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PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:02 pm 
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:?: Our council in the Scottish Borders has introdused an age limit on cabs and that is 7 years, but if you have a car 6ys 11months and 30 days old and if it passes the test you can run it for another 3 years how daft is that, It should be 7 years from the date of first registration just to be fair to all owners who have broken the bank to get newer cars, By the way I have tryed to put a 1995 metro cab on and they said no way.
When you change your car,at any time (they only allow saloons or mpvs) we have to pay the full amount for the test that is £70. then an anual licence fee of £162. for that you get exactly the same test and paperwork as the £70 one, and yes we have argued why we have to pay £92 more for the same thing, usual council answers :?: mind you they are not very bright at the best of times like most councils in the uk.


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Ahh the scottish borders, almost Reiver country :wink:

I understood that a local authority can find it almost impossible to have a set upper age limit on vehicles, just south of the border I think they stated they must treat every vehicle on its own merits and although a vehicle may reach the age limit, they will look at it more often

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 Post subject: Re: age limit
PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 9:25 pm 
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skippy41 wrote:
:?: Our council in the Scottish Borders has introdused an age limit on cabs and that is 7 years, but if you have a car 6ys 11months and 30 days old and if it passes the test you can run it for another 3 years how daft is that, It should be 7 years from the date of first registration just to be fair to all owners who have broken the bank to get newer cars, By the way dont even think you could put an old purpouse built cab on they say no.


This is an absolute joke. Every vehicle should be inspected and then - should it be of a satisfactory standard - plated, with no regards to age.

It is time for age restrictions to be done away with completely and each vehicle to be inspected more individually.

In one of our neighbouring LAs, a 1973 L reg FX4 left the fleet last year. That would have been 31 years old at the time. As long as a cab is running well and the interior is sound, then it should be plated.

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 Post subject: Re: age limit
PostPosted: Thu Apr 07, 2005 10:38 pm 
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skippy41 wrote:
:?: Our council in the Scottish Borders has introdused an age limit on cabs and that is 7 years, but if you have a car 6ys 11months and 30 days old and if it passes the test you can run it for another 3 years how daft is that, It should be 7 years from the date of first registration just to be fair to all owners who have broken the bank to get newer cars, By the way I have tryed to put a 1995 metro cab on and they said no way.
When you change your car,at any time (they only allow saloons or mpvs) we have to pay the full amount for the test that is £70. then an anual licence fee of £162. for that you get exactly the same test and paperwork as the £70 one, and yes we have argued why we have to pay £92 more for the same thing, usual council answers :?: mind you they are not very bright at the best of times like most councils in the uk.


Chalenge them under HUMAN RIGHTS ACT 1998 ARTICLE 1 OF THE FIRST PROTOCOL - PROTECTION OF PROPERTY

rights to run a business or economic interest connected to the running of a business

Although property has a wide meaning it covers only existing possessions and existing legal rights. For example, it covers the right to receive benefits under a pension scheme but not the right to inherit property at some point in the future. It would not cover the refusal to grant a licence but it might cover revocation or refusal to renew a licence.

In other words if a person is granted a llicence for a vehicle older than yours I recon a challenge could be made. An example of this is if a Licensing Authority grants a licence only on age of vehicle and a vehicle the same age as yours or older is granted a licence only on the fact that it has been registered as a PH prior to the cut off period could be a human rights issue in that you have the right to run a business and the economic interests connected to running that business and that such interests are being allowed to others but not you. If there is a rule saying that all vehicles of a certain age have to be off the rd then that would be okay but whilst others are allowed to have licences renewed against you that would be unfair. It has always been my argument that although licences are renewed from the renewal date they are in effect new licences for that term.

You could use argument that if you purchase a £59,000 rolls royce and it happens to be over 7 years by a day it would fail to be granted a licence set against a Lada that cost £300 that just so happens to have got a licence before its 7 Birthday (I don't know if you can get a 7 year old Lada still)

The age limit on vehicles is Council Spin unless there is a upper age limit ban. The spin is that they can say they have a policy to prevent old vehicles running about as PH when some big councils put this out but allow the vehicle to be kept registered as a Tax or private hire as long as it passes the test. So the moto is SPIN THE PUBLIC SPIN THEM ALL

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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 9:22 am 
Down ere our council are thinking about having a Vintage license for PH.
That will include BMs Mercedes and one operator has even got a couple of Bentlys.
But how bad will they look with plates on the back. :shock:

I even hear that Halifax are thinking of having a Vintage license for cab drivers. Guess who will be number one. :wink:


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 08, 2005 12:51 pm 
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fairway wrote:
In one of our neighbouring LAs, a 1973 L reg FX4 left the fleet last year. That would have been 31 years old at the time.


Well, the owner certainley got his monies worth. Freehold for probably 27 years, nice.

Thought my 'H' reg Fairway was doing well. :mrgreen:


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In this area,North of Tay Bridge and South of Forfar,after 6/7 year old, vehicle,must be tested every 6 months,instead of yearly.
Then after 8years old every three months.
The test is very strict,more than just the MOT test,but it ensures that the vehicle is fit for conveying the customers oot and aboot. 8)


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