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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 6:19 pm 
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Jasbar mis management and greed is less likley in countries of sa à population similar to Scotland. Id rather be run within à small country with à small population than à country with 60 million. 2 countries come to mind, Norway and Denmark !!! Are you saying they are mis managed greedy, give me an example if you do. Jasbar its my right as it is yours but 5 million as opposed to 60 million is à no brainer.

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In the new "free" Scotland, will foreigners be allowed to vote?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 7:38 pm 
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In the new "free" Scotland, will foreigners be allowed to vote?


Yes If they are on the electoral roll.

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Unionism at it's best?

http://news.stv.tv/scotland/north/29815 ... -birthday/

Seems the fascists don't like the SNP

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:04 pm 
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Jasbar mis management and greed is less likley in countries of sa à population similar to Scotland. Id rather be run within à small country with à small population than à country with 60 million. 2 countries come to mind, Norway and Denmark !!! Are you saying they are mis managed greedy, give me an example if you do. Jasbar its my right as it is yours but 5 million as opposed to 60 million is à no brainer.


You've never been to Africa then? :roll:

Or Central America?

or the middle east (oil rich)?

Go on, admit it. In the absence of instruction from der leader and his henchmen, you're just making it up aren't you?

Anyway, I'm not saying I'm against a properly independent Scotland. That's not what the current debate is about. Neither am I saying that if Scotland did truly go it alone, it couldn't stand up for itself and prosper. That's not the current debate either.

What IS the current debate is that Salmond wants to enhance his own position by taking sovereignty from Westminster and giving it to Brussels.

And you're just trotting loyally in behind and swallowing it.

BTW All this tosh about corruption. Scotland is already corrupt. There's no freedom here. We have the most vocal controlling cop force in the world, our politicians run the joint like it was their own cabal, more intrusive video cameras than anywhere else in the civilised world, a legal aid system designed to tuck people up in jail or penury rather than deliver real justice and we have no say in the way our society is framed, an elected dictatorship. No real consultation, just corrupt manipulation of the process to justify policy.

You doubt this, then I cite trams, fag bans, alcohol pricing, Bridge building and cash squandered on transport projects like guided busways, greenways and uneconomic bus services.

Scotland is already a banana republic. Salmond's plan will just add the custard.

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And how is Megrahi doing?


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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:06 pm 
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Jasbar wrote:
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Jasbar mis management and greed is less likley in countries of sa à population similar to Scotland. Id rather be run within à small country with à small population than à country with 60 million. 2 countries come to mind, Norway and Denmark !!! Are you saying they are mis managed greedy, give me an example if you do. Jasbar its my right as it is yours but 5 million as opposed to 60 million is à no brainer.


You've never been to Africa then? :roll:


What has Africa got to do with it?

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 9:28 pm 
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Mind you, if your looking for fascist control freakery, you don't have to go that far.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/227514.html

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 20, 2012 10:02 pm 
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Jasbar wrote:
Private Reggie wrote:
Jasbar mis management and greed is less likley in countries of sa à population similar to Scotland. Id rather be run within à small country with à small population than à country with 60 million. 2 countries come to mind, Norway and Denmark !!! Are you saying they are mis managed greedy, give me an example if you do. Jasbar its my right as it is yours but 5 million as opposed to 60 million is à no brainer.


You've never been to Africa then? :roll:

Or Central America?

or the middle east (oil rich)?

Go on, admit it. In the absence of instruction from der leader and his henchmen, you're just making it up aren't you?

Anyway, I'm not saying I'm against a properly independent Scotland. That's not what the current debate is about. Neither am I saying that if Scotland did truly go it alone, it couldn't stand up for itself and prosper. That's not the current debate either.

What IS the current debate is that Salmond wants to enhance his own position by taking sovereignty from Westminster and giving it to Brussels.

And you're just trotting loyally in behind and swallowing it.

BTW All this tosh about corruption. Scotland is already corrupt. There's no freedom here. We have the most vocal controlling cop force in the world, our politicians run the joint like it was their own cabal, more intrusive video cameras than anywhere else in the civilised world, a legal aid system designed to tuck people up in jail or penury rather than deliver real justice and we have no say in the way our society is framed, an elected dictatorship. No real consultation, just corrupt manipulation of the process to justify policy.

You doubt this, then I cite trams, fag bans, alcohol pricing, Bridge building and cash squandered on transport projects like guided busways, greenways and uneconomic bus services.

Scotland is already a banana republic. Salmond's plan will just add the custard.

=D>

And how is Megrahi doing?

On this debate you are clutching at straws Jasbar :roll:

The Political power Scotland will hold within Europe IF a future Scottish Government goes down that road and hey it might be a centre right Scottish government that evolves from the YES vote i believe will happen, Scotland will sit very highly within Europe what with its energy resources, quote 25% of all Europes energy needs can be generated within Scotland.

Thats Fact not Hypothetical, you didn't watch the video did you, you just presume as you always do, i do however feel you are turning towards the YES vote, go on admit it, 5 million over 60 million is a no brainer isnt it, there are many guys like you in Scotland Jasbar, Watchers i wil call them, so making mis management and greed even more unlikley in a modern independent Scotland.

Oh and BTW Megrahi is dying the guilty man that he was, just not in a Scottish Jail :D

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 12:50 pm 
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gusmac wrote:
Mind you, if your looking for fascist control freakery, you don't have to go that far.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/227514.html


Oh good. GCHQ in overload.

Well, for starters, I loathe this government and what its done to the country. I deplore our soldiers dying in foreign countries to prop up a corrupt capitalist system. I wouldn't fight to defend this crock of shecht ever, and I would do anything to prevent any member of my family being forced to sacrifice their life.

I deplore the Monarchy which is out of date, has no place in an egalitarian society and which is used by the establishment to prop up their privilege. I would sweep it away. I also don't recognise the right of a Monarch to hold position of power over me and I deplore the honours system, which has nothing to do with common decency and fairness.

I loathe the police state we have become and that Human rights does not exist in this country. Video cameras and storing private communications are just two examples of how far we've allowed the state fascist control over us.

I wouldn't spit on any politician even if they were on fire. I deplore that they are corrupted by the system and uphold it in their own narrow self interest.

I have scant regard for the control institutions of this country and only have to look around to see how far it has sunk in the mire of greed of the establishment. I despair that any lives were lost in the Wars to allow this pile of shecht to prevail.

Now, the bar stewards know where I am. I look forward to them filling our jails with people like me. At least there will be a reduction in unemployment to build the many new jails required to house all those sick fed up with the way people in our nation are abused.

Although, giving the incompetent's record, wouldn't the jails be built by Poles?


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 3:22 pm 
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gusmac wrote:
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Im as Scottish as any other Scot...thats the kind of below the belt remark I would expect from SNP types who take the blinkered view that if your not for independence your simply not Scottish.



Your words, not mine:
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And lastly I can just upsticks and move a mile south into the Eck free zone called England, I have as many relatives there as I have in Scotland because we're borderers first and foremost...


So being Scots is of secondary importance to you? Or is it third, behind British?
That certainly does not make you "as Scottish as any other Scot", far from it.
Most Scots would consider themselves Scottish first and foremost, whether they are unionists, nationalists or undecided.

Your seem to regard being Scottish as a mere accident of geography.
If the border were a couple of miles farther north, you'd be English and no doubt much happier for it.





Cant help where I was born..blame My Scottish Parents...


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gusmac wrote:
bloodnock wrote:

Im as Scottish as any other Scot...thats the kind of below the belt remark I would expect from SNP types who take the blinkered view that if your not for independence your simply not Scottish.



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And lastly I can just upsticks and move a mile south into the Eck free zone called England, I have as many relatives there as I have in Scotland because we're borderers first and foremost...


So being Scots is of secondary importance to you? Or is it third, behind British?
That certainly does not make you "as Scottish as any other Scot", far from it.
Most Scots would consider themselves Scottish first and foremost, whether they are unionists, nationalists or undecided.

Your seem to regard being Scottish as a mere accident of geography.
If the border were a couple of miles farther north, you'd be English and no doubt much happier for it.





You lot are Clowns,....your Nasty Parties biggest Pro Independant Name..Sean Connery doesnt even live in the place, you going tell me next he's not Scottish!!

And yes....Its Secondary, Feeding and Housing my Family comes way before a Shortbread dream of Independance and Im sure that goes for the mass majority of all right thinking Scots.

Sniff Sniff...is that Fear I smell in Camp Desperate, HQ of Independence Limited..very limited. :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:29 pm 
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Jasbar wrote:
gusmac wrote:
Mind you, if your looking for fascist control freakery, you don't have to go that far.
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/227514.html


Oh good. GCHQ in overload.

Well, for starters, I loathe this government and what its done to the country. I deplore our soldiers dying in foreign countries to prop up a corrupt capitalist system. I wouldn't fight to defend this crock of shecht ever, and I would do anything to prevent any member of my family being forced to sacrifice their life.

I deplore the Monarchy which is out of date, has no place in an egalitarian society and which is used by the establishment to prop up their privilege. I would sweep it away. I also don't recognise the right of a Monarch to hold position of power over me and I deplore the honours system, which has nothing to do with common decency and fairness.

I loathe the police state we have become and that Human rights does not exist in this country. Video cameras and storing private communications are just two examples of how far we've allowed the state fascist control over us.

I wouldn't spit on any politician even if they were on fire. I deplore that they are corrupted by the system and uphold it in their own narrow self interest.

I have scant regard for the control institutions of this country and only have to look around to see how far it has sunk in the mire of greed of the establishment. I despair that any lives were lost in the Wars to allow this pile of shecht to prevail.

Now, the bar stewards know where I am. I look forward to them filling our jails with people like me. At least there will be a reduction in unemployment to build the many new jails required to house all those sick fed up with the way people in our nation are abused.

Although, giving the incompetent's record, wouldn't the jails be built by Poles?


#-o


=D> =D> =D> =D>

We may end up sharing a cell :lol:

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:31 pm 
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Could we play chess during our "holiday"?

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:49 pm 
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bloodnock wrote:
gusmac wrote:
bloodnock wrote:

Im as Scottish as any other Scot...thats the kind of below the belt remark I would expect from SNP types who take the blinkered view that if your not for independence your simply not Scottish.



Your words, not mine:
bloodnock wrote:
And lastly I can just upsticks and move a mile south into the Eck free zone called England, I have as many relatives there as I have in Scotland because we're borderers first and foremost...


So being Scots is of secondary importance to you? Or is it third, behind British?
That certainly does not make you "as Scottish as any other Scot", far from it.
Most Scots would consider themselves Scottish first and foremost, whether they are unionists, nationalists or undecided.

Your seem to regard being Scottish as a mere accident of geography.
If the border were a couple of miles farther north, you'd be English and no doubt much happier for it.





You lot are Clowns,....your Nasty Parties biggest Pro Independant Name..Sean Connery doesnt even live in the place, you going tell me next he's not Scottish!!

And yes....Its Secondary, Feeding and Housing my Family comes way before a Shortbread dream of Independance and Im sure that goes for the mass majority of all right thinking Scots.

Sniff Sniff...is that Fear I smell in Camp Desperate, HQ of Independence Limited..very limited. :lol:


I wouldn't say he's not Scottish, any more than I said you weren't.
Seems to me, you are the one who is uncomfortable with it.

And the only fear is eminating from the unionist camp.
Fear of change and fear of the unknown.
They have no real defence for this unequal union.
In it's place they peddlle fear and lies.
They suppress the truth and, ably assisted by a biased media, they tell us we are a poor and deluded nation, incapable of looking after ourselves and in need of the benevolence of our neighbours.
Nothing could be further from the truth.

Jasbar is right about where this UK of yours is heading, and that's something you should be worried about.

We will have our independence.
If not this time, then the next or the next.
We will not just fade quietly into the night.

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 21, 2012 5:51 pm 
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Jasbar wrote:
Could we play chess during our "holiday"?

:lol:


Nae bother.
I hope you don't snore :lol:

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