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I doubt very much whether it would have any impact on insurance premiums as most dodgy whiplash claims are made by people who are not in taxis/ph vehicles, in fact some are not in any vehicle

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you mean like in watford? coventry? wirrall? birmingham? sheffield?? the list goes on of where its failed ....

as for the cameras, all some of them have to do is get licensed in south oxfordshire or west oxfordshire,who dont require cameras and pretend to be hackney carriages and happily continue to work for 001 or Royal.

personally i think they are a good idea and no matter how much bleating they do, the cameras are coming...

If the scumbags that attacked those drivers are jailed I don't call that a failure.

And how many attacks are deterred by cameras? I would say, but cannot prove something that never happened, thousands.

Maybe more studies along the lines of the Sheffield study, which showed that attacks on drivers with CCTV dropped by about 80%, should be undertaken.

But as a massive fan of mandatory CCTV I can sleep well in the knowledge that there will be less drivers attacked, and maybe even a few more alive because of it.

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IDFIMH

Well it is and has, there are firms that have reduced their fleet insurance. As for passenger whiplash that is the point, CCTV will reduce such claims. A passenger can't make a claim, when the CCTV clearly shows no neck trauma.

Shame you quote out of context, now reread the IRONY part!!!!

Yes I agree that CCTV will come, and rightly so.

I've spoken with a few drivers about this and their main concern is what the cameras film when there aren't customers in the vehicle. Sometimes when they get angry with the operators or a customer has annoyed them and the hit the steering wheel in frustration once the customer is out of the vehicle etc, etc

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And who is going to see such events? Its appears as usual that the trade is ignorant of the facts.

That's what I tried to explain to them but they are very suspicious

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But why would anyone want to see that?

A complaint is made to the police and/or the council, the data controller downloads the time section the event is alleged to have happened.

That's it. Unless someone can show or tell me where a driver has had any data viewed that didn't correspond with the time-line of the complaint.

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Indeed if you read read the CCTV code of practice it is very clear. The request also has to be made in writing.

That says it all. They are hiding something.

I agree, for the life of me I can't understand how the honest drivers (which are the majority) aren't crying out for CCTV.

Let us call a spade a spade!

If you/I emigrated then that would make us the foreigner..............so would you want a foreign government knowing every move that you made/knowing everything that you do, maybe you have moved to get away from that type of government?

It is all very well saying; Oh if you are doing nothing wrong then you have nothing to fear! I consider myself one of the good guys, But! I have made bad calls out on the road, and in bygone days gotten into some right slanging matches, with some of the ar$ehole$ that sometimes infest our cabs saying things in the heat of the moment that perhaps should have not been said.

To a degree I have my reservations, but the choice should be down to the individual and not forced upon us in another "Big Brother" move. You/I are already spied upon an enormous amount with street cams and now they are proposing to invade our e - mails/computers, texts, phones etc etc................quite frankly I think that enough is enough as our freedom in general is being massively eroded, it should be your/my choice and nobody elses.

Let me put it another way.

If it were about safety, then every copper would be made to where a bullet proof vest, and all services personnel would be made to do the same! that does not happen because money to them is more important than saving the lives of the above, and they will not make them spend their money to buy these vests because it would be embarrassing to them politically, with us they can and do bully us by telling us that we have to spend our hard earned money, not for safety as they would have some to believe................. but just to keep an eye on things!

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Your Police and vest analogy is interesting, I have no clue where you work/live, but I have never seen a patrolling Officer in one of the safest cities in the UK (Brighton) without a vest, even the community officers wear them.

Oh and Police officers are starting to wear head cams more and more, especially in environments (Saturday night) that warrant it.
Which is the whole point of the CCTV code of conduct, it's use has to be justified, which I'm afraid the figures PROVE it is.

Well said John, trouble is a lot of younger ppl have been born into this snooper world so they know no different.

On a plus point it should help stop the unlicensed cousin driving, but will it, no it won't because all they will do is disable the camera and if something happens like a crash etc they will then play ignorant and the licensed driver will take the blame for not maintaining the equipment while the cousin is moved to another cab to start the cycle all over again.


Lets look at the next option, a fight develops, driver takes a small whack, driver gets the better of perp and gives perp a pasting, who is going to be the one getting in trouble for minding his own business, they will both be in the mire but you can bet the driver will get handed down the real punishment.

Then we have Agent Provocateur, set the driver up with a topical question and watch him incriminate himself for having an opinion (with this one the day the camera is enforced I shall be having three lines of chat with customers) where can I do for you, that is £???? thx and finally goodbye.

My basic reason I don't want a camera enforced on me is I come from a time when we didn't have any of this, it's manipulator's that have caused it with lies and stroke pulling.

So maybe a semi alternative would be anyone licesed or wanting to become licensed gives a DNA sample, that should keep those with undeclared previous out, and remind the new drivers that they need to not put themselves in position to get patsied, i.e don't shag the drunken slag anymore, if you want to be with her, arrange to take her out the next day where she can't scream rape at you, but anyway, for those that wish to have a camera, then that isn't a problem to me either, but that is the choice of those who want one.