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Yes, and the tanker drivers give a toss about me working sub-minimum wage most of the time.

Of course they don't, all they're bothered about is their own inflated wage packets.

All they're doing is showing that your working class solidarity pitch is nonsense.

No, it's about basic fairness, thus it's hardly surprising you don't understand it

Don't really know whether to laugh or cry reading some of the stuff on here.

For a start, I doubt if tanker driving is really any more dangerous than when we go to the forecourts to fill up, although if there's figures to prove otherwise then I'll be quite happily proved wrong.

But I suspect it's a bit like the myth of firefighting being a dangerous job, when the reality is that you and me probably have more chance of dying in a road accident than a fireman has on duty.

Yes, the tanker drivers are really bothered when people on a fraction of their earnings are having their conditions undermined. Not.

Instead they'd be quite happy to sacrifice those further down the food chain to maintain their own elevated position, and of course there's always plenty such minions willing to make those sacrifices, presumably on the deluded basis that the concern of the tanker drivers is reciprocated. It isn't.

If the country is to be held to ransom for anyone then there are millions more deserving than a small number of tanker drivers, so spare me the crocodile tears.

I/m not disagreeing with that I am arguing that I think the tanker drivers need to be realistic and for the record i don't agree with the 5p tax cut for the wealthy

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Well I think these guys have every right to fight for what they have.

As for their pay, I doubt if their entire salary makes up 0.1p of the cost of a litre.

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It's not about the pay it's about the benefits and working practices they are used to but Wincanton seem to be hell bent on taking away.

But the point is that by them going on strike it's going to f*** us.

And I take it we are all prepared to take a hit for them?

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The bottom line is that it does not matter whether their job is dangerous or not, or whether a chimp could do it! The point is that they have something that we do not have and is constantly called for....."Solidarity", so I think that it is a bit rich to say that they are being greedy/selfish/over paid/whatever, when in actual fact if we were properly organised then we would be fighting to keep what we all had years ago instead of whinging about the poor returns that we have today.They are protecting what they have, and what they have built their lives around for their families, mortgages,hols,cars etc, in other words - their standard of living.

Would any of you really care about others if it meant maintaining the standard of living that you have given your families. It is not a greedy any type of worker that is forcing prices up - just greedy companies maintaining/advancing their greedy profit margins for the chosen few.The British workforce has never worked so hard, and had so little to show for it.

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If Wincanton weren't bell ends treating all their staff (not just the tanker drivers) like pieces of dog shizzer maybe there'd be none of the proposed industrial action.

This is what happens when there's a monopoly within the haulage trade,

Yes, but the point is they're no more bothered about those beneath them than who you call the 'chosen few'. They're not in the fat cat leauge, but they're way above most of the population.

Solidarity my ass.

Their only idea of solidarity is getting their minions further down the food chain to take the hit to maintain their lifestyle.

To be honest I used to believe in all that kind of solidarity/up the worker-type drivel, but it was the cab trade that made me see the light.

The bottom line is that they couldn't give a toss about me, so why should I support something detrimental to myself to help them who are earning several times more than me

Dusty, are you saying these drivers should just bend over and take it up the choccy box, just because any action they might take will affect you?

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So are they doing anything to help me, Mr-£12-takings-in my-first-four-hours?

Of course they aren't, and they won't, so why should I support them making it worse for me just to help them?

I'll take that as a yes then

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So presumably you expect me to 'down tools' to help them then?

It sounds to me as if you should be doing something to help yourself as you have not got a lot to lose anyway.

Once unions such as this one cease, then you can be rest assured that you will be better off working in Bangladesh - you are not far from that right now.

Just a simple question? Have you ever been on strike due to a work issue?

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Any suggestions then?