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The major plank of the Nasties independence wheeze is for us to remain in Europe. They know that asking us to go it truly alone would be a no no. A flea in the ear for them.

Sol, they've saddled us with closer links to the EU, satisfied that they will at least have weaned us off Westminster.

Came across this piece from Daniel Hannan in the Spectator - April 7 edition.

"In the year we joined (the EU), western Europe accounted for 38 per cent of world GDP. Today it's 24 per cent, and in 2020 it will be 15%. Far from joining a prosperous market, we shackled ourselves to a corpse."

A smaller voice, trying to speak to a stiffening corpse? Wow!!! that's quite a future in store.

Now cue trade experts to tell us how we're gonna buck this and force the EU to do our bidding?



It's not the Westminster link that needs evaluated, it has to be the EU one Salmond wants to weld us to.

Perhaps you should analyse the comment a little closer before seizing on it.

The worlds GDP has grown since 1973
Places like China, India and Russia barely counted in those days.
How far has the UK slipped in the last 40 years, using the same analagy?

And if the EU is a corpse, why do all the unionist parties wish to remain shackled to it?

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He does say it as he sees it.

Quite refreshing in a politician.

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Jasbar is right.

You only have to look at the bailout conditions attached to Greece ffs

May 2, 2010

Greece Bailout: Klein's Shock Doctrine in Action

Today the IMF and Europe agreed to a €130 billion bailout package to Greece.

Greece has been under intense pressure recently. The economic crisis plunged Greece, like many other nations, into tough economic times.

As Greece has maintained consistently high levels of debt over many years, the downturns in their shipping and tourism economies have meant that they have required more and more debt in order to keep paying their bills.

However there has been a catch.

American debt-rating agencies (companies which essentially set out how much it will cost to take out a loan) recently said Greece might not pay back its debts.

Greek Prime-Minster George Papandreou has even stated that Greece is being 'attacked' on purpose.

Speaking in the Guardian he said, "This is an attack on the eurozone by certain other interests, political or financial, and often countries are being used as the weak link, if you like, of the eurozone. We are being targeted, particularly with an ulterior motive or agenda, and of course there is speculation in the world markets."

So few people are lending Greece money. This has made it impossible for Greece to get the loans it needs to keep running the country and pay back the loans it has already taken out.

And the 'shock' of the Greece financial situation is being used to destroy Greece's welfare state in what is being reported as "the most drastic overhaul of a European economy ever attempted."

Canadian-writer Naomi Klein's book The Shock Doctrine outlines the process that is currently happening in Greece: free market policies which benefit private businesses are being pushed through while citizens are busy reacting to a rough crisis.

Today, Greece was brought to its knees. Another article by the Guardian reports that the three previous austerity measures by Greece to reduce their debt were not good enough, even though they have caused massive strikes and riots in Greece.

In order to receive the €130 billion bailout from the IMF and Europe, Greece will have to destroy their welfare system:

In return for the lifeline, Papandreou has committed to the most ambitious and draconian reshaping of Greece's welfare state ever attempted. Spending cuts amounting to more than €36bn or 11% of national GDP are to be made over the next three years. Wages, pensions, and benefits in Greece's bloated public sector will be cut, and large VAT and other tax rises will be imposed. The retirement age is to be raised. The savage programme will inevitably deepen Greece's recession and push up unemployment.Faced with strong public hostility and possible threats to the longevity of his government, Papandreou is squeezed between intense opposition at home and the pressure of the Germans, the IMF, and the other Europeans. Scepticism is high as to whether he will be able to deliver on the terms of the pact.

This has come a day after major May Day demonstrations in Greece. A bank in Athens was bombed today.

There has also been fears and speculation that Spain, Ireland and Portugal will also face similar debt problems as Greece.


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Yes, it's the welfare state that is always first in the fallout.

Anyway, it doesn't matter how much world GDP has grown. It's the EUs share that has dipped. If there is a simple economic truth, it has to be that, like companies in the domestic market, if you can't keep your share, and expand it, you're effectively going backwards.

Talent migrates to vibrant economies. If that talent departs for successful economies, then the EU loses. We all lose.

The EU is in a state of flux. The euro has lost credibility. It's clear that the centralised bureaucracy hasn't learned how to make all of the disparate economies fit into its single economic straightjacket.

The Euro goes t*ts up with an economic cold, faux-independent Scotland would be standing on the sidelines sneezing. And waiting for the big boys to allow it to pop along to the nurse for medicine.

Tell you what. let's start with a referendum on the EU, and take it from there.

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And of course the only solution to all this is to stick with your beloved union

Aye right

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So if the EU is screwed, what magical properties does the UK possess that will protect us from economic armageddon?

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Nothing Magical required...Just some hard work, UK Unity, Harmony and the demise of the Nasties would be a helluva start..

As for Mainland Europe as a whole...its in a fechin bigger mess than the UK, Im sure any Scot with half a brain knows which union he would be better off in and that we'd be best seeking independence from the EU itself...cos your much lamented Freedom will be gone forever in a federal Europe.

The UK is in the EU mire already, if you haven't noticed.
If it's screwed, so is the UK.

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And scotland will be more Screwed as it further devolves from the UK.....infact its more likeky to dissolve as devolve, we'll melt into oblivion faster than a sugar cube in Ecks Tea mug.

Doesn't it seem that Eck's solution is to put his last penny on the store horse running in the last race at Musselburgh?



BTW Still haven't spoken to anyone in the cab who thinks Eck's ambitions are in any way desirable.

Perhaps you need to get out more

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