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Milner was poor last night but against France I thought he looked very good

I thought milner was poor in the group games but last night played well......I was very suprised they brought him off instead of Ashley Young....who had a terrible tournement

Nope, not avin it,

Rooney got no service, the reason he got no service is because Gerrard was obviously not match fit,

Can you tell me who should be England manager, not that twitchy t*** that bankrupts every club he goes to surely? whose success is due to having a 40 man squad of foreign international's, Hodge was a good choice, he had limited time to assemble and bond a squad, he had the balls to change it about and still made the quarters, he unlike other's didn't leave the youngsters out, Milner was poor last night but against France I thought he looked very good,

Now this strength in numbers thing, are you telling me out of the population of Wales you can't find a squad of 30 good players, nevermind the millions bit, 30 ppl who can play football, I'd expect to dig out 30 good ones in London let alone a country,

Giggs, Speed left him out because he was ageing, iirc Giggs actually retired and was asked back in again, when Giggs was young Wales had absolutely nothing to play with him, John Charles came from another era, you can't compare the two, John Charles played when players still got lashed up on a friday night, Giggs plays in the era of pasta diets and lots of sleep, if John Charles was a 24 yr old today he wouldn't stand a chance, in his day you could put both ball and keeper in the net so he'd be constantly offside or sent off, Giggs if you time warped him back to JC's era would also fail, someone would break his leg simply for being too flash and the weight of the ball would negate any zippy crosses after a mazy run down the line,

Basically some football fans only see 10% of a game, they don't see the other 90% where Mr Unsung keeps mopping up, or the position's some players get into only for the rest of the team to not be on the same wavelength, I've seen it locally, a first class player made to look ordinary simply because the donkeys around him couldn't keep up,

Welbeck & Carroll could've been more effective if someone in the middle supplied them, Carroll is seen as some sort of failure, but tbh he reminds me of Mark Hateley both physically and presence wise, if he can get out of Liverpool I'm sure the lad will come good again,

See I'll hit you with this one, Chris Coleman, people may say he's no good, but I think otherwise, I think the guy is great but he will need time, he kept Fulham competitive for many seasons as a selling club, then he made the mistake of going to Coventry who have been skint for many years now, you don't need an ego manager, you need someone who gets respected, and Hodge afaik is respected, he certainly is in this house, and that was before he became England manager, Fulham again no money, Liverpool, no chance, even the favorite son can't do anything with that poison challis of a club,

Wales has had a lot of good players over the years, Rush & Aldridge, I used to watch these two play for Chester and Newport County in the 4th division and you could see the quality back then, Savage for all his faults was another great player, you can find them if you look hard enough, all it needs is Swansea,Cardiff and Bristol City to unearth a few out of school and you could end up with a team just like the 70's Scotland one, which was an amazing array of talent..........it's ARCHIE GEMMELL!!! wee Archie scores, they had the lot back then, Gordon McQueen, Willie Donachie, Asa Hartford, Alan Rough, David Narey, Joe Jordan and so on and so on, a team to die for,


Trust me on the balance of things England gave a good account, it might not have been pretty at times but they all showed up willingly and I didn't see one player intentionally dropping his head and not trying, and finally, you try taking a penalty after running flat out for 2 hours, taint easy my good man

Now this strength in numbers thing, are you telling me out of the population of Wales you can't find a squad of 30 good players, nevermind the millions bit, 30 ppl who can play football, I'd expect to dig out 30 good ones in London let alone a country,

when Giggs was young Wales had absolutely nothing to play with him,

John Charles came from another era, you can't compare the two, John Charles played when players still got lashed up on a friday night, Giggs plays in the era of pasta diets and lots of sleep, if John Charles was a 24 yr old today he wouldn't stand a chance, in his day you could put both ball and keeper in the net so he'd be constantly offside or sent off,

Trust me on the balance of things England gave a good account,

If I remember correctly, Hodgson claimed Rooney (in training) was looking sharp,fit, and raring to go - so what went wrong? He was as lifeless as a wet sponge and quite frankly I would not pay him in washers - another player just like Giggs who can only turn it on for his own team because the tactics and formation suit them.

spain Portugal so rivetting that I fell asleep during the second half !

Nice to see Chritiano was so full of himself he wanted to take the last penalty Pride comes before a fall eh !

This England team had limited together experience, a new manager and still made the quarter finals, perhaps if Jesus was approached to manage us people might be happier, that way he cam perform his miracles when it isn't going right

You need to read the opinions from the tabloids of fans writing in stating much of what has already been written - I like a person who speaks his mind, but you do appear to be in a minority.

They had 4 years of preparation just like everyone else - unfortunately they could not learn how to pass the ball in those 4 years - they even gave them the same football shirts as each other - just to give them a clue!!!!!!!

The biggest problem that they face and this I have witnessed in other sports (Welsh rugby is one) - is speed of thought/intelligence!! You may be able to sprint/move as fast as your opponent physically! but if your mental speed/thoughts are not up to it - then you are stuffed.

You can go back a lot of years (and I mean a lot of years), and it was Spurs who were talking about bringing Dutch coaches in to teach ball skills - and we have still to acquire anything resembling what the Continentals/Latins can do. They were coached out of the players after winning in 1966 - just not allowed - the price has been paid for close on 46 years - and people have still not learnt.

As they has been said for many a year - footballers have never been known for their brains.

All the best John, and I probably won't reply to your next reply, so don't think it's sour grapes cos it isn't, we are just on different levels of judgement and neither of us is going to change the others mind are we