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 Post subject: tarriff changes
PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:20 pm 
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Hi all, does anyone know the legallity of having a price increase imposed on us by the council. Basically our council wants to increase our tarriffs, i personally dont want the increase for varying reasons, so if the increase does go ahead, as it is in the hands of the traffic commisioner just now, could i refuse to get my meter rechipped and then legally ply for hire with the existing tarriff? I know that i could charge fixed fares if in aggreement with passengers if so desired , but i would have the effect of undercharging if i kept existing tarriff. What laws govern fare increases, if any.Thanks all :D


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 Post subject: Re: tarriff changes
PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:08 pm 
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tallscotsman wrote:
Hi all, does anyone know the legallity of having a price increase imposed on us by the council. Basically our council wants to increase our tarriffs, i personally dont want the increase for varying reasons, so if the increase does go ahead, as it is in the hands of the traffic commisioner just now, could i refuse to get my meter rechipped and then legally ply for hire with the existing tarriff? I know that i could charge fixed fares if in aggreement with passengers if so desired , but i would have the effect of undercharging if i kept existing tarriff. What laws govern fare increases, if any.Thanks all :D


Operating with a tariff on your meter which is not approved by the council is a breach of your licence conditions.
Your meter must be used at all times except when the hire begins or ends outside your licensed area (which I'm assuming is Dundee City). You can charge less than the meter but not more.

BTW why don't you want the increase?

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 Post subject: Re: tarriff changes
PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:15 pm 
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thanks gus, well not enough punters for a starter ( and yes it is dundee), and i feel an increase at this time is detrimental to our trade, besides, our proposed increases, have our fares starting and increasing in coppers, which doesnt really look professional for an up and coming city lol :badgrin: surely if we were to have an increase at least go up in increments of 5p or 10p :oops:


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 Post subject: Re: tarriff changes
PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:15 pm 
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http://taxi-driver.co.uk/files/1982act.pdf section 17 & 18

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 Post subject: Re: tarriff changes
PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:21 pm 
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tallscotsman wrote:
thanks gus, well not enough punters for a starter ( and yes it is dundee), and i feel an increase at this time is detrimental to our trade, besides, our proposed increases, have our fares starting and increasing in coppers, which doesnt really look professional for an up and coming city lol :badgrin: surely if we were to have an increase at least go up in increments of 5p or 10p :oops:


TBH, not increasing fares does no good. We did it here for 3 years and it made no difference.
It just means you need a bigger rise when you do eventually get one. People moan at first but they soon forget.

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 Post subject: Re: tarriff changes
PostPosted: Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:35 pm 
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tallscotsman wrote:
Hi all, does anyone know the legallity of having a price increase imposed on us by the council. Basically our council wants to increase our tarriffs, i personally dont want the increase for varying reasons, so if the increase does go ahead, as it is in the hands of the traffic commisioner just now, could i refuse to get my meter rechipped and then legally ply for hire with the existing tarriff? I know that i could charge fixed fares if in aggreement with passengers if so desired , but i would have the effect of undercharging if i kept existing tarriff. What laws govern fare increases, if any.Thanks all :D

I think a council can mandate you to have the approved tariff fitting to your meter, but as you say can't mandate you charge it.

Put your objections to the Traffic Commissioner, but I suspect many will be supporting the increase.

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 Post subject: Re: tarriff changes
PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:17 am 
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Just put the new tariff on the meter, run the meter when a fare gets in, and discount, thats what I do.
If you work for yourself get some cards printed I give discounts off all fares over £3.00 up to a pound off the fare, until midnight so a £4.00 fare becomes £3.00 :D :D :D


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 Post subject: Re: tarriff changes
PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:58 am 
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skippy41 wrote:
Just put the new tariff on the meter, run the meter when a fare gets in, and discount, thats what I do.
If you work for yourself get some cards printed I give discounts off all fares over £3.00 up to a pound off the fare, until midnight so a £4.00 fare becomes £3.00 :D :D :D


Which will keep you busy for a couple of weeks until other guys follow suit. It will attract all the junkies and low life to your cab.
It will also make you as popular as a fart in a spacesuit with the rest of the trade.

They must be civilised in Gala Skippy. Around here you'd get fed up buying tyres! :shock: :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: tarriff changes
PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:02 pm 
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gusmac wrote:
skippy41 wrote:
Just put the new tariff on the meter, run the meter when a fare gets in, and discount, thats what I do.
If you work for yourself get some cards printed I give discounts off all fares over £3.00 up to a pound off the fare, until midnight so a £4.00 fare becomes £3.00 :D :D :D


Which will keep you busy for a couple of weeks until other guys follow suit. It will attract all the junkies and low life to your cab.
It will also make you as popular as a fart in a spacesuit with the rest of the trade.

They must be civilised in Gala Skippy. Around here you'd get fed up buying tyres! :shock: :wink:


If it wasn't for me they would not even have a rank :shock:


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 6:08 pm 
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skippy41 wrote:

If it wasn't for me they would not even have a rank :shock:


Is that the one you painted yourself?

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 Post subject: Re: tarriff changes
PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:00 pm 
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Ok thanks guys for the response, and yes i do work for myself. Once again many thanks guys :-|


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 Post subject: Re: tariff changes
PostPosted: Wed Jun 27, 2012 9:16 pm 
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As far as I know, the Price displayed on the Meter is the maximum that can be charged.

There would be nothing to stop you putting a sign in the window, stating that you will be offering a 20% Discount on the Metered Fare.

More fool you.

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 Post subject: Re: tarriff changes
PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:12 am 
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See R v Liverpool City Council ex parte Curzon Ltd (1993). It is quite legal to have a taxi meter which displays a lower fare.


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 Post subject: Re: tarriff changes
PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:14 am 
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Blueknight wrote:
See R v Liverpool City Council ex parte Curzon Ltd (1993). It is quite legal to have a taxi meter which displays a lower fare.

Not in Scotland. :P

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 Post subject: Re: tarriff changes
PostPosted: Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:59 am 
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skippy41 wrote:
Just put the new tariff on the meter, run the meter when a fare gets in, and discount, thats what I do.
If you work for yourself get some cards printed I give discounts off all fares over £3.00 up to a pound off the fare, until midnight so a £4.00 fare becomes £3.00 :D :D :D



And your £1 profit becomes a big fat zero profit... eusasmiles.zip

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