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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 4:04 pm 
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That's plan B Karen, trouble is I'm not putting my money up to be told who I can and can't employ


You don't employ anybody in the strict sense of the word and it is entirely up to you, as a company, to set your own standards for drivers. If drivers pass your standards then they can join the firm. Simples really, says she sat on a business plan :wink:


That's not strictly true, if me doom asked for "white" only drivers he would be in trouble. However there is always more than one way to skin a cat. The simplest way is to have your own knowledge and driving test. The driver test is very subjective if you get my drift.

I will add I don't approve, but I also believe in others being able to do as they please as long as none is harmed in the process.


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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 5:00 pm 
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Dusty Bin wrote:

But most HCs are part of a circuit, outside London at least.

Even under a single-tier system no one would be forcing HCs to work for a circuit in the way you imply.



I'm not, and a good number of others in know here are not either, but jeez we're poor, I did 4 jobs in 4 hours yesterday eusasmiles.zip

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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 5:02 pm 
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3) A great number of the new taxis would become part-time independents,


Yet again a sweeping generalization without merit.



Not entirely, the LC claimed thousands were part time......sussex was telling me, i'm sure he'd confirm.

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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 5:03 pm 
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Surprised at so many independents, but I'd be amazed if that's representative of provincial England as a whole.

Anyone got any other hard data?



I dont think there is.....but tbh I would have thought when deregulation occurs HC's are forced onto radio circuits?

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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 5:13 pm 
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Theres thousands of independant hackneys up and down the country including myself, you seriously dont think it effects anyones earnings/job with more taxis to compete with ? Times are hard enough,4 jobs in four hours is a regular thing at the moment,its not uncommon to go 2 hours without a job.Its a good job i like my job cAuse it aint about the money at the moment thats for sure.As for part time 40 plus hours is part time in this job.


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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 6:01 pm 
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You have to remember the non taxi drivers among us espouse free markets and level playing fields, I remember when I first came on here it was the hackney baron, now it's the ph baron who keeps the rates artificially low and has an abundance of people wanting to join up.

The same non taxi drivers espouse de regulation, yet evidence that points the other way is ignored, yup they want a level playing field for thier non driving taxi buddies.


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You have to remember the non taxi drivers among us espouse free markets and level playing fields, I remember when I first came on here it was the hackney baron, now it's the ph baron who keeps the rates artificially low and has an abundance of people wanting to join up.

The same non taxi drivers espouse de regulation, yet evidence that points the other way is ignored, yup they want a level playing field for thier non driving taxi buddies.


And who are these non taxi drivers?

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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 6:42 pm 
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It's the non taxi driver lawyers mate, the ones who think they have all the answers ...


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It's the non taxi driver lawyers mate, the ones who think they have all the answers ...


Well don't be shy, tell us who you mean.

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Can't mate, you can work it your self however ...


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PostPosted: Fri May 25, 2012 7:44 pm 
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Dusty Bin wrote:
Anyone got any other hard data?

In B&H I would say 80% are on circuits.
In Lewes I would say 90% are on circuits.
In Adur I would say 90% are on circuits.

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Dusty Bin wrote:
Forgot to mention another rather pointless aspect of OFT (as alerted by a post in another thread), namely the recommendation for best practice guidance, which in fact the DfT was already dealing with.

Thus the OFT looked more like an exercise to endorse what was already on the table rather than anything more independent and radical, and in particular stuff that could be implemented without the need for a full-blown Act of Parliament.

Ditto the LC?


Funnily enough, in the several posts above I forgot to mention the OFT's biggie, namely its derestriction of HC numbers recommendation.

But of course that was also consistent with what I said earlier about the OFT only recommending things that were already on the table and could be done without an Act of Parliament.

There was already a Regulatory Reform Order proposed for derestriction which of course the OFT endorsed.

However, as we all know it was never implemented and the Government of the day merely followed the OFT's derestriction reccomendation, but fell short of going all the way.


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By the way fares in de regulated areas are generally higher than restricted areas. A quick check of PHM would verify this. I know of a PH Company that hasnt given it's drivers a fare increase in over six years, he's worried about the competition, yet that comPany is on the same private hire tariff.


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187ums wrote:
By the way fares in de regulated areas are generally higher than restricted areas.



Now why would the LC choose to ignore those supplied facts??????

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That's plan B Karen, trouble is I'm not putting my money up to be told who I can and can't employ


You don't employ anybody in the strict sense of the word and it is entirely up to you, as a company, to set your own standards for drivers. If drivers pass your standards then they can join the firm. Simples really, says she sat on a business plan :wink:


That's not strictly true, if me doom asked for "white" only drivers he would be in trouble. However there is always more than one way to skin a cat. The simplest way is to have your own knowledge and driving test. The driver test is very subjective if you get my drift.

I will add I don't approve, but I also believe in others being able to do as they please as long as none is harmed in the process.


What's not strictly true?

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