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PostPosted: Thu Apr 26, 2012 12:21 am 
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I agree. I just don't understand why the people of this country are putting up with the greed and corruption. Their apathy is incredible. Everything going on now is just a pi8s-take but no one seems to care. It's actually like they believe the Cameron mantra “we are all in this together.” :evil:

Where the fu*k is the tipping point? :evil:


I think new labour has effectively f*cked it for many years to come, all 3 parties in england are much the same, here's the new boss....same as the old boss..........sadly whilst we can understand this sh*te from the tories.....10 years of the same sh*te from labour politicians was and is unforgiveable.

Scotland is different, you have the scotsnats and are more of a socialist society than the english.....this is where gusmac has a point.....however when you see the scots nats cowtow to stagecoach over their bus nationalisation policy???? well that makes them the same as those south of the border doesnt it??

I've become so disillusioned with the sh*te I'm thinking everytime they say something.....okay, why are they wanting us to look in that direction.

Sadly, if im feeling like that, disillusioned with politicians and politics.....everyone else is, which means the perpetual monopoly wont actually change because the people are cynical and wont vote..........your man chomsky seems to think this is the case un the US. Its not to our advantage.....its to theirs.

I listen to people like UKIP......they're actually mad, they think a few thousand businesses will give employment to the entire country, by reducing red tape? ffs they aint got a clue, they want us out of europe and away from our biggest trading partners........unfortunately the thought doesnt actually appear to have occurred to any politician......our manufacturing industry was destroyed......so we havent got any shiny beads to sell.

So everyone blames the banks.......not a single politician appears to have said well.....lets regulate the f*ckers......because they're in the bankers pockets......not a single political party has said......right were going to have a UK bank.....this one will actually lend money to business and at a low rate of interest......and facing facts we bought 2 or 3 or more when they went t*ts up.....so the chance was there.

Instead we have a government so much in a hurry to enrich their supporters they sell the profitable bits of the banks and leave the tax payer with the toxic parts..........and they were so f*cking clever they didnt even remember to sort out the bonuses.....which all parties said they were going to do before the last election.

You got no chance of a revolution......Britains got Talent is on telly.

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:01 am 
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I agree. I just don't understand why the people of this country are putting up with the greed and corruption. Their apathy is incredible. Everything going on now is just a pi8s-take but no one seems to care. It's actually like they believe the Cameron mantra “we are all in this together.” :evil:

Where the fu*k is the tipping point? :evil:


I think new labour has effectively f*cked it for many years to come, all 3 parties in england are much the same, here's the new boss....same as the old boss..........sadly whilst we can understand this sh*te from the tories.....10 years of the same sh*te from labour politicians was and is unforgiveable.

Scotland is different, you have the scotsnats and are more of a socialist society than the english.....this is where gusmac has a point.....however when you see the scots nats cowtow to stagecoach over their bus nationalisation policy???? well that makes them the same as those south of the border doesnt it??

I've become so disillusioned with the sh*te I'm thinking everytime they say something.....okay, why are they wanting us to look in that direction.

Sadly, if im feeling like that, disillusioned with politicians and politics.....everyone else is, which means the perpetual monopoly wont actually change because the people are cynical and wont vote..........your man chomsky seems to think this is the case un the US. Its not to our advantage.....its to theirs.

I listen to people like UKIP......they're actually mad, they think a few thousand businesses will give employment to the entire country, by reducing red tape? ffs they aint got a clue, they want us out of europe and away from our biggest trading partners........unfortunately the thought doesnt actually appear to have occurred to any politician......our manufacturing industry was destroyed......so we havent got any shiny beads to sell.

So everyone blames the banks.......not a single politician appears to have said well.....lets regulate the f*ckers......because they're in the bankers pockets......not a single political party has said......right were going to have a UK bank.....this one will actually lend money to business and at a low rate of interest......and facing facts we bought 2 or 3 or more when they went t*ts up.....so the chance was there.

Instead we have a government so much in a hurry to enrich their supporters they sell the profitable bits of the banks and leave the tax payer with the toxic parts..........and they were so f*cking clever they didnt even remember to sort out the bonuses.....which all parties said they were going to do before the last election.

You got no chance of a revolution......Britains got Talent is on telly.

CC


I thought, with the flow of information out with the controlled bullshit you normally get from our mainstream media. Something would kick off. Too many people knowing what's really happening that are not prepared to accept their sh*te any longer. I'm still waiting. It's soul destroying, but then again, you can only hope there is movement going on behind the scenes. That's the funny thing, about the Internet, no one really knows, until it happens. Fingers crossed. [-o<


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 3:18 am 
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The club may be bad. But there's a fierce loyalty to the club.

Apathy means not rocking the boat.

perhaps the trigger will be the rising price of alcohol, fags and magic mushrooms =D>

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 27, 2012 9:26 pm 
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Skull wrote:

I thought, with the flow of information out with the controlled bullshit you normally get from our mainstream media. Something would kick off. Too many people knowing what's really happening that are not prepared to accept their sh*te any longer. I'm still waiting. It's soul destroying, but then again, you can only hope there is movement going on behind the scenes. That's the funny thing, about the Internet, no one really knows, until it happens. Fingers crossed. [-o<


You can cross your fingers as long as you want mate.....the British are not like the french, we are subservient, ironically this trait was indoctrinised into the Scots by the English, but if you check your history, you'll find the Scots have a tipping point....my issue is, it was reached 20 years ago and nothing happened, but prior to WW2 something would have kicked off, its weird how the country has become so conforming really.

I actually appreciate your and jasbars stance on independance, here comes the new boss.....same as the old boss, albeit with a Scots accent, either way you'll be subservient, whether its to the english of scots is open to question. Either way, you'll be eating your own body hair for nutrition, like the rest of this silly island.

BTW.....its almost 25% of spain which is unemployed today......they're really benefitting from Europe.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:17 am 
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It’s all about, “Perspective,” folks..... In the 70‘s, things were tough, but I was in my 20‘s, I was,”Invincible,” or so I thought... we’re getting older, mair’ fed up, it’s natural.... The young ones will cope just fine... (I hope so anyway).


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:09 am 
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It’s all about, “Perspective,” folks..... In the 70‘s, things were tough, but I was in my 20‘s, I was,”Invincible,” or so I thought... we’re getting older, mair’ fed up, it’s natural.... The young ones will cope just fine... (I hope so anyway).


Aye Fairplay, my "young ones" joining the RAF, because things are so fine. It was a different world, in the 70s, there wasn't the flow of information you have now and most people believed in the "Great" of Great Britain. Not any more.
Everyone knows it's bullshi*. :-|

You are right about perspective, but me thinks you are the one living in the past. :-|


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 1:24 am 
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Skull wrote:

I thought, with the flow of information out with the controlled bullshit you normally get from our mainstream media. Something would kick off. Too many people knowing what's really happening that are not prepared to accept their sh*te any longer. I'm still waiting. It's soul destroying, but then again, you can only hope there is movement going on behind the scenes. That's the funny thing, about the Internet, no one really knows, until it happens. Fingers crossed. [-o<


You can cross your fingers as long as you want mate.....the British are not like the french, we are subservient, ironically this trait was indoctrinised into the Scots by the English, but if you check your history, you'll find the Scots have a tipping point....my issue is, it was reached 20 years ago and nothing happened, but prior to WW2 something would have kicked off, its weird how the country has become so conforming really.

I actually appreciate your and jasbars stance on independance, here comes the new boss.....same as the old boss, albeit with a Scots accent, either way you'll be subservient, whether its to the english of scots is open to question. Either way, you'll be eating your own body hair for nutrition, like the rest of this silly island.

BTW.....its almost 25% of spain which is unemployed today......they're really benefitting from Europe.

CC


I agree with your sentiments, but it's one thing, being shafted while being too ignorant to know any better and being bent over, knowing what's coming next. The youth of today, know the game is rigged. Hence last years riots but what next, when and where will it start?

I just can't believe that people are so inured by the system it can continue like nothings happened, like you say, the Scots have always had a tipping point but what we need is a catalyst. And what that might be is anyone's guess, but it has to come. Nothing lasts for ever.

I have faith in the natural cycle of things. :-| :wink:


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 3:31 am 
I'll add a bit to this, tonight I picked up a fare, the fare was someone who works around the government and that person informed me that Mr Osbourne Chancellor of the UK got into debt on his mortgage and required daddy to bail him out before the baliff threw him out, now how can someone like that hold this position in government if he can't even pay his own way and on a huge salary at that, and then smirk at us when he raises taxes that raise everything in turn, the Tories need to shift this useless POS asap before he makes them unellectable, also I got the chance to watch The Iron Lady yesterday, a great film if you can relate to the event's, it shows her as she really was, I know it's film and it could be dramatised but the things that struck me were the Falklands where her cabinet is saying don't sink the Belgrano it's steaming away, so instead of shadowing it she bellows out SINK IT, then when the Sheffield gets hit she's like a bully who just got beat up by the wimp kid, now I back her for going and getting it back, but I think had she not sunk that ship none of ours would've got hit either, it would've been a pure land battle as we would've been on the ground before any action had taken place, and as history shows not a lot of those Argie boys really wanted to fight anyway so probably a short one, thats all hindsight though, another is where she is telling us all to take the medicine and it's good for us despite warnings from the ministers that ppl are losing their homes, until this breed of person is removed from our system and someone whose lived replaces them and knows the effects of harsh policies, for me she has the blood of at least 1000 ppl on her hands, be it armed forces from both sides or suicides she caused, but her and Osbourne are deffo the same type of person, and that is not a good thing imo.

I repeat, how can someone who can't manage their own finances get to live at number eleven downing street?


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Do you believe everything that punters tell you? Do you also believe everything that is in a film? I watched a documentry the other week about what happened on the Appolo 13 space mission compared to the film version directed by Ron Howard. Things that we assume happened because they were in the film, never happened at all. Ron Howard admitted putting things in to make it more dramatic.

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PostPosted: Sat Apr 28, 2012 12:30 pm 
I did say that myself Pops, I also know how to work a punters credibility out as well and this one was credible, I also had to edure Thatcher while she was PM and live TV reporting of her speaking doesn't lie, and it was a pretty accurate portrail of a woman who simply knew best all the time and was non negotiable on everything, a woman who didn't mind sending your son somewhere he may not come back from, but in turn had the whole country looking for her brat when he got lost having a jolly in a rally, about the only thing I have ever liked about the woman is her daughter who I do find a bit Princess Anne'ish in her ways, i.e good company down the pub.


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Sunday Times Rich List 2012: Wealth of richest grows to record levels

The combined wealth of the 1,000 richest men and women in Britain has risen to record levels in the past year, despite the country’s continuing economic slump.



http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/9233 ... evels.html


Most EU aid 'goes to richer nations' - MPs The committee says the UK must put pressure on Europe to reform its aid system

More than half of Europe's development aid budget is going to "relatively rich" countries like Turkey and Serbia, British MPs have warned


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-17861510

More people turning to food banks

A record number of people are turning to charities to help them feed their families.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-17867328

350,000 'could lose school meals'

More than 350,000 children could lose their free school meals under the Government's planned welfare reforms, a charity has warned.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/educa ... 60218.html

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 29, 2012 12:47 pm 
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Fairplay wrote:
It’s all about, “Perspective,” folks..... In the 70‘s, things were tough, but I was in my 20‘s, I was,”Invincible,” or so I thought... we’re getting older, mair’ fed up, it’s natural.... The young ones will cope just fine... (I hope so anyway).


The young have been Stitched up for generations to come by politicians of all creeds as well as by the Unions, I read today that we have saddled everyone in the country with £180,000 worth of Debt just to cover the cost of public sector pensions, Add that to other national debt and its well over £200,000 per person. Simply unsustainable.

I pity the young of today, it makes me sick to the pit of my stomach to see what a financial and economic mess we have left them with. a matter made worse because of needless environmental rules and laws that's going to inhibit their pace of economic recovery still further.

I truly hope that there is a new breed of selfless not selfish politicians on the horizon, people who can lead a strong nation on principles and vision and not just to see whats in it for themselves, Do'ers not takers...

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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2012 2:01 am 
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It’s all about, “Perspective,” folks..... In the 70‘s, things were tough, but I was in my 20‘s, I was,”Invincible,” or so I thought... we’re getting older, mair’ fed up, it’s natural.... The young ones will cope just fine... (I hope so anyway).


The young have been Stitched up for generations to come by politicians of all creeds as well as by the Unions, I read today that we have saddled everyone in the country with £180,000 worth of Debt just to cover the cost of public sector pensions, Add that to other national debt and its well over £200,000 per person. Simply unsustainable.

I pity the young of today, it makes me sick to the pit of my stomach to see what a financial and economic mess we have left them with. a matter made worse because of needless environmental rules and laws that's going to inhibit their pace of economic recovery still further.

I truly hope that there is a new breed of selfless not selfish politicians on the horizon, people who can lead a strong nation on principles and vision and not just to see whats in it for themselves, Do'ers not takers...

eusasmiles.zip


Public sector pensions are paid for by those who work in the public sector. It compensates for the poorer rates of pay they endure on the promise of being looked after in retirement. That is to say, lower pay now and a decent pension later.

However, it's convenient for the government to pretend that they are getting megabucks at our expense. because government likes to set worker against worker. Knowing full well that the gullible herd will swaloow their shecht.

Like benefit cheats. Compare with tax avoidance by the rich, we could afford to double up the money benefits cheats are supposed to take.

While there are a few headline cases, the vast majority are just guys who need the benefit because they can't work, or can't afford to work, or can't find a job to do at a reasonable rate of pay.

If everyone earning over 10 grand paid just a minimum 10% of the salary irresspective of what allowances they were supposedly allowed we'd be hitting the jackpot.

So let's pull back all those footballers that clubs like Rangers help avoid tax and surcharge them now.

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Public sector pensions are paid for by those who work in the public sector. It compensates for the poorer rates of pay they endure on the promise of being looked after in retirement. That is to say, lower pay now and a decent pension later.


Thats Borrocks...They get damned good wages, seldom hard worked and we the tax/Community charge payer contribute massively to their pension pots..

Check out this link:

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/pensions/article-2068056/Public-sector-workers-pensions-worth-20-times-value-contributions.html

Heres an Example:

"Alexander Forbes' sums show that someone earning £40,000 at retirement, having spent a forty-year career working for the state, is likely to be on course for a pension worth £26,667.

In his calculations, Mr Carey assumed that a worker's salary increased in line with RPI inflation at 4 per cent over the forty-year period, finally reaching £40,000 by the age of 62; and that gross contributions were at 6 per cent of salary*.

Contributions over the forty years tally £46,000.

To buy an inflation-linked pension worth £26,667 in the annuity market, a saver would need a pot worth around £900,000, according to pension provider Hargreaves Lansdown, due to the equivalent inflation-linked annuity rate being 2.88 per cent.

While annuity rates have crashed below 6,000 per £100,000 for healthy pensioners, they are even lower for those who want their payouts to rise with inflation each year, says Hargreaves' Danny Cox.

Carey points out that several assumptions underpin his analysis. However, he insists they are fair and fairly representative of wider public sector"


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With the recent swing to the left in France and Greece's new parliament likely to be anti austerity, I predict first thing tommorrow morning the god of the market will be angry, the people of France and Greece must be punished for their insolence and disobediance, the market versus the people. We'll see within months who runs countries.....markets or politicians.

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