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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 5:04 am 
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I think you will find that all the licenses you have quoted are non-transferable. They are, in fact, issued anew, if the applicant is deemed to be a “fit and proper person” to hold the licence. There is no back door de facto transfer of the licence and no artificial licence value. Their business is sold on financial performance and is subject to the new applicant being approved by the council for the sale of the business to go through.


Taxi licences are similarly non-transferable. Any "transfer" is only possible because taxi operator's licences may be issued to non-personal entities. That is the only difference.

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As for a taxi being a business, everything is controlled by the council except for, your working hours. If you buy anything, it's a job.


And your point is? Anyone buying any business is buying themselves a job.

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You're not only a dreamer Swannee but a hell of a slow learner. You don't really believe you are a bona fide businessman do you, with a real business to sell?


I don't recollect claiming or implying that I was.

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Oh and Swannee, I wouldn't drive a taxi again supposing my life depended on it. The thought of working alongside guys like you makes me, want to throw-up. You have no real business and what's even worse, no dignity to speak of. You are simply a serf, working for the man. #-o


Thabk goodness the trade is rid of you then. I shall ignore your ignorant comment regarding the status of taxi drivers.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:49 am 
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Taxi licences are similarly non-transferable. Any "transfer" is only possible because taxi operator's licences may be issued to non-personal entities. That is the only difference.


I used the word, de facto, meaning a transfer, existing, in fact, whether with lawful authority or not. So the plate is, in fact, transferred only not legally recognised as passing from one person to another.


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So, just as a public house licensee, a bookmaker's licensee and a street trader licence operate their businesses under a licence, so does a taxi operator licensee his.



I also use the word “anew” meaning the licence is a new licence, and different to the one being transferred. All the above are issued with a new licence which is not subject to an artificial cap. Oh and the public transport industry is completely different to licensing bricks and mortar.


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And your point is? Anyone buying any business is buying themselves a job.


A business is about buying and controlling the financial operation of the business. The same can't be said of a taxi. You have little or no control over what you can charge. The fact is, you are really just a pseudo employee of the council and not a bona fide businessman with a real business.


You're a dreamer Swannee and just a serf ta boot...


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 8:00 am 
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Naw, I'm just a realist earning a living from a job. You are the one with the jaundiced views. Try reading my words without putting your own spin on them.

You really need to get a life if you can and leave philosophy to those who can think for themselves.


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:43 am 
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Naw, I'm just a realist earning a living from a job. You are the one with the jaundiced views. Try reading my words without putting your own spin on them.

You really need to get a life if you can and leave philosophy to those who can think for themselves.


And you can think for yourself :lol:

You've never had an original thought in your life. You're a product of your own subservience.

And the trade feeds off it, and people like you.

Taxi licences are being transferred - fact.

The law says taxi licences are not transferrable - fact.

Owners have NO control over their "business" - fact.

A handful of individuals in the trade have control of it - fact.

Numpties like you allow them that control - fact.

The Skull and taylor have had no influence on the trade - fact.

The current state of the trade is entirely down to those like you who have allowed the few control - fact.

The blame for the poor state of the trade Swannee is - YOU - fact.

And that's why we're pashing ourselves laughing.

BTW That you seem to think my unemployed status is justice in our supposedly modern, free enterprise economy just says it all. That's the measure of you as an individual, that's the measure of your quality. And just proves how selfish you truly are.

replicate my situation throughout the economy and we're in the land of discrimination and subjugation, which are the causes of every civil strife and insurrection throughout history. You want your wee illusory world destroyed?

Now, if you're saying you work 5 ten hour shifts, then it's likely an underestimate, because liars like you could never tell the truth on their best day.

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 3:56 pm 
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swannee wrote:
Naw, I'm just a realist earning a living from a job. You are the one with the jaundiced views. Try reading my words without putting your own spin on them.

You really need to get a life if you can and leave philosophy to those who can think for themselves.



Your problem Swannee, is you've bought into your own little fantasy world in which you see yourself as some businessman taxi driver. When the evidence proves you are nothing but the councils serf. You simply live in denial of the truth of your situation.

Stand back and take a hard look at your trade, “businessmen taxi drivers,"your little illusion is not only pathetic it's laughable.

As for thinking for yourself, you wouldn't know where to start. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 6:32 pm 
Heck Hi, Gaz n' Jaz getting a whippin as usual :roll:


Dunnie fargut ta accuse all others of Meds,Drugs annie Alcohol arbooose as tha reesun far their illusion of a real world, only in Jaskulland can the evil capitalist machine be brought to it's knees, make a pretty good movie that Jaskull the Movie starring Garry as Capt Scotland the caped crusader with his loyal sidekick Jim in the role of Hemorrhoidman, getting up the arse of evil in a kilt. :badgrin:


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Heck Hi, Gaz n' Jaz getting a whippin as usual :roll:


Dunnie fargut ta accuse all others of Meds,Drugs annie Alcohol arbooose as tha reesun far their illusion of a real world, only in Jaskulland can the evil capitalist machine be brought to it's knees, make a pretty good movie that Jaskull the Movie starring Garry as Capt Scotland the caped crusader with his loyal sidekick Jim in the role of Hemorrhoidman, getting up the arse of evil in a kilt. :badgrin:



Unfortunately, for you Doom, if you don't have an alcohol and drug's problem, then you really are in trouble. And one way or the other, you need psychiatric help and shouldn't be allowed anywhere near members of the public. :shock:

As for pretendy plate "values" and taxi drivers running bona fide businesses, it's a nice dream but not real-world thinking. You really would have to be delusional to believe such tripe. #-o


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PostPosted: Thu Aug 09, 2012 11:42 pm 
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Unfortunately, for you Doom, if you don't have an alcohol and drug's problem, then you really are in trouble. And one way or the other, you need psychiatric help and shouldn't be allowed anywhere near members of the public. :shock:

As for pretendy plate "values" and taxi drivers running bona fide businesses, it's a nice dream but not real-world thinking. You really would have to be delusional to believe such tripe. #-o



OMG I left out the skitzo bit didn't I, how could I not remember you always resort to skitzo as well as drunk,druggy etc, you must have great eyes to be able to judge from the distances you do Gazzer,

I've told you if you are worried to report me, I'll take any test mate, how about you bro, feeling confident?


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:34 am 
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Unfortunately, for you Doom, if you don't have an alcohol and drug's problem, then you really are in trouble. And one way or the other, you need psychiatric help and shouldn't be allowed anywhere near members of the public. :shock:

As for pretendy plate "values" and taxi drivers running bona fide businesses, it's a nice dream but not real-world thinking. You really would have to be delusional to believe such tripe. #-o



OMG I left out the skitzo bit didn't I, how could I not remember you always resort to skitzo as well as drunk,druggy etc, you must have great eyes to be able to judge from the distances you do Gazzer,

I've told you if you are worried to report me, I'll take any test mate, how about you bro, feeling confident?


Doom, anyone upon reading your posts would have more than enough reason to believe you are a complete whack job. #-o Your alcohol and drug abuse probably doesn't help, but why would it? #-o Self-medicating is not an answer to mental illness. #-o Someone at the clinic should have explained this to you. #-o


I'm only trying to help, and hopefully before you end up losing your job or hurting someone, including yourself. :-|


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 12:42 am 
Skull wrote:
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Skull wrote:
Unfortunately, for you Doom, if you don't have an alcohol and drug's problem, then you really are in trouble. And one way or the other, you need psychiatric help and shouldn't be allowed anywhere near members of the public. :shock:

As for pretendy plate "values" and taxi drivers running bona fide businesses, it's a nice dream but not real-world thinking. You really would have to be delusional to believe such tripe. #-o



OMG I left out the skitzo bit didn't I, how could I not remember you always resort to skitzo as well as drunk,druggy etc, you must have great eyes to be able to judge from the distances you do Gazzer,

I've told you if you are worried to report me, I'll take any test mate, how about you bro, feeling confident?


Doom, anyone upon reading your posts would have more than enough reason to believe you are a complete whack job. #-o Your alcohol and drug abuse probably doesn't help, but why would it? Self-medicating is not an answer to mental illness. Someone at the clinic should have explained this to you. #-o


I'm only trying to help, and hopefully before you end up losing your job. :-|



Ahh yer back, don't keep me waiting next time it's rude y'know,

I ain't losing anything Gaz, there's only one unemployed fella in this thread and that's you old son, now you can bang on as much as you like but Longs and Swan basically told you all about it, and what did you respond with, same old abuse, same route, you do it to everyone who doesn't agree with you mate, there's page after page of the same insults and accusation's, I've said before you are the one in a mentally unstable condition, you are bitter and alienated towards the cab trade, seek help old son seek help,

Do you like my avatar btw, :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 1:11 am 
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Doom, I think if you actually read my posts, you will see. They are based on logic and facts, and not some pretendy fantasy world of taxi drivers, controlling their own businesses.

I only speak the truth.

Oh and Doom, you don't have to be Sigmund Freud, to know you have real problems with your mental illness. I only wish I could help. :-|


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 2:39 pm 
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Doom, I think if you actually read my posts, you will see. They are based on logic and facts, and not some pretendy fantasy world of taxi drivers, controlling their own businesses.

I only speak the truth.

Oh and Doom, you don't have to be Sigmund Freud, to know you have real problems with your mental illness. I only wish I could help. :-|



Garry, all you spill daily is how the big bad man is against you in every way bro, you constantly berate the trade even though you aren't currently in it, have you ever thought you and Jim can't get a drive because everyone knows what a PITA the pair of you are and won't entertain you rather than some made up council club rulings,

I basically think you have a grudge against anyone who tries in life, working to your anti model man would be in the 1300's still as nobody would bother to invest in future tech, some aspects of capitalism are very bad, but it's the way man moves forwards, communism is beautiful in it's concept but look at the realities, the west is all built up and tech rich, the east is still like the west was in 1850, what does that say,

Now try this for me Garry, get up tomorrow and say to yourself........this is the first day I'm not going to act like a baby with gum ache. =;


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Skull wrote:
Doom, I think if you actually read my posts, you will see. They are based on logic and facts, and not some pretendy fantasy world of taxi drivers, controlling their own businesses.

I only speak the truth.

Oh and Doom, you don't have to be Sigmund Freud, to know you have real problems with your mental illness. I only wish I could help. :-|



Garry, all you spill daily is how the big bad man is against you in every way bro, you constantly berate the trade even though you aren't currently in it, have you ever thought you and Jim can't get a drive because everyone knows what a PITA the pair of you are and won't entertain you rather than some made up council club rulings,

I basically think you have a grudge against anyone who tries in life, working to your anti model man would be in the 1300's still as nobody would bother to invest in future tech, some aspects of capitalism are very bad, but it's the way man moves forwards, communism is beautiful in it's concept but look at the realities, the west is all built up and tech rich, the east is still like the west was in 1850, what does that say,

Now try this for me Garry, get up tomorrow and say to yourself........this is the first day I'm not going to act like a baby with gum ache. =;


Doom, I take great satisfaction in saying, I told you so, to the Edinburgh taxi trade. And I make no secret of the mocking contempt I have, for what I believe is a subclass of society, of which you are a part of and a shining example.

As I said before, I normally only comment on the broader issues on this forum, such as the news, politics or the economy. I am truly not interested in the taxi trade from the point of driving a taxi or trying to earn a living. And I can assure you. I am over the moon, at no longer having to do the job of working with ignorant scumbags, never mind picking them up.

Look at it this way Doom, I like beating on the likes of you, Swannee and Longshanks out of appreciation for no longer being a serf. One might say, I see it as my duty. 8)

You could be forgiven for thinking that I see myself as superior to the likes of you, and you know what, you'd be right. :D


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PostPosted: Fri Aug 10, 2012 3:53 pm 
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Doom, I take great satisfaction in saying, I told you so, to the Edinburgh taxi trade. And I make no secret of the mocking contempt I have, for what I believe is a subclass of society, of which you are a part of and a shining example.

As I said before, I normally only comment on the broader issues on this forum, such as the news, politics or the economy. I am truly not interested in the taxi trade from the point of driving a taxi or trying to earn a living. And I can assure you. I am over the moon, at no longer having to do the job of working with ignorant scumbags, never mind picking them up.

Look at it this way Doom, I like beating on the likes of you, Swannee and Longshanks out of appreciation for no longer being a serf. One might say, I see it as my duty. 8)

You could be forgiven for thinking that I see myself as superior to the likes of you, and you know what, you'd be right. :D


Sadly I am having to pity you Garry, you sound like a lonely bitter man, as for beating on me, I don't think so, bantering maybe but beat, na, what you actually are is anything but superior to anybody, you look at the public in the same light as a mega wealthy man would look at you, class one mistake as you never know what gems lay among those you regard as not worthy and especially in a time of need, serf, tesconiggr,IBMniggr, councilniggr, it's all the same, we are the niggr's of life, it's what we got delt, the only escape is to employ yourself in a line that has demand and hope to have plenty of custom, being a cabby will never make you rich, nor will free access to a licence, c'mon are you that stupid you think that if you could get a plate for nowt all the world would transform and it'd become utopia for you, I know you aren't that stupid so stop posting like Oliver in the food hall.


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Doom wrote:
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Doom, I take great satisfaction in saying, I told you so, to the Edinburgh taxi trade. And I make no secret of the mocking contempt I have, for what I believe is a subclass of society, of which you are a part of and a shining example.

As I said before, I normally only comment on the broader issues on this forum, such as the news, politics or the economy. I am truly not interested in the taxi trade from the point of driving a taxi or trying to earn a living. And I can assure you. I am over the moon, at no longer having to do the job of working with ignorant scumbags, never mind picking them up.

Look at it this way Doom, I like beating on the likes of you, Swannee and Longshanks out of appreciation for no longer being a serf. One might say, I see it as my duty. 8)

You could be forgiven for thinking that I see myself as superior to the likes of you, and you know what, you'd be right. :D


Sadly I am having to pity you Garry, you sound like a lonely bitter man, as for beating on me, I don't think so, bantering maybe but beat, na, what you actually are is anything but superior to anybody, you look at the public in the same light as a mega wealthy man would look at you, class one mistake as you never know what gems lay among those you regard as not worthy and especially in a time of need, serf, tesconiggr,IBMniggr, councilniggr, it's all the same, we are the niggr's of life, it's what we got delt, the only escape is to employ yourself in a line that has demand and hope to have plenty of custom, being a cabby will never make you rich, nor will free access to a licence, c'mon are you that stupid you think that if you could get a plate for nowt all the world would transform and it'd become utopia for you, I know you aren't that stupid so stop posting like Oliver in the food hall.


You see Doom, that's just how stupid you really are and why you will always be a serf, working for the man.

The artificial plate value has brought the Edinburgh Taxi Trade to its knees. As we said it would almost 10 years ago, it's nothing more than a business illusion for pretendy businessmen. You are a pseudo employee of the council with fewer rights than Joe, public. You don't own anything, the plate and that little bit of plastic hanging around your neck might as well be a number tattooed on your arm.


Sh*t pay working sh*t hours picking up sh*t people under the control of sh*t politicians, in a nutshell, a sh*t job.

And that's the difference between you and me, Doom. You accept it, whereas I never would and now I'm glad to be free of it. Although, I do take great delight in seeing the economy grinding all these pretendy businessmen into the dust.


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