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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:29 pm 
I'd like to know the country of origin this fella comes from, not that I'm likely to get either an answer or a true one anyway, but he sure doesn't sound British from what he's written, so his methods are ok because in his mind he's doing everyone a favour,

£1300 pw my arse, maybe the one car that you own takes that much but I bet if I came for a looky looky I'd find drivers saying I do 24/7 and take about £600 on a good week, any office that the potential to earn £1300 pw has no trouble recuiting drivers, especially in todays climate,

Sounds more like a wishful thinker to me, I have a dream I think is the phrase for it,

Anyway here's my guess (and it's not racist to guess btw) I think our boy is Asian and wants to be Afro, Y or N?


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 1:34 pm 
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£1300 pw my arse, maybe the one car that you own takes that much but I bet if I came for a looky looky I'd find drivers saying I do 24/7 and take about £600 on a good week, any office that the potential to earn £1300 pw has no trouble recuiting drivers, especially in todays climate,


Of course after doing the 84 hour week, the driver could well be dead - as could his passengers - I wonder if he's ever heard of either corporate manslaughter or the health and safety at work act? :sad:

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 2:07 pm 
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Doom wrote:
£1300 pw my arse, maybe the one car that you own takes that much but I bet if I came for a looky looky I'd find drivers saying I do 24/7 and take about £600 on a good week, any office that the potential to earn £1300 pw has no trouble recuiting drivers, especially in todays climate,


Of course after doing the 84 hour week, the driver could well be dead - as could his passengers - I wonder if he's ever heard of either corporate manslaughter or the health and safety at work act? :sad:



I used to know a driver Wayne who every time you asked him how much he'd done he'd come back with an amazing figure, it'd be 9PM and I'd be on £18 he'd be on £98, thing was he used to count the wifes day take in with is, so if she'd done £70 he'd include that to his, so I'm guessing our boy is looking at the possibilities of how much a car takes per day over 24 hours and imagining he has a fleet of Johnny Cabs driven by robots,

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:11 pm 
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a grand a month to keep a car plated and insured?, and pay the cost of it?

i could have a Brabus for less

BTW, im plated in a CITY, it makes no difference at all,

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 4:35 pm 
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waqas wrote:

Thats what I am doing mate, CAR/RADIO/INSURANCE AND ALL THE OTHER EXPENSIVE FOR £350 a week, its not expensive considering I am paying everything and only make £100 per week from what they give me as £250 is expenses. They just need to rent and add fuel. not a bad price mate


First cab firm I worked for charged £150 a week for rent. That included the XDA with TomTom software, and it was open shift. Work as little or as hard as you want.

They can also supply you with a fully expensed car (Ford Galaxy) which was insured, maintained, taxed and licensed at their expense, which was £200 a week (I had my own car anyway), which you took home and you could also use privately.

So, like Waqas this would also be £350, and all you had to pay for was the fuel.

Though don't know how anyone made any money, don't think anyone in the firm made £1300 a week!?


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:47 pm 
Well it looks like Johnny Cabs ain't gonna reply doesn't it, probably too busy counting his millions while re-stringing his whip.


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 4:52 pm 
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Well, working out my weekly expenses with a leased car, I reckon my total fixed overheads (lease/insurance/cleaning etc) is £146 a week., and that's paying the lease company £407 a month. Petrol and tyre costs are extra, so maybe with repair as well (again these can be costed on a mileage run basis), possibly another £25 a week.

so anyone paying £350 a week must be raving bonkers or desparate.


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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 1:51 am 
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roythebus wrote:
Well, working out my weekly expenses with a leased car, I reckon my total fixed overheads (lease/insurance/cleaning etc) is £146 a week., and that's paying the lease company £407 a month. Petrol and tyre costs are extra, so maybe with repair as well (again these can be costed on a mileage run basis), possibly another £25 a week.

so anyone paying £350 a week must be raving bonkers or desparate.


if it was a 4 year "buy/drive" deal and the car became the drivers property after 4 years, it JUST about works, but not as a hire drive

if the car took £1300 a week why wouldnt waqas put a PAYE driver in it fot £8/hr and keep the rest?...

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 8:08 am 
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My current car, Toyota Auris hybrid is on a 2 year lease to see how it pans out for p/h work in a rural area, so if it doesn't prove economical, it can go back and I'm not lumbered with a black sheep. costs per mile to run is 37.21p on 30,000 miles a year. My Chrysler Voyager is 58.24p a mile also on 30,000 a year (car fully paid for).

I choose not to do every job that comes in because sometimes they're just not worth it. airport runs, all over a 200 mile round trip from here to Heathrow/Stansted, and the punters don't want to pay much more than £80! That's less than 50p a mile for up to 5 hours work, so not economical at all. So the £80 trip would cost £74 without allowing for my time at £8 an hour minimum wage, another £40.

OK, the cost per mile goes down the more miles you do, but then the tax bill goes up and you end up working just to pay more tax. I'm currently working on a graph that shows the optimum annual mileage; there must be a balancing figure where cost per mile=decent earning without being clobbered for too much tax.

So, let's look at the guy paying £350 a week for his cab, supposedly earning £1200 a week. That's £17500 a year for the car, assuming 50 weeks hire. £1200 earnt a week is £60,000 a year gross, less £17500 is £42500. Less 20% tax is £34000 a year net. Yes, I know he has to pay petrol money out of that but by the time that happens, and to take £1200 a week you'd have to do about 1000 miles a week, at 35mpg is about £200 a week in fuel.

We end up with £100 a day to take home, working say 12 hours a day is about £12 an hour. So you've worked 3600 hours a year for £12 an hour and paid the taxman over £8k. A 40 hour week for 50 weeks means you work 2000 hours a year. My car does 30,000 miles a year at £1 a mile (loaded and unloaded) so I work far less for much the same end result and pay very little in tax!

i know there's mistakes in the above figures as it's "back of a beermat" calculations, but they won't be that far out. As one of the avatars on here says, turnover is vanity , profit is sanity.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 6:46 pm 
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To Earn £1200 per week in my firm it costs 15% fuel which is £180.00 and my drivers only need to do 700 miles to earn this all local miles or a maximum of 900 miles if airports and so on..

We have very good tariffs in our area

Our 10 mile trip on Tariff 1 (6am - 11pm) is £24.00 approx
Our 10 mile trip on Tariff 2 (11pm - 6am) is £36.00 approx

I guess the firms you work for, a 10mile trip will be like £15 for t1 and t2 like £24? (around these figures)

So lets have a breakdown to shut you all up...

A driver who works for me on 40% who does 12 hours a day earns..

5am - 5pm (mon - fri) minimum sale £150, maximum sale £230 (depends on the day) so thats £750 minimum for 5days
then...
Saturday 5am - 5pm they take min £170, max £190 (depends on the day) so thats £170

Sunday they do 5am - 6pm they take minimum £150, maximum £180.. so thats £150

Total up all the minimums £1070
Total up all the maximums £1500
Add them together £2570 divide by 2 = £1285 average

So then they take 40% £514 on this wage but drivers are soo greedy and they [edited by admin] about...

So I decide to rent that vehicle... for £350 per week, so they earn the same £1285 per week, they give me £350, fuel £200 (max) so thats £550
£1285 - 550 = £735 in there pocket

there you go, understand the bloody concept. its not slave labour its called working hard and not being lazy, taxi is not a office job which is 9am til 5pm you wont earn nothing, you have to put the hours to earn. you lot are all doughnuts and chat out of your bumhole




roythebus wrote:
My current car, Toyota Auris hybrid is on a 2 year lease to see how it pans out for p/h work in a rural area, so if it doesn't prove economical, it can go back and I'm not lumbered with a black sheep. costs per mile to run is 37.21p on 30,000 miles a year. My Chrysler Voyager is 58.24p a mile also on 30,000 a year (car fully paid for).

I choose not to do every job that comes in because sometimes they're just not worth it. airport runs, all over a 200 mile round trip from here to Heathrow/Stansted, and the punters don't want to pay much more than £80! That's less than 50p a mile for up to 5 hours work, so not economical at all. So the £80 trip would cost £74 without allowing for my time at £8 an hour minimum wage, another £40.

OK, the cost per mile goes down the more miles you do, but then the tax bill goes up and you end up working just to pay more tax. I'm currently working on a graph that shows the optimum annual mileage; there must be a balancing figure where cost per mile=decent earning without being clobbered for too much tax.

So, let's look at the guy paying £350 a week for his cab, supposedly earning £1200 a week. That's £17500 a year for the car, assuming 50 weeks hire. £1200 earnt a week is £60,000 a year gross, less £17500 is £42500. Less 20% tax is £34000 a year net. Yes, I know he has to pay petrol money out of that but by the time that happens, and to take £1200 a week you'd have to do about 1000 miles a week, at 35mpg is about £200 a week in fuel.

We end up with £100 a day to take home, working say 12 hours a day is about £12 an hour. So you've worked 3600 hours a year for £12 an hour and paid the taxman over £8k. A 40 hour week for 50 weeks means you work 2000 hours a year. My car does 30,000 miles a year at £1 a mile (loaded and unloaded) so I work far less for much the same end result and pay very little in tax!

i know there's mistakes in the above figures as it's "back of a beermat" calculations, but they won't be that far out. As one of the avatars on here says, turnover is vanity , profit is sanity.

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:28 pm 
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waqas, what will you do when HC are required to have tachos and observe driver hours?....

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 11:00 pm 
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To Earn £1200 per week in my firm it costs 15% fuel which is £180.00 and my drivers only need to do 700 miles to earn this all local miles or a maximum of 900 miles if airports and so on..


what portion of your 700 miles is loaded miles?

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PostPosted: Sat Aug 11, 2012 11:59 pm 
Nice figures you posted Waq, who you trying to kid btw, is this to convince someone or have you become a deluded cabby who drive miles on a thimble of fuel, every punter gives a 200% tip and everyone goes home happy with a pot of gold, so much so you are bleating in another thread about drivers stroking by looking at the booking sheet etc, why if they are earning these lottery numbers would they need to look at the sheet?

If bullshit bounced you'd be made of rubber mate.


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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:12 am 
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700 miles on £180 = 24mpg, in an Avensis? glad i bought a Mondeo (50MPG)

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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:30 am 
wannabeeahack wrote:
700 miles on £180 = 24mpg, in an Avensis? glad i bought a Mondeo (50MPG)



Avensis TD does around 40 mpg urban and 55 on a run, so draw your own conclusions as to the validity of this man Wannas.


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