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PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2005 2:01 pm 
thats better stick the knife in to taxidrivers

the solicitors will sort out the crap!

we realy get into the swing of things.


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As for your factory analogy, surely the more appropriate comparison is that no one is objecting to you opening your own factory?


My neighbours might object

and the bank manager will crap himself

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If their factory was still open and I wanted a job there, and the boss of the factory said he had no vacancies, do I cry foul? do I shout limited market?


And anyway, wouldnt these people be better off buying a PH car and working a PH circuit? why take from my pocket :wink:

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thats better stick the knife in to taxidrivers

the solicitors will sort out the crap!

we realy get into the swing of things.


can you explain that a little?

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I dont necessarily disagree.

A factory up here is closing shortly, so far I understand at least 10 people from the factory have initiated the process to got licenses.

Redundancy money well spent? time will tell.

If they make a rats ass of it, they will leave, if they do well they will survive, in either case the cake size decreases for the rest.

By limiting the permits or gradually increasing them, then surely it doesnt have too much of an adverse effect on people currently in the job.

If their factory was still open and I wanted a job there, and the boss of the factory said he had no vacancies, do I cry foul? do I shout limited market?

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Your analogy is wrong, In the main factories are not limited by statute. Your analogy is more fitting to an owner of a vehicle who already has an additional paying driver. You can substitute the factory for the vehicle, once the vehicle is fully employed then there is no vacancy, once the factory is fully employed there is no vacancy. The difference is, that the person looking for a job at the factory can always go and build or buy his own factory, that is not the case where restricted licenses are concerned. And before you say he can always go and buy a cab and plate, I draw your attention to the fact that that scenario is conditional on a cab and plate being for sale.

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I prefer mine :wink:

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I’ve decided to use my real name


You mean your real name is not "Your local TOA". You do surprise me?

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I’m Derek Cummins and I’m the Chair of the T&G Wirral taxi branch.


What this man really means is I'm Derek Cummins and I regularly misrepresent the facts, I believe you are also the person who describes himself as "Your local TOA". You are also the person who said not giving way to another hackney carriage driver coming out of a side road, is breaking the law.

You also said overtaking another hackney carriage vehicle and picking up a flagger is also breaking the law. Untrue facts Mr "Local TOA".

Mr TOA interpreted a certain section of the 1847 act to fit his own warped concept on etiquette. The fact remains that he published his theory as fact in his own magazine, which he says, is for the professional Taxi trade? If they are expected to believe that nonsense I would call it the Gullible Taxi trade.

I'm sure you being a top man will know the issue number I'm referring to, Mr local TOA. Just in case you don't, a little research won't go ammis.

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and Mark Royden is the Branch Secretary. Firstly I’d like to say that I’m neither a ‘gorraplate’ nor a ‘wannaplate’ but an ‘adderplae’ and certainly don’t want another one, despite my bank manager pleading with me to take £25000 off his hands for a new cab.


Well that’s all fine and Dandy, now can we get down to some real facts here? I don't think many people on this site are particularly interested in your life history.

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Secondly to clear the Mark Royden issue up, Mark was issued a plate under Wirral’s managed growth policy which we are both in favour of.


How unfortunate that Wirral council doesn't share your enthusiasm for a restricted growth policy. Wirral council has implemented their own interpretation of managed growth with the introduction of instant growth and for them it is working just fine. Have you got any words of comfort for the new owners you tried to stop from obtaining a free license? Administration charges excluded, of course.

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but we are totally opposed to the free-for-all of outright delimitation.


Does this mean, as long as councils don't exercise their right to lift numbers you won't intimidate them like you tried to do with Wirral Councillors?

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To state that he’s a wannaplate is misleading.


If Mr Royden didn't wanna plate why did he apply in the first place? There seems to be something lacking in your logic. Either he wanted a plate or he didn't want a plate, considering the fact he got a plate, he must have wanted one in the first place. Or is there some other interpretation you care to put on it? We could do with some light entertainment.

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A case in point is a private hire trade rep that received a plate in the same tranche as Mark Royden, and immediately sold it for £16K; to protect his identity we shall call him Garry Baldi.


Why protect his identity? Its very magnanimous of you Mr "local TOA" but we are not taken in by this pious statement of magnanimity. You allowed this persons name to be plastered all over Taxitalk, in fact you dedicated a full page to Mr. Gari Baldi, didn't you Mr "local TOA" you revelled in exposing the fact that he had sold his plate shortly after it was issued. Your scruples are not worth the paper you wipe your backside on. Are they Mr local TOA?

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There’s an old Liverpool saying that’s sadly fallen out of use, ‘act soft and I’ll buy you a coalyard’


There's an old John Davies saying, "Keep talking, someday you'll say something intelligent".

The rest of the tripe in this post is not worth responding to, only to say that this person who is the Deputy Editor of Taxitalk magazine knows full well what the true plate value is in Manchester and it is not 20K.

You will have to draw your own conclusion as to why he didn't mention the true figure?

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captain cab wrote:
I dont necessarily disagree.

A factory up here is closing shortly, so far I understand at least 10 people from the factory have initiated the process to got licenses.

Redundancy money well spent? time will tell.

If they make a rats ass of it, they will leave, if they do well they will survive, in either case the cake size decreases for the rest.

By limiting the permits or gradually increasing them, then surely it doesnt have too much of an adverse effect on people currently in the job.

If their factory was still open and I wanted a job there, and the boss of the factory said he had no vacancies, do I cry foul? do I shout limited market?

regards

Captain cab


Your analogy is wrong, In the main factories are not limited by statute. Your analogy is more fitting to an owner of a vehicle who already has an additional paying driver. You can substitute the factory for the vehicle, once the vehicle is fully employed then there is no vacancy, once the factory is fully employed there is no vacancy. The difference is, that the person looking for a job at the factory can always go and build or buy his own factory, that is not the case where restricted licenses are concerned. And before you say he can always go and buy a cab and plate, I draw your attention to the fact that that scenario is conditional on a cab and plate being for sale.

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JD



Kin hell and you tell us to live in a real world?

look shall we all have a whipp round to buy Rover?

went for a tenner last time a fiver will do?

anyone know a decent legal advisor?


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look shall we all have a whipp round to buy Rover?

Another success for the T&G. :sad:

No doubt they will now have a mass influx of new cab section leadership in the Midlands, just itching to f*** the local cab trade.

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look shall we all have a whipp round to buy Rover?


can you have a whip round for mine?

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anyone know a decent legal advisor?


Well you could certainly do with one given your interpretation of the 1847 Act.

Has the matter been resolved yet?

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sussex aggreed with my interpreration, castlepoint aggrees with my interpretation.

I believe you said you could see my point?

changed your mind because of personalities?

shows a weak mind.


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captain cab wrote:
I dont necessarily disagree.

A factory up here is closing shortly, so far I understand at least 10 people from the factory have initiated the process to got licenses.

Redundancy money well spent? time will tell.

If they make a rats ass of it, they will leave, if they do well they will survive, in either case the cake size decreases for the rest.

By limiting the permits or gradually increasing them, then surely it doesnt have too much of an adverse effect on people currently in the job.

If their factory was still open and I wanted a job there, and the boss of the factory said he had no vacancies, do I cry foul? do I shout limited market?

regards

Captain cab


Your analogy is wrong, In the main factories are not limited by statute. Your analogy is more fitting to an owner of a vehicle who already has an additional paying driver. You can substitute the factory for the vehicle, once the vehicle is fully employed then there is no vacancy, once the factory is fully employed there is no vacancy. The difference is, that the person looking for a job at the factory can always go and build or buy his own factory, that is not the case where restricted licenses are concerned. And before you say he can always go and buy a cab and plate, I draw your attention to the fact that that scenario is conditional on a cab and plate being for sale.

Regards

JD



Kin hell and you tell us to live in a real world?

look shall we all have a whipp round to buy Rover?

went for a tenner last time a fiver will do?

anyone know a decent legal advisor?


Cap will have to forgive me for disagreeing with him but I believe there is no comparison or similarity in kind, therefore there is no analogy. Restricted licenses no matter what concept they take, have nothing whatsoever to do with factory employment or any other type of employment. There is not a remote similarity even though the Captain might wish to persuade himself that there is.

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Yorkie wrote:
sussex aggreed with my interpreration, castlepoint aggrees with my interpretation.

I believe you said you could see my point?

changed your mind because of personalities?

shows a weak mind.


I don't know how many General post offices Yorkshire has in these controlled zones but I expect Yorkie has advised all the cabbies who fit into his category to go and ply for hire in any zone within five miles of the General post office. That about sums it up doesn't it?

Can we assume that Yorkie will be going back to the same rank to ply for hire, or has he found another rank in another zone that's taken his fancy? lmao

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anyone know a decent legal advisor?


Well you could certainly do with one given your interpretation of the 1847 Act.

Has the matter been resolved yet?


I think he's been reading the Derek Cummins book on how to become a professional Taxi driver?

I can already hear the pitta patta of Mr T's abnormal feet running to defend the honour of his mate Mr Cummins.

I wonder if the T in Mr T stands for Mr Taxitalk lol.

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