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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:36 pm 
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Christ Gusmac, you believe in all of this Brave Heart Proud to be Scottish the best small country in the world nonsense.

Vote Alec Salmond, Vote Independence, Vote SNP, God is great.

America, America land of the free home home of the brave, Vote Obama.

Allah, Allah, Allah let's prey to the prophet Muhammad and when you blow yourself up you will get 40 virgins.

Do you see a theme developing here? #-o And you wonder why the world is FUC*ED #-o


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=en ... V1lZMTCqf8


Let me guess...you wouldn't be so paranoid if everyone wasn't out to get you. :shock:

Skull get some help. Soon.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2012 10:39 pm 
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2. change your supplier that is really bad stuff


The world is fekked, he has to make do with whatever he can get :wink:

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 12:00 am 
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gusmac wrote:
MR T wrote:
2. change your supplier that is really bad stuff


The world is fekked, he has to make do with whatever he can get :wink:



Trevor,(Uncle Tom) uses people like you, so he can cozy up to politicians. He helps you, and you give him your support because he's a great guy, totally selfless. It has nothing to do with Trevor helping you to help himself. #-o

It's just that, Trevor knows how the game is played and the minions don't really have a clue. :-|

You see Gusmac, what you vote for is a system with a top-down power structure that has little or no bottom-up accountability to its people. You are effectively allowing the Alec Salmond's of this world, to do what the fu*k they like. And after they have your vote, you've served your purpose and just like Trevor, they now have new friends to look after with lots of power and wealth and all they have do, is to keep ar*holes like believing that you matter and they give a fu*k. #-o

That's your system right there Gusmac, it's not rocket science is it? #-o

And you think, you are voting for a better Scotland, for real change. #-o

Don't make me laugh, now do yourself a favour, wake-up or shut the fu*k up, because the truth is, you haven't a clue how the system works.

You are officially one of its sheeple. #-o


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I'm well aware of what Trevor is, and i've said so on many occasions.

And what are you skull? The guy who knows it all. Yeah right. :roll:
A legend in your own dole queue.

You know nothing. Just another bitter crackpot spouting schecht all over a forum.
A forum thats aimed at a trade you effectively sacked yourself from.

Get help skull.

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skull ..... everyone has the right to the freedom of thought, and the right to their opinions, and they have the right to express them, they also have the right to vote, which I totally agree with, my opinion is obviously different to some, but I still have the right to my opinion, if I wanted to take advantage of people I wouldn't express to the trade on how to take their views forward, I wouldn't tell them to learn the systems, as this would educate the opposition, as for fame, I will leave that to you, it's not something that is important to me, try the stuff from Jamaica....

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 2:09 am 
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gusmac wrote:
I'm well aware of what Trevor is, and i've said so on many occasions.

And what are you skull? The guy who knows it all. Yeah right. :roll:
A legend in your own dole queue.

You know nothing. Just another bitter crackpot spouting schecht all over a forum.
A forum thats aimed at a trade you effectively sacked yourself from.

Get help skull.


Okay then, you tell me, how the system works and how everyone in Scotland is going to benefit?
Your vote is going to change everything isn't that right, suddenly, government will become transparent, open for public scrutiny, and politicians will be made directly accountable to their electorate?

And what about all those wealthy bankers and powerful businessmen, they simply won't matter anymore?

Alec Salmond is going to put the people of Scotland first, isn't that right Gusmac?

This is what you are telling me, because if it's not, then what are you voting for, if not more of the same?

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“Just another bitter crackpot spouting schecht all over a forum.”

Well tell me, where I have it wrong? How will the system change under Scottish Independence to one that truly represent the people of Scotland?

Are Scott's politicians going to become altruistic all of a sudden ?

I think you are a dreamer Gusmac, that has little or no clue how the system really works, but feel free to explain where I have it wrong?

Informed, yes, bitter and twisted, no, capable of thinking for oneself, most definitely. :wink:


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Skull fit ye been doing since ye stop being a driver, apart fae browsing the net looking for doomsday stories?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 8:58 am 
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Okay then, you tell me, how the system works and how everyone in Scotland is going to benefit?
Your vote is going to change everything isn't that right, suddenly, government will become transparent, open for public scrutiny, and politicians will be made directly accountable to their electorate?

And what about all those wealthy bankers and powerful businessmen, they simply won't matter anymore?

Alec Salmond is going to put the people of Scotland first, isn't that right Gusmac?

This is what you are telling me, because if it's not, then what are you voting for, if not more of the same?

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“Just another bitter crackpot spouting schecht all over a forum.”

Well tell me, where I have it wrong? How will the system change under Scottish Independence to one that truly represent the people of Scotland?

Are Scott's politicians going to become altruistic all of a sudden ?

I think you are a dreamer Gusmac, that has little or no clue how the system really works, but feel free to explain where I have it wrong?

Informed, yes, bitter and twisted, no, capable of thinking for oneself, most definitely. :wink:


Just as soon as you tell me how refusing to vote is going to change a damned thing.

Are the politicians suddenly going to roll over, admit they are a shower of shecht, and meekly relinquish power to the altruistic masses who are all at home watching EastEnders Street and Big Brother x factor?

Are those rich and powerful capitalist scumbags that really run everything just going to walk away?

Where is your altruistic unelected government going to come from?
El Presidente Skull Thomson, here's your chance to practice some of that transparency you preach.

BTW, I think this is yours.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:05 am 
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Sadly, I agree with Gary and of course Gus to a degree.

Politicians have little control, the control is in the hands of the people with the money.

Voting for a particular political party, unless they are totally radical will not have any affect in anything. But voting, unless there is a revolution, is perhaps the only chance the wider public has.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:08 am 
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Skull fit ye been doing since ye stop being a driver, apart fae browsing the net looking for doomsday stories?


Boring the local Job Centre staff and the regulars down his boozer with tales of how he didn't bend over for the man, how he really showed the shower of schecht and how come the glorious day he'll put them all against a wall and shoot them. :roll:

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:12 am 
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Sadly, I agree with Gary and of course Gus to a degree.

Politicians have little control, the control is in the hands of the people with the money.

Voting for a particular political party, unless they are totally radical will not have any affect in anything. But voting, unless there is a revolution, is perhaps the only chance the wider public has.


Now we're getting there, eh Gary.

People's republic of Scotland anyone?

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 9:18 am 
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gusmac wrote:

Now we're getting there, eh Gary.

People's republic of Scotland anyone?



I reckon you'd go for that Gus.....provided it was run by Scots :lol:

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Now we're getting there, eh Gary.

People's republic of Scotland anyone?



I reckon you'd go for that Gus.....provided it was run by Scots :lol:


Depends which ones.......comrade
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gusmac wrote:

Depends which ones.......comrade
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


Well dont ask me.....I'll be too busy packing my father in law's suitcase and sending him back across the border :lol:

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2012 11:14 am 
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Just as soon as you tell me how refusing to vote is going to change a damned thing.

Are the politicians suddenly going to roll over, admit they are a shower of shecht, and meekly relinquish power to the altruistic masses who are all at home watching EastEnders Street and Big Brother x factor?

Are those rich and powerful capitalist scumbags that really run everything just going to walk away?

Where is your altruistic unelected government going to come from?
El Presidente Skull Thomson, here's your chance to practice some of that transparency you preach.

BTW, I think this is yours.



Voting is simply an endorsement that the system in its present form, works. It changes nothing. Think about the Arab Spring and how the people woke-up and took to the streets in a bid to bring “Democracy” to the people. Unfortunately, what they are about to learn is that giving something a name like, “Democracy” and allowing people to vote, doesn't make it so.

When you vote for politicians or political parties, you vote for a system. If the mechanism is not in place to deliver what is in the public interest, you don't have a Democracy, what you have is an elected dictatorship.

Politicians are merely puppets put there by the system to present the public with the illusion of choice, while keeping the public in check. What you are really voting for is a political class that represents its own interests and that of big business.

Oh and Gusmac, the reason I don't vote, is because sheeple like you do. Real change almost always comes as a consequence of social education upheaval and disorder. And that only happens when people wake-up to the fact the system doesn't work in their interests, and they are being screwed over.

A refusal to vote is every bit a political statement as voting. You are happy to vote and accept their elected diktat and that nothing will change. I am not. This country doesn't need more sheeple going to the polls.

It needs people who can think for themselves. :-|


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