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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:38 pm 
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Jail for taxi driver who attacked Cardiff City fan with fire extinguisher


A taxi driver who brutally attacked a man with a fire extinguisher outside Cardiff Central rail station has been jailed for eight years.

Martyn Gregory Smith, 56, of Heol Briwnant, Cardiff, was sentenced at Cardiff Crown Court after being found guilty at an earlier hearing of causing grievous bodily harm with intent and possession of an offensive weapon.

The sustained attack was so brutal that witnesses admitted afterwards they thought Smith was going to kill his victim.

The court heard that on Saturday, 4 February 2012, the victim – a 25-year-old man from Rhos, near Neath – who had been to watch a Cardiff City match earlier that day, had arranged to meet two friends outside Cardiff Central.

At around 6pm, on his way to his friend’s car, which was parked in the short-term waiting bays at the front of the station, Smith claimed a bottle being carried by the victim came into contact with his vehicle.

Aggrieved, Smith then went after the victim, who was by now sat in the passenger seat of his friend’s car. He began remonstrating with the victim before attacking him with a portable fire extinguisher, hitting him repeatedly to the face and head.

At this point, the victim’s friend shouted: "What are you doing? You are going to kill him,” before pulling Smith away from the victim, who was bleeding heavily.

Smith then ran back to his taxi and drove off, the court was told.

The victim’s friend stated afterwards that had he not intervened, he believed his friend might have been killed.

A second witness, who was sat in a parked car next to the victim, said he heard shouting and turned to see Smith, brandishing a small red fire extinguisher, banging his fist on the front passenger door window. He went on to describe how Smith used the fire extinguisher to repeatedly strike the victim.

The victim admitted carrying a bottle of lager but denied he was drunk. He doesn’t recall the bottle ever coming into contact with the taxi but said that if it did, it was unintentional.

He suffered a number of injuries to his head, which required hospital treatment, and has been suffering severe mental trauma since the attack.

In interview, Smith claimed the victim had struck his taxi with a glass bottle and attacked him. Smith pushed him away in self-defence and he fell to the ground, which was when, he claimed, the injuries were sustained. Smith denied using the fire extinguisher to assault him.

Judge Stephen Hopkins described the attack as “ferocious”, adding it had had “devastating consequences on the victim, which will affect him for the rest of his life”.

Detective Constable Dilwyn Lewis, who led the investigating team from BTP Cardiff, said: “The victim was simply meeting friends when he was subjected to a sustained and ferocious attack with a weapon.

“Smith’s violent reaction to his claims that the victim had knocked his taxi with a bottle was completely irrational.

“As well as the physical injuries sustained to his head, which required stitches and staples, the victim has suffered a huge amount of mental trauma as a result of the attack, including confused speech, hallucinations, body tremors, loss of memory and severe anxiety.

“This incident has had a profound impact on his wellbeing - he has been forced to give up his job due to the injuries sustained. I hope that the fact that Smith is now behind bars can help him to start moving on with his life.

“There are no winners with the outcome of this case. A ‘just’ conviction resulting from one man’s moment of madness has severely impacted on the life of another man and his family.

“I welcome the sentence handed down to Smith and hope it goes some way to showing that violence and intimidation of this nature has no place on or near the rail network, or anywhere else.”

Smith was sentenced to eight years for grievous bodily harm with intent and a further 12 months, to run concurrently, for possession of an offensive weapon.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 5:42 pm 
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Well it's the first time I've ever read of a fire extinguisher being an offensive weapon.

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Detective Constable Dilwyn Lewis, who led the investigating team from BTP Cardiff, said: “The victim was simply meeting friends when he was subjected to a sustained and ferocious attack with a weapon.




This is the first that I have heard of this situation - okay so the guy over reacted! but for the DC to say...................he was just meeting friends!! something has obviously gone on, and the driver on the back of a statement like that ends up going down for longer than he should imo.

I am not totally denigrating the damaged victim, OR for that matter totally taking the side of the driver - but I am pretty sure we all know what has happened from a drunken scum bag.

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PostPosted: Fri Aug 03, 2012 7:59 pm 
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cabby john wrote:
something has obviously gone on,

Indeed, the taxi driver nearly killed someone. :sad:

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cabby john wrote:
I am not totally denigrating the damaged victim, OR for that matter totally taking the side of the driver - but I am pretty sure we all know what has happened from a drunken scum bag.

I'm pretty certain you don't, however the judge that gave the real scumbag 8 years does.

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I'm pretty certain you don't, however the judge that gave the real scumbag 8 years does.



I am sure that you must be right!

The driver was sat in his car and thought........................I am bored - the guy over there has not done anything wrong but I think I will give that guy a good going over with my "fire extinguisher" - of course he totally deserved without provocation to go away for eight years!!

Putting things into perspective as it was not an innocent rape victim ( you usually get less for that) or a robbery (less for that as well) - about 4 years would be more applicable due to the ar$ehole bringing it upon himself.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 04, 2012 3:36 am 
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It will be interesting to see what sentence in comparison this person/animal gets

http://www.taxi-driver.co.uk/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=19927

I would put money on it he doesn`t get anything like 8 years.


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Well it's the first time I've ever read of a fire extinguisher being an offensive weapon.

Just about any item can be classed as an offensive weapon depending on the circumstances it is used under.

Remember the thread from a while back about what drivers could carry to defend themselves ? There were things like Jif lemons, deodorant sprays, wheel braces and baseball bats. All innocent items but if you attack someone with a deodorant it becomes offensive, if the wheel brace is in the drivers door and not the boot it can be classed as offensive becuase there's an intention to use, if you've got the bat but no ball then why is it being carried ?

If you picked up something close to hand you'd normally find in a vehicle to defend yourself during an attack (you could use your cashbag as a cosh) you'd probably be alright. If that item happened to be an offcut of lead pipe you'd have difficulty convincing a court it was there for anything else other than to be used as a weapon.


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sasha wrote:
toots wrote:
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possession of an offensive weapon


Well it's the first time I've ever read of a fire extinguisher being an offensive weapon.

Just about any item can be classed as an offensive weapon depending on the circumstances it is used under.

Remember the thread from a while back about what drivers could carry to defend themselves ? There were things like Jif lemons, deodorant sprays, wheel braces and baseball bats. All innocent items but if you attack someone with a deodorant it becomes offensive, if the wheel brace is in the drivers door and not the boot it can be classed as offensive becuase there's an intention to use, if you've got the bat but no ball then why is it being carried ?

If you picked up something close to hand you'd normally find in a vehicle to defend yourself during an attack (you could use your cashbag as a cosh) you'd probably be alright. If that item happened to be an offcut of lead pipe you'd have difficulty convincing a court it was there for anything else other than to be used as a weapon.



Yep I must agree, good post. =D>

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if it had been the other way round and the cabbie got beaten up would the bottle thrower have gone to jail ? I am not condoning his actions he clearly lost it and went too far but I somehow doubt the "victim" didn't provoke the situation

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edders23 wrote:
if it had been the other way round and the cabbie got beaten up would the bottle thrower have gone to jail ? I am not condoning his actions he clearly lost it and went too far but I somehow doubt the "victim" didn't provoke the situation



Yeah, I think this bit probably led to the jail sentence;

attacking him with a portable fire extinguisher, hitting him repeatedly to the face and head.

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