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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 9:53 pm 
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they are looking at as a PH passing a booking to another PH (in the same area) but it looks fraught with possible dangers

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:15 pm 
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A ph does a booking for an op and cannot pass it on to another ph,only the op can pass it on to another op in same area or another ph on same ops licence, or hackney from anywhere.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 03, 2012 10:53 pm 
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A ph does a booking for an op and cannot pass it on to another ph,only the op can pass it on to another op in same area or another ph on same ops licence, or hackney from anywhere.


both the base and the car are in the same LA, its one ops-licenced firm (the base) passing to another ops-licensed firm (the car), i just doubt that a car owner/plated running round doing jobs off a radio will have all booking details that base has taken, and will the base keep 100% accurate details to hand to the car owner if needed?

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:30 am 
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Only the operator taking the booking has to keep records of the booking,if he passes it to another op in same area,then that op will have to record the booking?


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 12:52 am 
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THIS APPLICATION IS IN CONNECTION WITH:
( ) A HACKNEY CARRIAGE VEHICLE
( ) A PRIVATE HIRE VEHICLE
THIS APPLICATION IS FOR:
( ) () () ()
1ST APPLICATION
RENEWAL APPLICATION
TRANSFER APPLICATION (CHANGE OF OWNERSHIP OF LICENSED VEHICLE) CHANGE OF VEHICLE (TO REPLACE LICENSED VEHICLE)
APPLICANTS MUST: (a) Pay a licence fee
(b) Pay a licence plate/mounting bracket deposit (if new or 1st vehicle application)
(c) Produce a valid M.O.T. Certificate (Hackney Carriage at 12 months Private Hire at 3 years) (d) Produce current, correctly-worded insurance for the vehicle
(e) Produce the V5 Vehicle Registration Document or the receipt/bill of sale
PLEASE NOTE: FX4S, METRO CAB AND TX1S WILL NOT BE LICENCED AS PRIVATE HIRE VEHICLES
AN OPERATOR LICENCE WILL BE ISSUED WITHIN 14 DAYS OF COMPLETION OF THE APPLICATION. THIS MEANS WHEN ALL OUTSTANDING MATTERS HAVE BEEN COMPLETED – INCORRECTLY WORDED INSURANCE MAY DELAY THE ISSUE OF A VEHICLE LICENCE.
ANY INFORMATION YOU GIVE IN CONNECTION WITH YOUR APPLICATION MAY BE DISCLOSED BY THE COUNCIL TO THE POLICE, DEPARTMENT OF SOCIAL SECURITY OR ANY OTHER LAW ENFORCING AUTHORITY LEVYING TAXATION, SUBJECT TO THE PROVISIONS OF THE DATA PROTECTION LEGISLATION. THE COUNCIL WILL ONLY RENEW A CURRENT LICENCE TO YOU PROVIDING IT IS SATISFIED THAT YOU ARE A FIT AND PROPER PERSON.

Does this mean a hackney is issued with an ops licence also?


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 1:00 am 
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Theirs not an application form for an operators licence on the Lichfield web site?


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:44 am 
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mancityfan wrote:
If a private hire vehicle owner also needs his own ops licence to receive bookings,does this not make him a mobile booking office and therefore he is able to do immediate hire .?

But in the light of massive changes, to the communications infrastructure, would that judge, or any judge, repeat that judgement? :?

I'm not convinced they would.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:45 am 
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they are looking at as a PH passing a booking to another PH (in the same area) but it looks fraught with possible dangers

That will defo be changed via this new cab act.

And it will make the spivs a lot more richer. :sad:

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mancityfan wrote:
Theirs not an application form for an operators licence on the Lichfield web site?


do you want one?.... :lol:

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Only the operator taking the booking has to keep records of the booking,if he passes it to another op in same area,then that op will have to record the booking?


in theory yes but the LA in question (not mine) thinks a car owner can simply request details off the base who took the job and sent him/her

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 7:36 pm 
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in theory yes but the LA in question (not mine) thinks a car owner can simply request details off the base who took the job and sent him/her
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It's for the licensing authority to get the info from the operator,there's no requirement for a driver to keep these details for them.and if he did keep records for all his bookings he would not know what time it was booked,who took the booking,when the booking was amended and by whom,wether the booking was made by phone,in person,by another driver ect


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Theirs not an application form for an operators licence on the Lichfield web site?


do you want one?....



Yes


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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:14 pm 
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in theory yes but the LA in question (not mine) thinks a car owner can simply request details off the base who took the job and sent him/her
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It's for the licensing authority to get the info from the operator,there's no requirement for a driver to keep these details for them.and if he did keep records for all his bookings he would not know what time it was booked,who took the booking,when the booking was amended and by whom,wether the booking was made by phone,in person,by another driver ect


the LA in question are making the car owner the operator responsible for booking details, even though the booking didnt come from the passenger, but from the cars base

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 04, 2012 9:16 pm 
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Theirs not an application form for an operators licence on the Lichfield web site?


do you want one?....


Yes


ring LDC and ask for one then

http://www.lichfielddc.gov.uk/info/636/ ... e_operator

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56 Operators of private hire vehicles (1) For the purposes of this Part of this Act every contract for the hire of a private hire vehicle licensed under this Part of this Act shall be deemed to be made with the operator who accepted the booking for that vehicle whether or not he himself provided the vehicle.


If they intended each vehicle to have an ops licence and record all bookings then why does it say the above in the 76act?


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