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PostPosted: Tue Apr 24, 2012 6:43 pm 
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Mr Glasgow added that "the events described by these claimants are so rare" that their arguments in the case "do not have broad policy implications".

That seems to indicate to me that he is not confident of victory, on the insurance front.

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Good luck to them but personally where does this end, could it be that the insurance company could blame the licence department because without the licence he wouldn't have been able to do this either. Another concern is that if this case is won the effects on the insurance for drivers could be alarming. How do the insurance companies perform a risk assessment for this kind of incident?



The insurance company couldn't blame the licensing department, because the licensing department could prove that they had taken all resonable steps to ensure the driver was "fit and proper"

Which is why we all have to stump up for CRB checks, so your local authority can cover their own arses against legal actions such as this.

They serve no other useful purpose, apart from keeping several hundred scousers in meaningful employment.

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Just how many CRB checks did Warboys have?

Didn't stop the creep did it?

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The insurance company couldn't blame the licensing department, because the licensing department could prove that they had taken all resonable steps to ensure the driver was "fit and proper"

Which is why we all have to stump up for CRB checks, so your local authority can cover their own arses against legal actions such as this.

They serve no other useful purpose, apart from keeping several hundred scousers in meaningful employment.



Not so sure about that in the case of Worboys, I seem to remember the met police and tfl mentioning his name in respect of a possible rape suspect well before he was caught.

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The insurance company couldn't blame the licensing department, because the licensing department could prove that they had taken all resonable steps to ensure the driver was "fit and proper"

Which is why we all have to stump up for CRB checks, so your local authority can cover their own arses against legal actions such as this.

They serve no other useful purpose, apart from keeping several hundred scousers in meaningful employment.



Not so sure about that in the case of Worboys, I seem to remember the met police and tfl mentioning his name in respect of a possible rape suspect well before he was caught.

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I bet they didn't pass that info on to the insurers though !!

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I bet they didn't pass that info on to the insurers though !!



The insurance company....whoever they are, will employ barristers, who employ a little girl in the office to do a defence....then they'll charge the insurance company an extortionate amount for the work the little girl in the office did......and hopefully she'll read TDO.

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I bet they didn't pass that info on to the insurers though !!


Or the council for that matter

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captain cab wrote:
jimbo wrote:


The insurance company couldn't blame the licensing department, because the licensing department could prove that they had taken all resonable steps to ensure the driver was "fit and proper"

Which is why we all have to stump up for CRB checks, so your local authority can cover their own arses against legal actions such as this.

They serve no other useful purpose, apart from keeping several hundred scousers in meaningful employment.



Not so sure about that in the case of Worboys, I seem to remember the met police and tfl mentioning his name in respect of a possible rape suspect well before he was caught.

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I bet they didn't pass that info on to the insurers though !!



That someone is a "possible" rape "suspect" is not information (is it?)

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That someone is a "possible" rape "suspect" is not information (is it?)


From an insurance point of view you are probably right but from the point a view of the council you could possibly be wrong

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That someone is a "possible" rape "suspect" is not information (is it?)



It is under the civil rule of law....the one you're licensed under.

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That someone is a "possible" rape "suspect" is not information (is it?)



It is under the civil rule of law....the one you're licensed under.

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Joe Stalin would 've loved it.

Like Germany in the 1930's then. A neighbour pees you off, denounce them to the gestapo, and off to the concentration camp for "retraining"?

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Joe Stalin would 've loved it.

Like Germany in the 1930's then. A neighbour pees you off, denounce them to the gestapo, and off to the concentration camp for "retraining"?


I'm sure he would....sadly there's caselaw.

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Joe Stalin would 've loved it.

Like Germany in the 1930's then. A neighbour pees you off, denounce them to the gestapo, and off to the concentration camp for "retraining"?


I'm sure he would....sadly there's caselaw.

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Caselaw of people being arrested on suspicion of being possibly suspected of something or other? Whats the maximum sentence for that "crime"?

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Caselaw of people being arrested on suspicion of being possibly suspected of something or other? Whats the maximum sentence for that "crime"?


whatever....they fact remains he was licensed, like the rest of us, on the basis of civil not criminal law.

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Joe Stalin would 've loved it.

Like Germany in the 1930's then. A neighbour pees you off, denounce them to the gestapo, and off to the concentration camp for "retraining"?


I'm sure he would....sadly there's caselaw.

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Caselaw of people being arrested on suspicion of being possibly suspected of something or other? Whats the maximum sentence for that "crime"?


Would you like somebody who was suspected of rape driving your daughter home? Which is after all what Worboys was allegedly suspected of and such suspicions were not passed to the council

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