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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 1:59 am 
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Ann Tayo wrote:
The officer in this case was Mr Vaughan.

Has no one been informed that Syed Shaheed was acquitted on appeal to the Crown Court?

He was represented by Miss Ann Tayo who ensured My Shaheed's livelihood was restored and the fines slapped on him were returned to sender!

It took the Crown Court only a few minutes to return a not guilty verdict.


On what grounds was his appeal successful?

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:33 am 
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Ann Tayo wrote:
The officer in this case was Mr Vaughan.

Has no one been informed that Syed Shaheed was acquitted on appeal to the Crown Court?

He was represented by Miss Ann Tayo who ensured My Shaheed's livelihood was restored and the fines slapped on him were returned to sender!

It took the Crown Court only a few minutes to return a not guilty verdict.


On what grounds was his appeal successful?



He played the Race Card I bet.


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:35 pm 
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I find it rather strange that having blown her own trumpet Ann Tayo hasn't been back on here, I wonder if it was a cheap shot at free advertising

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PostPosted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:48 pm 
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Toots, you wonder? Of course it is!

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:24 am 
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you can see why the BNP gets votes

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 2:32 am 
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Chris the Fish wrote:
Toots, you wonder? Of course it is!


I was being polite :D

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 10:29 am 
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In response to the question concerning the basis upon which the appeal was successful, my submissions were that you cannot found a conviction in law on the basis of a mere impression.

The prosecution bring the case and the prosecution must prove the case to a high level of assuredness. It's called the burden and standard of proof. You must be satisfied so that you are sure before convicting any individual, it used to be referred to as 'beyond reasonable doubt'. A man is innocent till proven guilty and the aim of the standard of proof is a safeguard to protect and prevent any person from being wrongly convicted.

This was a Crown Court Appeal which is by way of a rehearing. The height, depth and extent of the prosecution case was that Mrs Doney wasn't categorically refused but gave evidence to the effect that she formed the impression she was being refused.

Justice was done at the end of the day but it was unfortunate that Mr Shaheed was put through so much to clear his name.


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:06 am 
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Ann Tayo wrote:
In response to the question concerning the basis upon which the appeal was successful, my submissions were that you cannot found a conviction in law on the basis of a mere impression.

The prosecution bring the case and the prosecution must prove the case to a high level of assuredness. It's called the burden and standard of proof. You must be satisfied so that you are sure before convicting any individual, it used to be referred to as 'beyond reasonable doubt'. A man is innocent till proven guilty and the aim of the standard of proof is a safeguard to protect and prevent any person from being wrongly convicted.

This was a Crown Court Appeal which is by way of a rehearing. The height, depth and extent of the prosecution case was that Mrs Doney wasn't categorically refused but gave evidence to the effect that she formed the impression she was being refused.

Justice was done at the end of the day but it was unfortunate that Mr Shaheed was put through so much to clear his name.



He was guilty of cherry picking, he got caught in the act. Any decent Crown Court Judge would have seen through him. There's a penalty for refusing to drive, he received that penalty. The Judge must have been reading his weekly edition of the Nuts Magazine that day in court.

We have drivers like him who do the same every weekend, if the fare isn't good enough for them they'll send it back to the next driver or they'll say to the punter, "I'm booked".


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:16 am 
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Mrs Doney wasn't categorically refused


So long as the driver just ignores the customers request then they won't be categorically refusing them. The taxi trade is built on trust and reliability and this trust and reliability is being ruined by these 'cherrypickers'. Whilst I agree with the idea of a fair and just system it annoys me when people play with words to get people off, it's wrong. How do you know that he did not categorically refuse this lady because he clearly didn't take her home

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 11:39 am 
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Ann Tayo wrote:
Justice was done at the end of the day but it was unfortunate that Mr Shaheed was put through so much to clear his name.

Can we assume that you will be defending him the next time as well? Because as sure as eggs are eggs he will do the same again, Oh but you think he did nothing wrong.

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wannabeeahack wrote:
you can see why the BNP gets votes

But not many.

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He was guilty of cherry picking,

That's not what the court said.

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PostPosted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:09 pm 
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toots wrote:
So long as the driver just ignores the customers request then they won't be categorically refusing them.

He didn't ignore her, he said it's better or quicker to walk.

Now that could be viewed by many of us in the trade to mean 'f*** off and leave me alone', but the court couldn't be certain enough to convict.

That's the law.

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toots wrote:
So long as the driver just ignores the customers request then they won't be categorically refusing them.

He didn't ignore her, he said it's better or quicker to walk.

Now that could be viewed by many of us in the trade to mean 'f*** off and leave me alone', but the court couldn't be certain enough to convict.

That's the law.


"After explaining to Shaheed where her address was, he twice said to her: “I think you should walk.”

Imo but clearly not in the opinion of the court, saying it once is a suggestion repeating it is a refusal. Why did she feel the need to have to explain where her address was?

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PostPosted: Sun Feb 19, 2012 2:35 pm 
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Can we assume that you will be defending him the next time as well? Because as sure as eggs are eggs he will do the same again, Oh but you think he did nothing wrong.



She did her job...................and very very well if I may say so!

It is easy to criticise the situation/verdict, and basically done because we have more inside information than the solicitor - having said that she would do for me. For once a solicitor who has actually given it some thought...............and not just taken the fee =D>


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saying it once is a suggestion repeating it is a refusal.



I do not think that the above is true! On many occasions I have said/told a punter that it is better to walk to a given destination! by not doing so I could be seen to be ripping off someone for a journey that was basically around the corner ish...so to speak. The way that our City on a Friday and Saturday night is cordoned off would mean a drive of over a mile and a half to get to a point of say 600 metres. The other side of the coin is that a potential passenger has been more than grateful for that advice because of not knowing the lay out of the City.

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