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 Post subject: Re: Just say no
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:35 pm 
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Let me help you Gusmac, what you are voting for if you vote for Independence, is an SNP, vision of what independence might be. Their constitution reads like something out of Alice and Wonderland. It doesn't really mean anything in real terms. This is not a constitution written by the people of Scotland that political parties are sworn to follow, but a Scottish Tory's version of what will be, if you are lucky.

Transparency of Government, public scrutiny, direct accountability, is all missing from their manifesto.

Essentially, you are voting in another polyarchy, an elected dictatorship whose interests are served by a wealthy elite. There is no promise of a political mechanism making politicians directly accountable, to their electorate. No matter how incompetent they are, they won't lose their jobs.

Gusmac, you are proposing to hand Alec Salmond a blank cheque on the promise. He's a good guy.

Read their manifesto, if you don't believe me. :-|


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 Post subject: Re: Just say no
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:46 pm 
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Skull wrote:
So you don't know why you are voting for Independence.


Oh, I know.
You don't and I doubt you ever will.

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Alec Salmond and the SNP, are trying to sell the nation Independence, and you haven't even read their manifesto.

Manifestos are only ever read by political opponents and the media. Oh and sad feks like you with nothing better to do with their time.
If there's anything in there that's surprising, dodgy or controversial you lot will find it.
Saves me hours of effort. :wink:

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You want Independence, you don't know why you want it. You just do. And you have absolutely no idea what it will mean if you get it.


But I do know why I want it. I'm just not wasting my time feeding your OCD. Get over it.


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Well, Gusmac, I can see you've really thought this through. Certainly, no one could accuse you of being thick or ignorant and not living in the real world. #-o
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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Are all Independence supporters as well informed as you? #-o

No, some just like tartan, heather and Irn Bru. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Just say no
PostPosted: Fri Jun 29, 2012 11:50 pm 
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I answered this already, but perhaps you missed it. #-o

Gusmac, this is like a history lesson the people of Iceland played no part in. It's irrelevant. Iceland's new democratic model happened as a consequence of socioeconomic collapse. An educated public said enough was a enough and took control. A public I may add, for the most part, weren't even born between the years of 1918 and 1944. Independence played no part in their new democratic model, but a knowledgeable public did.


So is this your final answer, or would you like to phone a friend?

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Now are you prepared to answer my questions? #-o


About as much as I'm going to. :badgrin:

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 Post subject: Re: Just say no
PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:20 am 
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Gusmac, you have shown yourself up to be a complete idiot when it comes to Independence. The truth is, you are voting for an Alec Salmond, SNP, manifesto version of Independence, and by your own admission, that you haven't even bothered to read.


What an ar*e. #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o

The Truth.

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You are voting for if you vote for Independence, is an SNP, vision of what independence might be. Their constitution reads like something out of Alice and Wonderland. It doesn't really mean anything in real terms. This is not a constitution written by the people of Scotland that political parties are sworn to follow, but a Scottish Tory's version of what will be, if you are lucky.

Transparency of Government, public scrutiny, direct accountability, is all missing from their manifesto.

Essentially, you are voting in another polyarchy, an elected dictatorship whose interests are served by a wealthy elite. There is no promise of a political mechanism making politicians directly accountable, to their electorate. No matter how incompetent they are, they won't lose their jobs.

Gusmac, you are proposing to hand Alec Salmond a blank cheque on the promise. He's a good guy.


Well, at least you know. #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o


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 Post subject: Re: Just say no
PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:23 am 
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So tell everyone Gusmac, why are you voting for Scottish Independence? :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:


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 Post subject: Re: Just say no
PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:25 am 
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Skull wrote:
Gusmac, you have shown yourself up to be a complete idiot when it comes to Independence. The truth is, you are voting for an Alec Salmond, SNP, manifesto version of Independence, and by your own admission, that you haven't even bothered to read.


What an ar*e. #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o

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You are voting for if you vote for Independence, is an SNP, vision of what independence might be. Their constitution reads like something out of Alice and Wonderland. It doesn't really mean anything in real terms. This is not a constitution written by the people of Scotland that political parties are sworn to follow, but a Scottish Tory's version of what will be, if you are lucky.

Transparency of Government, public scrutiny, direct accountability, is all missing from their manifesto.

Essentially, you are voting in another polyarchy, an elected dictatorship whose interests are served by a wealthy elite. There is no promise of a political mechanism making politicians directly accountable, to their electorate. No matter how incompetent they are, they won't lose their jobs.

Gusmac, you are proposing to hand Alec Salmond a blank cheque on the promise. He's a good guy.


Well, at least you know. #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o


TBH, if I wasn't already voting for independence, I would be after reading your tripe. 8)

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 Post subject: Re: Just say no
PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:28 am 
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gusmac wrote:

after reading your tripe. 8)


Does skull keep fish?

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 Post subject: Re: Just say no
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So tell everyone Gusmac, why are you voting for Scottish Independence? :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:


I want to [edited by admin] off all the non-voting, doom-laden, anarchists I can find. :shock:

You'll have to do, I couldn't find any more :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:

I take it you couldn't find a friend then? 8)

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 Post subject: Re: Just say no
PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:29 am 
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after reading your tripe. 8)


Does skull keep fish?


Dunno but my fish tank has a skull in it. :D

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 Post subject: Re: Just say no
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Dunno but my fish tank has a skull in it. :D


Thats sooooo council estate.....we used to have a fish tank as well :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Just say no
PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:36 am 
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Here's another TRUTH gusmac. Alec Salmond just loves sheeple like you. The word is, it's your unquestioning loyalty to the SNP, cause. He knows he can rely on little tartan muppets like you. :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:

Never even read their manifesto, but follows anyway, it's hard to believe. #-o :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Just say no
PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:40 am 
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Here's another TRUTH gusmac. Alec Salmond just loves sheeple like you. The word is, it's your unquestioning loyalty to the SNP, cause. He knows he can rely on little tartan muppets like you. :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:

Never even read their manifesto, but follows anyway, it's hard to believe. #-o :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0WmbbFD_XhQ

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 Post subject: Re: Just say no
PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:45 am 
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gusmac wrote:
Skull wrote:
Here's another TRUTH gusmac. Alec Salmond just loves sheeple like you. The word is, it's your unquestioning loyalty to the SNP, cause. He knows he can rely on little tartan muppets like you. :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:

Never even read their manifesto, but follows anyway, it's hard to believe. #-o :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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I know it's sad, in fact, it's very sad that you don't know what you are voting for, but you plan to do it anyway. #-o :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Nothing like being well informed. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You couldn't make this sort of shi* up. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: Just say no
PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:48 am 
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Skull wrote:
gusmac wrote:
Skull wrote:
Here's another TRUTH gusmac. Alec Salmond just loves sheeple like you. The word is, it's your unquestioning loyalty to the SNP, cause. He knows he can rely on little tartan muppets like you. :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:

Never even read their manifesto, but follows anyway, it's hard to believe. #-o :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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I know it's sad, in fact, it's very sad that you don't know what you are voting for, but you plan to do it anyway. #-o :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Nothing like being well informed. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

You couldn't make this sort of shi* up. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

OCD means having to have the last word....
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 Post subject: Re: Just say no
PostPosted: Sat Jun 30, 2012 12:50 am 
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Come on Gusmac, you have to admit. You've out done yourself this time, MR Manifesto. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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