Taxi Driver Online

Why's it not an option..I thought it was supposed to be only a Consultation at this point in time?

Indeed that's what is being proposed, but it's not what (in my view) the PH drivers would want. And they shouldn't have their so-called reps signing up to something that will reduce their earnings.

Yes in some areas, including the so-called London beacon, standards are s***, and anyone can get a license. But shouldn't this trade be trying to raise standards not scraping the bottom of the barrel?

And on top of that we will have a one size fits all vehicle policy. How the f*** is that going to work?

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IDFIMH

Why is it that I'm getting a distinct 'Sussex-isn't-best-pleased' vibe about all this?

You are right.

Whether we like it or not a National Maximum Standard for PHV & PHD takes away local authority discretion.

They cannot solve problems that may develop on a local level - we are all sensible enough to realise that both taxi and PH policy on a local level develops over time with experience......hell some LA's even consult - and if we dont like what they do we can challenge through the courts.

By signing up to a national standard......which isnt actually explained in the document, so its a case of signing up for something that you dont actually know - is in my view extremely foolish beyond the ken of my good self.

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

I do wonder how different the document would of been if the LC and its members lived and worked outside London.

That is a very good point.

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

I wonder how different it would be if they worked within the trade or indeed knew anybody that was a driver within the trade I wonder how many of Addison Lees' or Deltas' drivers they have spoken to or indeed how many ranks they have visited

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Note to self: Just because it pops into my head does NOT mean it should come out of my mouth!!

Why d'you remind me of a squeaky hinge

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

What also interests me is how they came to the positions they have chosen. It is all well and good defendiing a postion with an argument but scrutiny of how you came to that position in the first place is often far more important.

If someone had asked this about eugentics, history would of been rather different.

I think I need to put the often used (flawed) reason to allow cross border hiring to be put to bed once and for all. In relation to vehicles breaking down miles from home and needing help to complete the job.

1) It hardly ever happens. The firm I work with do in excess of a 1,000,000 jobs a year, included in that is a very large amount of long distance work. The Operations Manager confirmed to me today it happens about 2 or 3 times a year.
2) Should it happen, and the job was taken by a taxi firm, then that job can be passed onto any licensed firm they choose i.e. not ever a problem.
3) Should it happen, and the job was taken by a PH firm, then that job can be passed onto any licensed taxi firm they choose i.e. not ever really a problem.
4) Should it happen, and that job was taken by a PH firm, then there is nothing stopping the customer ringing any firm they want direct (having been assisted by the PH driver or his firm) and booking them to complete the job. The bill for that can be paid by the driver in cash, or credit card over the phone by the PH firm i.e. not a problem, just a little inconvenient.

However should all the above not address this minute problem, then surely it's not beyond the wit of the Act's Draftsman to add a section allowing a PH firm to pass work to another non-local PH firm in exceptional circumstances.

So please next time someone gives the above reasons to inflict such a major change to our future livelihoods, please feel free to punch them on the hooter, and say it was from me.

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IDFIMH

It is not an option because it just won't happen.

If you respond with an outright rejection of all, then that is your right - it won't take you long to make your response.

It is possible that Parliament might reject it, but do you think that likely?

Changes are coming, I'm convinced of that, so I would like my input to count, so I will be responding personally.

I will assist with the local association response, and that may involve helping to construct a response with which I don't completely agree. But any Rep, doing his job properly, must reply as his members want, not on his own without reference to the membership.

I will do the Regional response, my points in the last paragraph will be just as pertinent in that document.

Hoping all will be dropped is simply the attitude of the Ostrich.

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Chris The Fish

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdlyi5mc ... re=related

Yes but all will be well because the secret national standards will sort it all out

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

I'll take your point on the undefined standards and I'll raise you that the standards will not be fixed.

If the same thing had been mooted in 1847 (or 1831 for the great unwashed in London) then emission standards would have been set at quantity of Horse s h i t produced per mile with separate levels set for urine and "Gas".

The standard will be set by (insert guess of your choice here) and will be changed as circumstances change. What is important is, how will the standard be set, who will set it, and, most vitally, how do you object to it.

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Chris The Fish

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdlyi5mc ... re=related

The secretary of state will determine it I would guess....under advice from the DfT???

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

If Licensing Officers can be delegated to give fines, a Whitehall Mandarin could be delegated to set standards, leaving Politicians free to rack up expenses.

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Chris The Fish

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gdlyi5mc ... re=related