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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 9:30 pm 
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Doom, you have a very dramatic way of looking at things. :shock:

I don't want a doomsday scenario to unfold. I am merely interested in what might be born of the chaos of the situation. Will we learn from our mistakes or not? Is the world going to become a better place to live or is it going to blow up in our face, exiting times ahead, no doubt about it?


Those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it.

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Financial hard times usually result in war. Great depression for example.
Looks like the youkay will be prepared as usual.
http://news.sky.com/home/uk-news/article/16242754

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 09, 2012 10:45 pm 
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Someone, help me with this one, as I honestly don't get it? :?

Spanish banks to get up to 100bn euros in rescue loans.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18382659

Banks, all over the world are over exposed to bad debt and to what extent, is anyone's guess. The only thing we seem to know, is that the figure is almost incalculable. So what does giving 100bn euros mean exactly? :-?

I don't pretend to be an economist or an accountant or anything of that ilk, so I am more than willing to learn.

Would anyone care to take a stab at their logic? :?


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:10 am 
Skull wrote:
Doom, you have a very dramatic way of looking at things. :shock:

I don't want a doomsday scenario to unfold. I am merely interested in what might be born of the chaos of the situation. Will we learn from our mistakes or not? Is the world going to become a better place to live or is it going to blow up in our face, exiting times ahead, no doubt about it?


Those that fail to learn from history, are doomed to repeat it.

Winston Churchill



Well I see you've quoted the great man himself with one of his most outstanding truths,

Bottom line is we have arrived at this point in time due to not investing in bringing the behind world countries on and paying the common man a pittance and expect him to be able to keep up, with something like a turbo or a clutch on a car now costing £1000 to replace it's no surprise the grunts are struggling to keep up,

When you pay someone a net wage of £180 pw and to rent a room cost's £90 pw it's no surprise he can't afford anything is it, we of all ppl know this scenario because the whip crackers that employ the immigrants are doing this same thing to them, £180 pw might look like a fortune in Latvia, but this isn't Latvia and to think to yourself it's ok because the Latvian thinks he's having it off while keeping the British unemployed eventually means the Latvian goes home to a country now facing rising inflation and nobody in the UK can afford any products so the whip cracker goes to the wall as well and hey presto here we are with countries that can no longer generate sustainable tax revenue because nobody is earning anything,

Now the second part about investing shows you just how close this world came to being a great place, when the empire was in place all those countries would now be like Singapore and all the other tiger countries, instead they are the toilets of disease and poverty, sometimes someone has to take the bull by the horns and show the others the way, we did this and then allowed Liberal thought to undo it all, and now it looks like a price is going to have to be paid.

Could've had a world without hunger or homelessness, a world where nobody gets left behind, but man ensured that can't happen and sadly man is about ready to quote Churchill all over again, because he's basically a THICK C1_1NT.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:35 am 
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So Doom, all said and done, it's a sort of End of Days - scenario. :shock: You might be right. I was sort of holding out for something better. :shock:


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 2:19 am 
So am I, but as you said previously hyper inflation etc etc, all this was 1920's Germany and look what happened next, Angela is a Hitler/Thatcher hybrid, and there's nothing finer to turn a sanctuary into a boxing ring than money and whose taken what from who and not paid back whats owed,

The west was told last week not to poke it's long nose into Syria, so what does Cameron and Clinton do, defy the largest growing economy and the largest nuke arsenal holders, so in effect to save a few thousand Syrian's who are tribal and wouldn't return the favour we risk having a nuke war on our hands, well done to the hoorahs who won't be fighting in it, nor will they be going hungry, nor will they give a fig about us, and when it's all over we can all be remembered on a November sunday each year where ppl will act like they give a fig about those that will die and forget you just as quick on the next day, my Falklands thread proves that, I personally despise the iPhone generation, me me me me me me, I'm walking here attitude,

I think tbh there is something in what David Ike says about an alien overseer race, there was a doc series about it called Ancient Aliens, just like sheep on a farm we might just be being culled soon given that the world is overpopulated, and that overpop is also causing the problems as well because there simply isn't enough to go around, or at least not enough in circulation,

And there again, my way to sort it is the Chinese way, limit the amount of kids for a few generation's, their way is to annihilate on a mass scale, now you tell me who is the god and who is the devil in all this, the only country that recognised it had a problem and did something about it is the only country where their people aren't forced to join a religion, you could say China will inherit the earth as the bible said the meek will, see them as small people and it could mean David beats Goliath once more.


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doom: What a load of tosh!

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:41 pm 
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I'm getting the feeling you are a bit spooked by all this Doom.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:46 pm 
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Skull wrote:
Someone, help me with this one, as I honestly don't get it? :?

Spanish banks to get up to 100bn euros in rescue loans.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-18382659

Banks, all over the world are over exposed to bad debt and to what extent, is anyone's guess. The only thing we seem to know, is that the figure is almost incalculable. So what does giving 100bn euros mean exactly? :-?

I don't pretend to be an economist or an accountant or anything of that ilk, so I am more than willing to learn.

Would anyone care to take a stab at their logic? :?


Spain's Rajoy hails bank rescue as 'victory for euro'


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-18385634

Problem solved, and disaster averted.

You think??????? :shock: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 1:47 pm 
Eddie, is it?

Skull, not really I'm of 3 denominations of warrior stock and I know what needs to be done if anarchy prevails to protect and ensure the survival of myself and those closest to me,

And for those having a giggle at that, laugh away, tis you who will be hungry and crying id the Mad Max thing becomes reality not I, if this happens you are looking at New Orleans all over again on a mass scale, worrying about what happened to your savings will be the least of your worries,

Me and Ray Mears will be ok, how about you?


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Playing a game of Poker your sitting with a royal flush, there's a gun at your head if you move to play the hand, do you play the hand :?: YOUR NOT PLAYING THAT HAND :lol: :lol:

Not in my life time or yours Doom, whats from the past we deal with, what's coming in the future, we control, its the way it is, we just live with it and do the best with the cards we are dealt with, life is all about chance and a lot of luck, just live life FFS :wink:

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Playing a game of Poker your sitting with a royal flush, there's a gun at your head if you move to play the hand, do you play the hand :?: YOUR NOT PLAYING THAT HAND :lol: :lol:

Not in my life time or yours Doom, whats from the past we deal with, what's coming in the future, we control, its the way it is, we just live with it and do the best with the cards we are dealt with, life is all about chance and a lot of luck, just live life FFS :wink:


Ah the old, “I'm in control of my own Destiney" trick. I'm afraid not Reggie. Security in life is mostly a superstition. You nor I, know what's coming around the corner, until it comes. Yes, in general, terms we can predict and prepare for the future but there's always that little anomaly, which surprises us all. :shock:

And that's were it all falls down for the conspiracy theorists. They credit those running the system with too much intelligence. That's not to say they won't reap some sort of benefit from it crashing, but I don't think it was their intention to destroy it in the first place. They are now merely taking advantage of a situation which was never really in their control.

There's not an empire in the history of the world that didn't fall at some point. And you can bet your boots, people like you Reggie, believed it would last for ever. :shock: :)

I think the game is now entering its final stages, and economic Armageddon only a matter of time. And what that will mean for the rest of us is anyone's guess. Although, it will get pretty messy before the system is reset and back on track.

You maybe bought that nice new taxi of yours a little too soon. :shock:


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 5:43 pm 
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Spain, is up to its neck, in debt to the tune of, God only knows how much, so what do we do. We give them 100 billion euros. And that money comes from where exactly, well here's the punch line, YOU, the people, all around the world, it's your money because you are the one paying for it.

Debt added to debt added to debt and so on and so forth... :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

It can't go on boys, and if anything the problem is accelerating and there is no going back, it simply can't be solved without an economic collapse engulfing the world. :shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:


These lunatics are taking us into Mad Max territory. I'm starting to believe they really do want to crash the system, and that it's not just down to stupidity or incompetence. :shock:


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 10, 2012 7:22 pm 
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Spain, is up to its neck, in debt to the tune of, God only knows how much, so what do we do. We give them 100 billion euros. And that money comes from where exactly, well here's the punch line, YOU, the people, all around the world, it's your money because you are the one paying for it.


Yes Skull but we earn our money from them in the first place :roll: They generate the wealth, we feed off it, we pay tax on it, yes it goes round and round until we all hopefully benefit from it :roll:

Look at all the resources that make Money Skull, the wee guy in the street doesn't have the know how in how to make mass money from it, they hope that collective brain power does know, then the wee guy makes his money from it.

I don't mind contributing my share Skull, its an insigificant amount of money, you say i have no control but i do, im saving nearly £600 just by stopping Smoking and Driving a vehicle that cost's less to run, this saving is hugely significant to Yes Skull ME :D

Economic troubles Yes and only the wisest will survive but not in an armeggdon way, you really do go extreme, there is too much vested interest, greed and hunger for one man to pull the trigger, Skull google a film from the 80s, it is called End Game :wink:

The last resource is Water but Man still fights over it,as is Human Nature, we adapt, learn to adapt not expect, see life as a privlige to be a part off, i do and im happy to be controlled and also in control, you see all men are equal :wink:

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its systematic rape
to big to fail ma arse
what they really mean is we,re not losing all that power.



fecked over buy basta'rd polititions,and bwankers.


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Spain, is up to its neck, in debt to the tune of, God only knows how much, so what do we do. We give them 100 billion euros. And that money comes from where exactly, well here's the punch line, YOU, the people, all around the world, it's your money because you are the one paying for it.


Yes Skull but we earn our money from them in the first place :roll: They generate the wealth, we feed off it, we pay tax on it, yes it goes round and round until we all hopefully benefit from it :roll:

Look at all the resources that make Money Skull, the wee guy in the street doesn't have the know how in how to make mass money from it, they hope that collective brain power does know, then the wee guy makes his money from it.

I don't mind contributing my share Skull, its an insigificant amount of money, you say i have no control but i do, im saving nearly £600 just by stopping Smoking and Driving a vehicle that cost's less to run, this saving is hugely significant to Yes Skull ME :D

Economic troubles Yes and only the wisest will survive but not in an armeggdon way, you really do go extreme, there is too much vested interest, greed and hunger for one man to pull the trigger, Skull google a film from the 80s, it is called End Game :wink:

The last resource is Water but Man still fights over it,as is Human Nature, we adapt, learn to adapt not expect, see life as a privlige to be a part off, i do and im happy to be controlled and also in control, you see all men are equal :wink:

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