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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2012 10:51 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
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Even though the company i work for has a operators licence i also need to have one aswell .

Ask your council what they do about drivers/owners that live outside the licensing area.


a DRIVER can live anywhere, inside or out of a LA, a vehicle OWNER can too, but must be operating via an operator (base) licensed by the LA as no LA can licence a vehicle which operates outside of its area

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I sub-contract for a few companies, but I don't need to tell them I also have an operators license because of that reason - though I don't "steal" their customers away from them (I could), if I get found out it's not going to look good.


Not only would it not look good, you would lose more than you gain by back dooring the company who gave you work.....

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wannabeeahack wrote:
Sussex wrote:
youbeenbusy wrote:
Even though the company i work for has a operators licence i also need to have one aswell .

Ask your council what they do about drivers/owners that live outside the licensing area.


a DRIVER can live anywhere, inside or out of a LA, a vehicle OWNER can too, but must be operating via an operator (base) licensed by the LA as no LA can licence a vehicle which operates outside of its area

Grateful for the reminder.

My point is that a council can't issue an operator's license to a base outside of it's licensing area.

So if drivers must have ops licenses, then does that preclude non local (living) drivers from gaining a driver's license.

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Sussex wrote:
My point is that a council can't issue an operator's license to a base outside of it's licensing area.


Tell that to Rutland council. They have licensed a PH firm in Melton Borough.

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i can have a ph owner living outside my LA on my ops licence sand my LA will plate the vegicle, cos i asked

if the op would like to pm me with his LA ill ask who needs an ops licence in his area, PH ops, PH owners or PH drivers

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Tell that to Rutland council. They have licensed a PH firm in Melton Borough.

Then someone needs to ask them what section of what act allows a council to issue an ops license to a person/firm not based within their licensing area?

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the OP seems shy of telling us who his LA is......

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When I was looking into Ashfield to do with another post by nidge,I am sure that I found out that Ashfield,Mansfield,and bolsover all gave operators licenses to bases out of there area,perhaps nidge can confirm this?
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Sussex wrote:
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I do not think i am getting this across properly.
I drive for "ABC" cabs i have my own car and i drive it . At renewal time i have to fork out for
A badge
A operators licence
A vehicle licence.

Even though the company i work for has a operators licence i also need to have one aswell .

If at renewal time i apply for a badge only with no car, i am not sure if you need a operators licence.
I would have thought not.

Ask your council why you need an operator's license, if you are working with an operator that already has one.


Perhaps they've interpreted S46 (d) of the 1976 act differently then everybody else

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(d)no person shall in a controlled district operate any vehicle as a private hire vehicle without having a current licence under section 55 of this Act;


Isn't section 55 the part that deals with the ops license?

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it depends on the official interpretation of "operates".....

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wannabeeahack wrote:
it depends on the official interpretation of "operates".....

In the act the official interpretation is quite clear.

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Sussex wrote:
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it depends on the official interpretation of "operates".....

In the act the official interpretation is quite clear.


and that is what?

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Sussex wrote:
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it depends on the official interpretation of "operates".....

In the act the official interpretation is quite clear.



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Under the Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) Act 1976, a Private Hire Operator's licence is required to operate private hire vehicles. Essentially, it is a licence to run a taxi business where bookings are taken from customers and recorded by the operator. Licences are of 12 months duration.

The council, before granting a licence, must be satisfied that an applicant is a fit and proper person to hold such a licence and ensure that the operation of the business will not cause nuisance or obstruction problems to neighbouring premises.

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from an LA.....


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To licence a Private Hire vehicle you do need an operators licence and this is issued with the vehicle licence. The cost for both licenses currently stands at £255 and you will require off road parking to obtain an operators licence. The vehicle will need to meet Torbay Councils specification which is in the drivers handbook that you receive when you first apply to become a driver. You are then able to go and work through any company that you wish to and they can distribute jobs to you.

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wannabeeahack wrote:
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wannabeeahack wrote:
it depends on the official interpretation of "operates".....

In the act the official interpretation is quite clear.


and that is what?

"operate" means in the course of business to make provision for the invitation or acceptance of bookings for a private hire vehicle;

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