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Council sticks to ‘hail and ride’ cab limit of 283 in Southampton


Taxi numbers capped as cabbies struggle in recession


THERE will be no increase in taxis on Southampton’s city streets – after cabbies said more competition would ruin their livelihoods.

Cabbies, who complained to councillors about already overflowing ranks from a lack of work, feared even more taxis will make it even harder for them to make ends meet.

Councillors agreed to follow the recommendations of a once in three-year review by transport consultants and keep the number of hail and ride cabs in the city capped at 283.

Clive Johnson, chairman of the Southampton Trade Association, which has around 450 members including 100 Hackney Carriage drivers, welcomed the decision.

“It was inevitable really. At the present moment in time we’ve got taxi drivers being booked for parking at the end of ranks because we’ve nowhere to go. There is no work out there.”

Consultants Halcrow, who were paid £15,000 to carry out the survey, found sufficient taxis were “generally available” in the city although there was a need for more wheelchair friendly cabs.

Only one third of those surveyed felt the taxi service could be improved, but nearly half thought fares should be cheaper. Nearly half the cabbies surveyed said they would leave the trade if more licences were issued, and 84 per cent said they wanted additional and longer ranks.


Clive Johnson, chairman of the Southampton Trade Association.

Ian Hall, chairman of the Southampton Hackney Association, told councillors there were only 15 24-hour taxi ranks in the city with spaces for 73 taxis, leaving a shortfall of 210 spaces. He added the council had shortened the ranks in recent years.

Despite opposition from the trade, three years ago the council agreed to issue 20 more lucrative taxi licences - worth up to £35,000 on the open market – in a controversial secret lottery exposed by the Daily Echo.


Perry McMillan from the Unite union

Perry McMillan, from the Southampton taxi section of the Unite union, said: “This survey confirms what we’ve been saying all along. We feel the decision three years ago to ignore our pleas has caused a lot of hardship for the trade. And the timing of the (latest) survey, before the last eight new plates went on in December, shows we didn’t need them.”

The survey also found more permits should be issued for taxis to work the docks, and that more needed to be done to improve access and reduce congestion.

Docks owners ABP signed an agreement with the council three years ago to issue permits and enforce standards after concerns about scruffy drivers, cherry picking of fares, and allegations of overcharging. The permits cost £63.

But the decision could be challenged as under Government guidelines Southampton City Council must show that retaining a limit on the number of taxis in the city benefits customers.

One Conservative councillor, Brian Parnell, questioned whether the city should remain closed shop to new cabbies.

The number of licensed private hire vehicles - around 550 - is not limited.

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/9766212 ... on/?ref=nt

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

I'd call that a result

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Note to self: Just because it pops into my head does NOT mean it should come out of my mouth!!

That's just bullshit.

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experience tells a different story more badges issued people tough it out hoping the other guys jack first

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lack of modern legislation is the iceberg sinking the titanic of the transport sector

Obviously, nobody is going to jack it in just because there are more licenses issued, it's as Edders said

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Note to self: Just because it pops into my head does NOT mean it should come out of my mouth!!

Now we all know that's utter rubbish, so why didn't Halcrow put into their report that the trade has never lost 50% of it's drivers following delimitation (although a restricted London PH trade are doing it's best to meet that target).

Maybe it's because all the time we have taxi quotas, leeches like Halcrow will spin their webs of deceit.

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IDFIMH

well they have to justify their fees somehow !

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lack of modern legislation is the iceberg sinking the titanic of the transport sector

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Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that.
George Carlin

Who is we.?

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Justice for the 96. It has only taken 27 years...........repeat the same lies for 27 years and the truth sounds strange to people!

And it's not will leave the trade, it's will have to leave the trade,

They're pretty good over at Southampton tbh, they gave the railway a bloody nose over the permit's, all stuck together and told them to shove it and ranked across the road on public land, and that doesn't happen often does it,

Now they need to get Checker Cars out of Eastleigh Airport as well and get a rank re-established, even if they can't use it it will give the Eastleigh boys something to do and keep them out of the city area.

In what way are the London PH trade restricted?

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Kind regards,

Brummie Cabbie.

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Disagree with other members' views;
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When debating on the TDO Forum.

Surely you aren't in the gang that says 50% of taxi drivers will leave the trade following delimitation?

Has it ever happen in the 75% of councils that don't restrict?

And if it did, then I suspect the other 50% will be jumping for joy.

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IDFIMH

They're not, I meant unrestricted.

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IDFIMH

That's make two in the gang now.

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IDFIMH

Wait and see, you'll lose 50%, gain 200%, but the 200% you gain will effectively be dole driver's claiming legal benefit's as wages, you won't be able to compete anymore and the trade in general will become a master and slave thing, if it hasn't already.