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I have been told the following:

There is a law or there was one (unsure)

That for example if your a private hire company operating in area "A" licenced by your local authority (council) and area "B" is elswhere in the country authorised by a different licencing authority.

As a private hire company you can hire owner drivers to work in your circuit from area "B" to your area in "A".

Does anyone know if this is correct?
If it ever existed and then the law changed?
OR... If it currently still exists and please provide evidence?

Thanks

the "out of area" cars would need to be hackney plated

a PH ops can only pass work/sub to a PH licensed in the same licensing area

a hackney can take work of any base anywhere

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Thanks for your info,

So am I right in saying,

- I CANNOT approach out of town private hire drivers to come work in my town or in my circuit to cover work for me
- I can only sub contract the work out to a driver or ph operator in another town to cover a job for me
- I can approach a hackney carriage driver from a different town to come work on my radio circuit to get my jobs covered? if yes, could I get my own company brand and logo on this vehicle for advertisement? Could I give this driver a PDA to work from in our town and stand at a discrete location so not in the way of other HC who work in the actual town?

It is my understanding when it comes to private hire that the ops license, vehicle license and the drivers license all have to be issued by the same licensing authority. So if you have work booked in area A you cannot subcontract to anybody licensed in area B because the booking was taken in area A. I think what you need to look at is why drivers don't want to work for you in the area you are licensed?



Why not use HC from your own town?

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There are laws, and high court judgements, that say the above is illegal.

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Yes.
No.
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Not so sure about your last yes in respect of logo's etc ; the LA that licenses the vehicle may have conditions?

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Thanks for your information.

Our company is a busy private hire company, we pay 40% and HC drivers get 50% on the rank eventhough my drivers earn more money drivers think they are better off getting 50% which is stupid because they have to wait for ages to get one job from the rank. Now I have employed some owner drivers and got rent of £50 per week at busy times they do not want to accept the jobs except get on that [edited by admin] rank full of queue. I do not see the point in this and I am [edited by admin] off with this occuring drivers always think they know when they do not.

Ahh I see now, well firstly I don't think you employ anybody, so therein lays your problem. How many owner drivers do you have on your system?

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I have got 15 cars of my own, I had 4 owner drivers and I kicked them all out.. they gave bad customer service, turning up late, always made excuses and [edited by admin] about I ended up getting my PDA's back. MY company is growing despite in recession but DRIVERS who are suppose to be assets are a huge let down.

I think it's possibly because you give little incentive, I mean I certainly wouldn't work on a split bag that gives more to you than it does to me. You control all my work and own the vehicle but you don't employ me and pay sick pay, holiday etc

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I get 60% I am entitled to pay

- VAT
- Insurance
- Advertising
- System Cost
- Wages
- Office bills
- Office Rent and Rates
- Vehicle repairs
- Vehicle replacements
- Vehicle TAX
- Vehicle MOT
- Plate Renewals
- Fuel
- Customers who run off without paying costs me fuel, maintenance and so on
- and lots more

I get 10% if that...

Driver gets 40% and is entitled to pay

- NO TAX if so, very very little (as most dodge it)
- Little National Insurance
- Insurance Excess if they crash


Prove me wrong?

Don't shoot the messenger you asked why you couldn't get drivers and I suggested why. If drivers are paying little or no tax are you suggesting they avoid paying it or they don't actually earn enough to pay it, in fact not only that but they could well be claiming working tax credit too. Again I ask you, are these drivers really self employed or do you just say that to avoid paying minimum wage, sick pay, holiday pay, etc etc

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I aint shooting anyone, just making a valid point mate.
My drivers are all self-employed, in this tough economic time we live now sick pay, holiday pay and so arent so important my friend as we're all cash hungry.
I would like to pay my drivers upto £8 per hour but none of them are interested, now thats nearly £2 over the min wage. So would you like to explain why they do not listen?

- Show less income perhaps and keep on benefits?

So what's stopping you paying them £8 per hour, other than you'd have to be employing them to pay them anything. You don't seem to understand that whilst you think you are very magnanimous and want to 'pay them' you are in fact paying them nothing at all and you don't seem to realise it is they that are paying you ffs

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