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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 4:57 pm 
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I think I would ask your LO how he intends to deal with the problem of your road tax ... considering this is also social and domestic.... and how you will be able to tax your vehicle without the appropriate insurance.....


we used to have Hackney Road tax which was approximately half the rate we pay now, but the Government recognised that our vehicles were being used for social and domestic and changed the rate, going from your home to where you start your work... is classed as social and domestic.... and then when you finish.... the journey home is the same.....

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:03 pm 
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There rules could be made into a comedy sketch, its almost as good as the one used for Mrs Browns boys :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :lol:

Mr Skippy 41, didn't you know that only licensing officers are used as extras in the Mrs Brown's Boys comedy sketches?

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:04 pm 
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going from your home to where we start our work... is classed as social and domestic.... and then when we finish.... the journey home is the same.....

Actually, I think that would be considered "commuting"

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:07 pm 
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gusmac wrote:
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going from your home to where we start our work... is classed as social and domestic.... and then when we finish.... the journey home is the same.....

Actually, I think that would be considered "commuting"

It may well be ... but let their legal department spend a great deal of time proving it wrong... good solicitor's don't work for councils. :D

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:38 pm 
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I think your LO needs a couple of 100 FoI requests to help him stop acting the tit.

A taxi is always a taxi, and a PH is always a PH, but we ain't always working. Instead of asking drivers etc, why don't they just ask the insurance companies.

Thankfully the LC are proposing binning this silly rule.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 5:48 pm 
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I think your LO needs a couple of 100 FoI requests to help him stop acting the tit.


I have made one or two of those but not a couple of hundred.

Do a search under whatdotheyknow.com for Cannock Chase.

I certainly get the impression that they have too much time on their hands...

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:00 pm 
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In a nutshell then ;

(1) A licensed PH/HC vehicle can only be driven by licensed drivers (or a garage carrying out repairs, and other authorised persons)
(2) The vehicle is only insured whilst working or available for hire (not sure about the commuting/driving to and from work bit), and being driven by a licensed driver,

unless -

(3) The vehicle is also insured with SDP cover,

In which case -

(4) The vehicle must still be driven by a licensed driver regardless of whether or not an unlicensed driver has insurance to drive said vehicle, with the exceptions mentioned in (1).


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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 7:49 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
I think your LO needs a couple of 100 FoI requests to help him stop acting the tit.

A taxi is always a taxi, and a PH is always a PH, but we ain't always working. Instead of asking drivers etc, why don't they just ask the insurance companies.

Thankfully the LC are proposing binning this silly rule.

There used to be a private hire company in Liverpool that always used to have extra licensed vehicles out on the weekend, when they were stopped they were found to be driven by unlicensed drivers ... they're always had the same excuse.... they were the mechanic or car cleaner taking their mates home..... it doesn't happen any more

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 8:40 pm 
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MR T wrote:
Sussex wrote:
I think your LO needs a couple of 100 FoI requests to help him stop acting the tit.

A taxi is always a taxi, and a PH is always a PH, but we ain't always working. Instead of asking drivers etc, why don't they just ask the insurance companies.

Thankfully the LC are proposing binning this silly rule.

There used to be a private hire company in Liverpool that always used to have extra licensed vehicles out on the weekend, when they were stopped they were found to be driven by unlicensed drivers ... they're always had the same excuse.... they were the mechanic or car cleaner taking their mates home..... it doesn't happen any more


There was obviously a public interest element in Yates v Gates 1970 in preventing just the above from occurring. I think that Cannock Chase licensing people have difficulty in understanding the concept of acting in the public interest, hence their interpretation that not even their own licensed drivers should be permitted to drive a licensed vehicle for anything other than hire and reward purposes.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:51 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
Thankfully the LC are proposing binning this silly rule.

It's one rule that should be kept, not binned. It's a charter for illegal Plying.

I'm sure your other half would not dream of working your motor - but up and down the land it happens, and, I suggest you know it happens.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 23, 2012 10:59 pm 
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Chris the Fish wrote:
Sussex wrote:
Thankfully the LC are proposing binning this silly rule.

It's one rule that should be kept, not binned. It's a charter for illegal Plying.

I'm sure your other half would not dream of working your motor - but up and down the land it happens, and, I suggest you know it happens.


I agree. The Law Commission are proposing to make it work by simply reversing the burden of proof but I can't really see how they could do that.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 24, 2012 11:46 pm 
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bloodnock wrote:
You would be hard pushed to find a policy without SDP written into it, You can drive a PC or a hack without wearing your badge for your own use or unpaid use...you can even drive clients without wearing your badge, just don't expect to get paid though as they have the right not to pay if your daft enough to be caught badgeless.

Is Cannock Chase some kind of off shore dependency that does'nt need to conform to mainland law.


cannock chase also has a draconian age exemption once a hack is 6 years old, i know one that failed cos his car boot liner was scuffed...

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what happens if we are on holiday and im taken ill or involved in a fall down the steps to the beach and cant drive home, i have no breakdown cover, and the wife isnt badged

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wannabeeahack wrote:
what happens if we are on holiday and im taken ill or involved in a fall down the steps to the beach and cant drive home, i have no breakdown cover, and the wife isnt badged

what happens if you're on holiday abroad and the airline company goes bust..... you just have to deal with it

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 25, 2012 6:37 am 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
what happens if we are on holiday and im taken ill or involved in a fall down the steps to the beach and cant drive home, i have no breakdown cover, and the wife isnt badged

Simple, your wife gets the bus back to your hotel and continues to enjoy her holiday whilst you are left at the bottom of the steps with a broken leg. :mrgreen:

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