Taxi Driver Online

Your only concern ??

Jim, woman do not get raped/harmed because there is a lack of taxis they get raped/harmed because there are guys who rape them.

Under your theory we should have a taxi for every member of the public as soon as they demand one could i not use the same theory and say there should have been a policeman there and then to make sure that girl was safe or bus there as soon as she wanted one

Jim, woman are not getting harmed due to the lack of taxis, policemen or buses

If your ONLY concern is really about womans safety i suggest you focus you time to stop these offenders rather than lay the blame onto the taxi restriction policy

I would suggest to you that your flogging a dead horse every time you bang on about this as you know you have taken what was said out of context and anyone with half a brain can see it, the only person you have convinced that that the girl was raped due to lack of taxis is you.

I'm not flogging a dead horse, else you wouldn't be responding. You know full well that limiting taxis contributes to the vulnerability of women. More taxis would take more women home safely.

Jim

Lady smiths point was not aimed at the lack of taxis (you have just made that bit up), there was no mention of her not being able to get a cab

Skull

If Edinburgh had the cap removed that night are you saying the girl would not have been attacked and all rapists would stop doing what they do

I can see what you are getting at but would it not be better for jim to campaign for thousands of more police on the streets if his only concern is womans saftey

No my argument was if Jim s only concern was for womans safety he would be better and woman would be safer with more police on the streets.

And

My other point was that he is using ladys Smiths quote out of context to suit his own agenda

London had 111 rapes attributed to 'taxis' last year (75,733 licenced vehicles).....theyre unrestricted. Cleveland had 38, theyre unrestricted (2082 licensed vehicles).

If you want to prove a point, get to stats

I'm not flogging a dead horse, else you wouldn't be responding. You know full well that limiting taxis contributes to the vulnerability of women. More taxis would take more women home safely.

No council can claim to be protecting public safety unless and until they've done everything possible to protect public safety. deliberately making it more difficult for vulnerable groups to get the safe lift home falls well below this simple test.

And that was precisely the point Lady Smith was making.

What disgusts me is that women's safety is less imprtant to you than a plate value. Than being able to squeeze serfs into a smaller fleet so you can hike their rentals. That is just despicable.

No other market sector suffers such an arbitrary restriction. No other sector is cossetted by reducing supply so that increased demand can inflate prices.

In fact over 75% of local authorities already disagree with you Sunset. That places you in the minority. I'd say that already makes you wrong and me right.

If we had politicians with any moral fibre they would already be howling from the rooftops how wrong restriction is. The Tories, to be fair, have been beating their minority drum since we first argued the point.

Deliberately making it harder to hail a cab to protect your interests is quite outrageous. You should be ashamed to have posted what you just have.

What a disgusting and tawdry trade we have. Selfish people treating customers with contempt, as little more than cash cows. Hardly surprising our streetcred is so poor isn't it?

BTW

And yes, rapists are to blame for rapes. I agree with you on that. But on your logic, we would just blame them and then sit back and do nothing to deter them. But we do try to deter them. We increase police presence. Install cameras. Taxi marshals. More buses. I would say that removing the artificial limit on taxis is just another measure that should be taken to help deter the scumbags.

And what would we say if the police demanded fewer officers on the streets so that those remaining could have more work to do? Or fewer nurses in hospitals. Or doctors? Or paramedics?

We'd say they were daft. So why should cabbies get away with it?

And the population of London is what? 15 million? So what?

I've never said derestricting cabs would solve the public safety issue. But read my posts again, it's just one of the things any council should do if it supposedly cares about safety.

So CC. You argue to us why restricting cabs improves public safety?

No my argument was if Jim s only concern was for womans safety he would be better and woman would be safer with more police on the streets.

And

My other point was that he is using ladys Smiths quote out of context to suit his own agenda

The truth is sunset. You want taxis to be treated like some sort of endangered species, protected from having to compete in a free market. Regardless, of what that means to the public. We've said all along, that a taxi driver is just a pseudo employee of the council, and that's the way you want it to remain.

Do you really think, with the state this country is in? Taxis should be protected while everyone struggles to survive?

You're problem is that you either can't read, or don't read.

That makes you stupid. And, dangerous, at least for those your greed disregards.

There is no case for restriction, whatever you fail to acknowledge. That's why you're in the minority. And why you are wrong.

I think it's time you grew up sunset.

You surprise me - the free market isn't free as you well know.