andri Cameleri nearly came to blows when I exposed him for what he was. Mansfield Council were secretly funding the night buses when all of the time he was in denial, we did get some free CCTV out of the deal though.


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 Post subject: Re: Any Views?
PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 9:02 am 
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Andri cameleri,is that some kind of fish?


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 Post subject: Re: Any Views?
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mancityfan wrote:
Andri cameleri,is that some kind of fish?



He's got a face like one. He resigned from the Council because of some miss dealings. He's know acting as a lowly lowly Shirebrook Round Table Chairman.


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 Post subject: Re: Any Views?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:16 pm 
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Tim wrote:
Nidge2 wrote:

You did right but which firm are you going to work for?


Nothing decided for definite but possibly one of the big 2, do you have any views regarding who to avoid or who you would recommend, are the bigger companies better or are the smaller companies better to work for?


You might be better going to work for an Ashfield company,I remember nidge slagging of the one he has recommend,if the Mansfield ones were any good he would be working for them,better of asking him which is the best one in Ashfield.


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 Post subject: Re: Any Views?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 2:19 pm 
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After looking at the league tables the rates of pay are better in Ashfield


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