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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 1:49 pm 
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Oh and Dougie, all of this money being printed out of thin air comes out of your pocket. Everything becomes more expensive for the man in the street, while the money in his pocket has less of a value.

This Quantitative Easing (QE) and bailouts are nothing short of theft. And now all the big money is bugging out buying gold and silver, betting on the euro and dollar to fail.

To quote Gerald Celente, "there is no recovery, only a cover-up." :evil:


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 7:43 pm 
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You think ya so clever so what you going to do then????

feed :lol: :lol: :lol:
and live my life
oh and btw im not even sure if there is a better system than what we have.
but at least i know what it is.
if you have ever dabbled in the stocks or currency's you'll have a better understanding of how it works.

Triple PMSL :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
What i do know is The money Markets etc is out of my league, i see it all as insigniicant to me as an individual, What is significant to me is my Family circle, if i wanted to be money driven then i would have went down that road LIKE my brother, a million pounds is nothing to him and he is driven to make his next milion but i know what makes him really happy is taking kids of the street and teaching them to Box.

If you and Skull want to spend your time filling your head with a lot of insignificant economic political stuff, its your life, everyone to their own, im happy as i am, im at the level of comfort, i wont starve.

I like the debate though and do know enough to keep an eye on what could affect me, i keep my talk clean though but guy's like you who use words like idiot just show me signs of weaknesses, not worth getting involved with. :wink:

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:04 pm 
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if strong words like idiot offends i doubt you'll survive dougie
anyway you seem to think we are immune in this country trust me when the rugs pulled it'll be a ghost town in a heart beat it doesnt take years its just emptied overnight.
only useful needed services will survive
guess what taxi driving ain't gonna be up there on that list :sad:


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:42 pm 
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just out of interest Dougie who's your brother :lol:
maybe he can spare me that mill that means nothing to him :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:51 pm 
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Oh and Dougie, all of this money being printed out of thin air comes out of your pocket. Everything becomes more expensive for the man in the street, while the money in his pocket has less of a value.

This Quantitative Easing (QE) and bailouts are nothing short of theft. And now all the big money is bugging out buying gold and silver, betting on the euro and dollar to fail.

To quote Gerald Celente, "there is no recovery, only a cover-up." :evil:


Its all outwith our control Skull, what will be will, if my standard of living goes back pre-80s then so be it, it will be the same for the majority, you know the money i earn in a day is to pay my bills and put food on my table, the money i earn is significantly more than someone from Africa but the objective is the same, puting food on the table is all you can do, anything else is a bonus of the system we operate in, the one thing we do share though is the reward in puting that roof over our head and eating the food thats on the table, if i can provide extra i will.

Quantitative easing yes is money plucked out of thin air and trust me it wont be paid back in our lifetime, after the 2nd world war America lent Great Britain a serious amount of Money, its just been paid back 60+ years later, so if there is Quantitative easing going on now then it will forevermore, Skull its all outwith our control, live and deal with what is in your control, if you wanted to be some big shot economist then maybe in another lifetime eh, you do believe you will rise again don't you :roll:









I DON'T :lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:57 pm 
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Private Reggie wrote:
ALI T wrote:
wizzkid wrote:
You think ya so clever so what you going to do then????

feed :lol: :lol: :lol:
and live my life
oh and btw im not even sure if there is a better system than what we have.
but at least i know what it is.
if you have ever dabbled in the stocks or currency's you'll have a better understanding of how it works.

Triple PMSL :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
What i do know is The money Markets etc is out of my league, i see it all as insigniicant to me as an individual, What is significant to me is my Family circle, if i wanted to be money driven then i would have went down that road LIKE my brother, a million pounds is nothing to him and he is driven to make his next milion but i know what makes him really happy is taking kids of the street and teaching them to Box.

If you and Skull want to spend your time filling your head with a lot of insignificant economic political stuff, its your life, everyone to their own, im happy as i am, im at the level of comfort, i wont starve.

I like the debate though and do know enough to keep an eye on what could affect me, i keep my talk clean though but guy's like you who use words like idiot just show me signs of weaknesses, not worth getting involved with. :wink:


Dougie, in the Great Depression of the 1930's people like your brother had their wealth virtually wiped out over night. The situation at the moment, for all intents and purposes, is far worse and its Global. Think, hyper inflation runs on banks and the collapse of the monetary system in its present form.

For every dollar or euro pumped into the system. It has to be paid back with interest. This is never going to happen. The banks are so over exposed to bad debt, giving them more debt is only compounding the problem. It's like trying to put out a fire that's burning out of control with petrol. :shock:

Sooner or later it's game over. Money becomes worthless. This is not a prediction but a mathematical certainty. And the biggest mistake you can make is to think it can't happen, and that your brother's money is safe because it's in a bank. :-|


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 8:58 pm 
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ALI T wrote:
just out of interest Dougie who's your brother :lol:
maybe he can spare me that mill that means nothing to him :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Making a Mill is a thrill, a buzz, its like a drug, you make one then two, hey i thought you knew How the system worked :roll: :roll: :roll:

You say dealing in stocks and currencey gives you an understanding of how the system works :?:

I'll keep my insignificant amount of savings away from there then :wink:

Did you use your carpetbagged funds to buy stocks and currency :?:

Hope you didn't buy in to Euros around the time that TIE did and hey how long did the ar-e hold out before you traded them back in :?:

I bet your in and out in weeks 8) 8) Go on the RBS shares are going for a good price :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:06 pm 
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Skull the mortgage rate is half a percent, China has just cut its international rate by Half a percent, The big boys lending on bonds are dealing in 1/4 percents and even lower.

You can have 10% of £100 =£10
You can have 1% of £1000 =£10

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Simple arithmatic my son Simple arithmatic :roll:

You say i don't know how it works :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Oh and Dougie, all of this money being printed out of thin air comes out of your pocket. Everything becomes more expensive for the man in the street, while the money in his pocket has less of a value.

This Quantitative Easing (QE) and bailouts are nothing short of theft. And now all the big money is bugging out buying gold and silver, betting on the euro and dollar to fail.

To quote Gerald Celente, "there is no recovery, only a cover-up." :evil:


Its all outwith our control Skull, what will be will, if my standard of living goes back pre-80s then so be it, it will be the same for the majority, you know the money i earn in a day is to pay my bills and put food on my table, the money i earn is significantly more than someone from Africa but the objective is the same, puting food on the table is all you can do, anything else is a bonus of the system we operate in, the one thing we do share though is the reward in puting that roof over our head and eating the food thats on the table, if i can provide extra i will.

Quantitative easing yes is money plucked out of thin air and trust me it wont be paid back in our lifetime, after the 2nd world war America lent Great Britain a serious amount of Money, its just been paid back 60+ years later, so if there is Quantitative easing going on now then it will forevermore, Skull its all outwith our control, live and deal with what is in your control, if you wanted to be some big shot economist then maybe in another lifetime eh, you do believe you will rise again don't you :roll:



I DON'T :lol: :lol: :lol:



Dougie, you truly are a muppet. What don't you understand about hyper inflation and money being made worthless? #-o


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 11, 2012 9:15 pm 
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Private Reggie wrote:
Skull the mortgage rate is half a percent, China has just cut its international rate by Half a percent, The big boys lending on bonds are dealing in 1/4 percents and even lower.

You can have 10% of £100 =£10
You can have 1% of £1000 =£10

:wink:

Simple arithmatic my son Simple arithmatic :roll:

You say i don't know how it works :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


You are a fecking head-case. Oh and "Arithmatic" is Arithmetic, and the only thing that's simple around here, is you. #-o


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Hyper inflation and money being made Worthless, now who's the headcase :lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh i remember interests rates being 15% (your predicting much worse), high prices an aw but all that happens is wages go up, yes there will be higher un-employment (affecting shelf fillers etc) like the early 80s but thats what i said previously, (pre- 80s) ya bigger muppet, hey come to think of it you look like a muppet :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hey Mr Goldman Sachs economic extrordinaire its a pleasure being Normal and my spelling is not that great either, ah the real world you really should join us 8) OK AliT is welcome too if he is willing to come out of his financial/political screw everybody bubble :wink:

Using your theory Ali's bubble is also about to burst :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Hyper inflation and money being made Worthless, now who's the headcase :lol: :lol: :lol:

Oh i remember interests rates being 15% (your predicting much worse), high prices an aw but all that happens is wages go up, yes there will be higher un-employment (affecting shelf fillers etc) like the early 80s but thats what i said previously, (pre- 80s) ya bigger muppet, hey come to think of it you look like a muppet :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Hey Mr Goldman Sachs economic extrordinaire its a pleasure being Normal and my spelling is not that great either, ah the real world you really should join us 8) OK AliT is welcome too if he is willing to come out of his financial/political screw everybody bubble :wink:

Using your theory Ali's bubble is also about to burst :lol: :lol: :lol:



Where do you get this, pre the 80s from? The world has seen nothing like this before in its history, even the Great Depression of the 1930s pales into insignificance.

You simply don't get it, do you Dougie?

People at the highest level of the game, are now coming out and saying that the economic system is staring into the abyss. And that governments around the world are simply lying to their people because the situation is so far out of control, they don't know what to do about it.

Dougie, it's as simple as me, giving you a credit card and expecting you to pay me, back with interest, but you can't do it, so I give you another card and another and another, knowing that I will never see one penny. There comes a point where I can no longer give you anymore credit, and you have nothing to spend, and you can't go anywhere else to get credit - the system goes belly up.

The 80s, where do you get this shi*e? #-o


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The ‘American Dream’ Is a Myth: Joseph Stiglitz on ‘The Price of Inequality’



Income inequality has become the subject of much debate in this country, in large part because of the Occupy Wall Street movement.

In his latest book, The Price of Inequality, Columbia Professor and Nobel laureate Joseph Stiglitz examines the causes of income inequality and offers some remedies. In between, he reaches some startling conclusions, including that America is "no longer the land of opportunity" and "the 'American dream' is a myth."

While we all know stories of people who've moved up the social stratosphere, Stiglitz says the statistics tell a very different story. In the last 30 years the share of national income held by the top 1% of Americans has doubled; for to the top 0.1%, their share has tripled, he reports. Meanwhile, median incomes for American workers have stagnated.

Even more than income inequality, "America has the least equality of opportunity of any of the advanced industrial economies," Stiglitz says. In short, the status you're born into — whether rich or poor — is more likely to be the status of your adult life in America vs. any other advanced economy, including 'Old Europe'.

For example, just 8% of students at America's elite universities come from households in the bottom 50% of income, Stiglitz says, even as those universities are "needs blind" — meaning admission isn't predicated on your ability to pay.

"There's not much mobility up and down," he says. "The chances of someone from the top [income bracket] who doesn't do very well in school are better than someone from the bottom who does well in school."

Because the children of those at the top of society tend to do better than those at the bottom — thanks, in part, to better education, health care and nutrition — the income inequality that's slowly emerged over the past 30 years will only widen in the next 10 to 20 years.

If the root causes of income inequality go unaddressed, America will truly become a two-class society and look much more like a third world economy, Stiglitz warns. "People will live in gated communities with armed guards. It's a ugly picture. There will be political, social and economic turmoil." (Hence the book's subtitle: 'How Today's Divided Society Endangers Our Future')

The good news is Stiglitz believes this "nightmare we're slowly marching toward" can be avoided, citing Brazil's experience since the early 1990s as an example of a country that has reduced income inequality. Among other things, he recommends improving education and nutrition for those at the bottom of society, and eliminating "corporate welfare" and other policies which "create wealth but not economic growth."

For example, he cites the provision in Medicare Part D which forbids the federal government from negotiating prices with the drug companies. Over 10 years, that rule will generate approximately $500 billion for the industry, he estimates, but no tangible benefit for taxpayers or the economy as a whole.

Importantly, Stiglitz believes inequality of wealth and opportunity are hurting the overall economy, by limiting competition, promoting cronyism and keeping those at the bottom from reaching their potential.

"What I want is a more dynamic economy and a fairer society," he says, suggesting income inequality is ultimately detrimental to those at the top, too. "My point is we've created an economy that is not in accord with the principles of the free market."

Aaron Task is the host of The Daily Ticker. You can follow him on Twitter at @aarontask or email him at altask@yahoo.com

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