Taxi Driver Online

UK cab trade debate and advice
It is currently Sun May 03, 2026 1:48 am

All times are UTC [ DST ]




Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 61 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Wirral to limit
PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:34 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:25 pm
Posts: 37494
Location: Wayneistan
toots wrote:

Had the 'somebody' done proper research before investing £30k the £2 million wouldn't have happened


harsh :shock:

_________________
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wirral to limit
PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:35 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:22 pm
Posts: 14152
Location: Wirral
captain cab wrote:
toots wrote:

Had the 'somebody' done proper research before investing £30k the £2 million wouldn't have happened


harsh :shock:


Yes but true :D

_________________
Note to self: Just because it pops into my head does NOT mean it should come out of my mouth!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wirral to limit
PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:39 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:25 pm
Posts: 37494
Location: Wayneistan
toots wrote:

Yes but true :D


I disagree, and I am surprised by your comments

CC

_________________
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wirral to limit
PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:44 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:22 pm
Posts: 14152
Location: Wirral
captain cab wrote:
toots wrote:

Yes but true :D


I disagree, and I am surprised by your comments

CC


The reality of the situation is that someone wishing to enter the market was prepared to invest £30k to do so but did not take the time to research the said market, at best that is naive. I point this out and you say I'm harsh, well maybe I am but serious money should be treated with serious respect. Why invest £30k into a market that is about to be flooded unless you know you can get the work required to realise the investment?

_________________
Note to self: Just because it pops into my head does NOT mean it should come out of my mouth!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wirral to limit
PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 2:53 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:25 pm
Posts: 37494
Location: Wayneistan
toots wrote:

The reality of the situation is that someone wishing to enter the market was prepared to invest £30k to do so but did not take the time to research the said market, at best that is naive. I point this out and you say I'm harsh, well maybe I am but serious money should be treated with serious respect. Why invest £30k into a market that is about to be flooded unless you know you can get the work required to realise the investment?



That's a really free market view of the situation......which is fine.....lets open the market up and follow your philosophy......to its bitter end..... which I would lead you to the term "bittereinders".....and being of merseyside origin....with the spion kop at Anfield, you should know presumably well?

The reality is debt, however well, or unintened.

CC

_________________
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wirral to limit
PostPosted: Sat Jan 28, 2012 8:55 am 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 03, 2003 7:30 pm
Posts: 57356
Location: 1066 Country
captain cab wrote:
how many plates were handed in?

And those £30,000 motors suddenly became worthless? :?

_________________
IDFIMH


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wirral to limit
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:40 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:22 pm
Posts: 14152
Location: Wirral
Sussex wrote:
captain cab wrote:
how many plates were handed in?

And those £30,000 motors suddenly became worthless? :?


Nah they become a noose around the drivers neck until they got shut, presumably at the cost of their credit rating

_________________
Note to self: Just because it pops into my head does NOT mean it should come out of my mouth!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wirral to limit
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:44 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 03, 2003 7:30 pm
Posts: 57356
Location: 1066 Country
toots wrote:
Nah they become a noose around the drivers neck until they got shut, presumably at the cost of their credit rating

I was of the opinion those motor kept their value well. Clearly not in the Wirral.

_________________
IDFIMH


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wirral to limit
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:49 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:25 pm
Posts: 37494
Location: Wayneistan
Sussex wrote:
toots wrote:
Nah they become a noose around the drivers neck until they got shut, presumably at the cost of their credit rating

I was of the opinion those motor kept their value well. Clearly not in the Wirral.



not at auction.

CC

_________________
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wirral to limit
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:50 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:22 pm
Posts: 14152
Location: Wirral
Sussex wrote:
toots wrote:
Nah they become a noose around the drivers neck until they got shut, presumably at the cost of their credit rating

I was of the opinion those motor kept their value well. Clearly not in the Wirral.


I never said they didn't keep their value but their value would never be realised if there isn't work for the vehicle

_________________
Note to self: Just because it pops into my head does NOT mean it should come out of my mouth!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wirral to limit
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:55 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 03, 2003 7:30 pm
Posts: 57356
Location: 1066 Country
toots wrote:
I never said they didn't keep their value but their value would never be realised if there isn't work for the vehicle

Which does beg the question as to why the thicko's bought them in the first place. :?

_________________
IDFIMH


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wirral to limit
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:56 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Tue Oct 21, 2003 7:25 pm
Posts: 37494
Location: Wayneistan
Sussex wrote:
toots wrote:

Which does beg the question as to why the thicko's bought them in the first place. :?



I think that was toots point.....it was me that was disagreeing.

CC

_________________
Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wirral to limit
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 6:58 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:22 pm
Posts: 14152
Location: Wirral
captain cab wrote:
toots wrote:

The reality of the situation is that someone wishing to enter the market was prepared to invest £30k to do so but did not take the time to research the said market, at best that is naive. I point this out and you say I'm harsh, well maybe I am but serious money should be treated with serious respect. Why invest £30k into a market that is about to be flooded unless you know you can get the work required to realise the investment?



That's a really free market view of the situation......which is fine.....lets open the market up and follow your philosophy......to its bitter end..... which I would lead you to the term "bittereinders".....and being of merseyside origin....with the spion kop at Anfield, you should know presumably well?

The reality is debt, however well, or unintened.

CC


Is this what 'scouse' sounds like to you :lol: :lol:

http://youtu.be/tHGlf9aQnKY

_________________
Note to self: Just because it pops into my head does NOT mean it should come out of my mouth!!


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wirral to limit
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 9:42 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Wed Sep 03, 2003 3:20 pm
Posts: 3272
toots wrote:
That's not strictly true that they just issued plates numerically. Plate 400 was originally issued years ago and what the council tend to do here is ask the driver what number they would like from plates that they already have 'in stock'. There was initially 400 vehicle plates issued when the council first derestricted but the numbers fell quite quickly when drivers realised they weren't going to make a living. I don't understand why they restricted again, the numbers haven't change much for years it seemed to me that the market did indeed find it's own level and contrary to the Halcrow report many think that limit was too high.


OK, so the figures for the last few years as provided in the article and in the DfT stats are:

2012 - 286
2011 - 282
2009 - 298
2007 - 292
2005 - 214


In 2005 this appeared in TaxiTalk magazine - I think the author was Derek Cummins, who was/is assistant editor and was/is a trade rep on the Wirral:

"My area Wirral has delimited and the fleet has grown from 126 to 220 in little over 2 ½ years."

By the same token, someone posted this on a taxi forum at around the same time:

"It is three years this month since Wirral BC took the decision to deregulate. In that three years, the number of plates has risen from 126 to 216."

Now Toots you're not trying to say that numbers increased from 126 to 400 and then almost halved to 200 in just over 2 years? :lol:

At the very least you'd have thought Mr Cummins would have mentioned that fact, which would probably be unique in the history of taxi regulation.

To be honest I think you and Brummie are talking out of your backsides.

If anyone is interested in the true numbers, or the true explanation for the figure of 400, then I suggest they contact the licensing section at Wirral MBC.

licensing@wirral.gov.uk


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Wirral to limit
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2012 10:43 pm 
Offline
User avatar

Joined: Sat Jul 26, 2008 3:22 pm
Posts: 14152
Location: Wirral
Dusty Bin wrote:
toots wrote:
That's not strictly true that they just issued plates numerically. Plate 400 was originally issued years ago and what the council tend to do here is ask the driver what number they would like from plates that they already have 'in stock'. There was initially 400 vehicle plates issued when the council first derestricted but the numbers fell quite quickly when drivers realised they weren't going to make a living. I don't understand why they restricted again, the numbers haven't change much for years it seemed to me that the market did indeed find it's own level and contrary to the Halcrow report many think that limit was too high.


OK, so the figures for the last few years as provided in the article and in the DfT stats are:

2012 - 286
2011 - 282
2009 - 298
2007 - 292
2005 - 214


In 2005 this appeared in TaxiTalk magazine - I think the author was Derek Cummins, who was/is assistant editor and was/is a trade rep on the Wirral:

"My area Wirral has delimited and the fleet has grown from 126 to 220 in little over 2 ½ years."

By the same token, someone posted this on a taxi forum at around the same time:

"It is three years this month since Wirral BC took the decision to deregulate. In that three years, the number of plates has risen from 126 to 216."

Now Toots you're not trying to say that numbers increased from 126 to 400 and then almost halved to 200 in just over 2 years? :lol:

At the very least you'd have thought Mr Cummins would have mentioned that fact, which would probably be unique in the history of taxi regulation.

To be honest I think you and Brummie are talking out of your backsides.

If anyone is interested in the true numbers, or the true explanation for the figure of 400, then I suggest they contact the licensing section at Wirral MBC.

licensing@wirral.gov.uk


The figure of the 400 was given to me a while back from a hack driver and is not something I fully researched :oops: It is said that when the council derestricted in 2002 the plates rose sharply to the 400 as mentioned. Either way one shouldn't invest a large sum of money without first doing a business plan/research to ensure it is, as near as possible, able to be realised. Another point is one might wonder why they re regulated numbers if it is clear from the figures provided show little has changed after initial increase and the market seems to have found it's level.

It also shows that the council did just issue plates numerically one after the other and did not do as they say and recycle old numbers, which is what they do now.

Having such a delightful ass, even if I say so myself, who cares if I talk out of it on a forum :wink:

_________________
Note to self: Just because it pops into my head does NOT mean it should come out of my mouth!!


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 61 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1, 2, 3, 4, 5  Next

All times are UTC [ DST ]


Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 578 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
cron
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group