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15.45 - 15.48 Cross border PHV's.

Not one single mention of how the change will be of benefit to the public.

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How can a 'basic standard' be high?

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It cant, and if they're looking at London for standards then i guess we're all pretty much scr*wed.

One point though, and I think its rather a good one, in fact its rather brilliant - even by my own standards (mid you brummie did allude to it recently).

What happens if.....a local authority - due to pollution - need to make an area a air action zone - they need PHV's to be summat daft like euro 9 thousand......if they change the law - this would have to be done by the secretary of state - which is fine for pollutionville UK - but what about the 300 odd other areas that dont have a problem??

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They'll say prevention is better than cure so it's not going to do any harm to improve the emissions of all vehicles

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I dont doubt it is......but why should the effect London have a knock on to the Lake District?

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In relation to PH the basic standard it can be whatever it or we want it to be.

However when the standard is set there is nothing stopping that being high compared with the average we have at present.

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IDFIMH

I see, so we're going for the maximum standard of no doors (because that includes pedicabs)

We'll have the enhanced CRB - like most of us do already.

We'll have group 1 medicals - because we dont want 26,000 London cab drivers bringing London to a standstill.

We'll have no age policies - because those funeral directors with 50 year old hearses may not like that.

These standards are getting better by the minute.

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No.

15.18
We note that a common set of bottom-line safety standards does not translate to a common set of specifications. Different types of vehicle will, for example, require different criteria to be met, and indeed, passengers taking certain modes of transport may implicitly undertake a greater degree of acceptable risk, as in respect of motorbikes, for example. We would expect the Secretary of State and Welsh Ministers to issue a range of requirements in respect of different categories of services and vehicles.

And that chaps is a major flaw in the report.

Anyone with any knowledge of the way Gov works will see there is no-way a SoS or Minister is going to want to be tied down in the minutia of different vehicle standards for different aspects of the trade.

It just wont happen.

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IDFIMH

these people are quite mad.......and it amuses me that people from one of the most over regulated professions in the universe - are taking a peek at the second most regulated.

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

What is the average? Do you know cos I don't For clarification only imo a basic standard is a passed mot for the vehicle and an ability to drive, a medical and enhaced CRB for the driver

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I've seen them in the Dom Rep but never here do we have them as a hiring service for passengers?

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they were in the Lakes and I think for a short lived period in liverpool

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

The only thing I've ever read about motorbikes was with regard to the fold up type that went in the boot so the punter could be driven home in their own vehicle. Now you've brought that to mind will these people offering that service be affected by the new laws?

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I suppose an average could be surmised.

But it would need a national survey to assess.

I don't think the actual vehicle mechanical state is an issue, if it passes an MOT then it's safe, but the state of the interior and exterior of the vehicle will be the issue. Exterior dents/scratches/rust is my view of low standards, none of that is my view of high standards. Interior split seats, burns, smells, rips, cracks, dirt equals low, none of that equals high.

How they will be written in statute is a problem that will not be solved.

In relation to drivers, DSA tests, language and written skills, customers service/disability training, knowledge tests alongside a clean CRB and medical is good, none of that is s***.

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IDFIMH

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I suppose an average could be surmised.

I do as well, however, lets not forget, this national standard appears to be sold to us like the magic elixor from snake oil salesmen, what they think and what we will get after the PH spivs get their say are two entirely different things.

I reiterate my point, signing up for a national standard, without knowing what the standard will be is foolish.

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin