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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:06 pm 
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A couple of months ago I was approached by a driver from a neighbouring town who occassionally works our town. He claimed my vehicle driven by a part time weekend driver was involved in an incident outside a local nightclub and that he had reported this to police ( passengers allegedly jumped out vehicle and snatched a handbag off a girl stood outside the club and threw contents all over road) He stated that he had offered himself to both police and victim as a witness. I investigated it at the time and my driver is certain that these were passengers he had refused because they seemed too boisterous and they had got into another 8 seater . I didn't hear any more until the following week when I got a call out of the blue from a well known firm of solicitors advising me that his client the girl in the incident was seeking £75000 in damages from me. I explained the situation that I had investigated and was certain we were not involved and have heard nothing more.

Wednesday this driver turned up in town and approached me down at the station to start having another go at me about the driving of one of my drivers. I lost my temper and told him to stop [edited by admin] stirring after the last episode and demanded he walk away from my vehicle. I did not swear or threaten him in any way.

Today i was stopped by the police and questioned about the incident and given a caution as to my behaviour and told that in future if this individual turns up in town I have to leave the rank and stop working.

Since when is telling someone the truth to their face a crime ! But I now have it on my record

This individual apparently has a history of reporting people to the police and council over every single little thing and is not liked by the local drivers I now know why and unfortunately it has cost me dear .
So remember folks in law it is actually illegal to accuse someone of [edited by admin] stirring as I have found out to my cost

I have been in this trade for 21 years as difficult as it may be perhaps I should find another way of earning a living I was once told by a passerby annoyed at the antics of a fellow cabbie that taxi drivers are the scum of the earth well after today I now believe he is RIGHT !

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:10 pm 
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Was that a caution at the station ? Who else witnessed it ,could you not refuse to take the caution.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:04 pm 
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A caution is an acceptance of guilt.

A very good defense lawyer ( :roll: ) once said to me 'never accept a caution', as very low level crimes very rarely make it to court if the defendant is pleading not guilty.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 8:05 pm 
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blackpool wrote:
could you not refuse to take the caution.

Yes.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:15 am 
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edders23 wrote:
A couple of months ago I was approached by a driver from a neighbouring town who occassionally works our town. He claimed my vehicle driven by a part time weekend driver was involved in an incident outside a local nightclub and that he had reported this to police ( passengers allegedly jumped out vehicle and snatched a handbag off a girl stood outside the club and threw contents all over road) He stated that he had offered himself to both police and victim as a witness. I investigated it at the time and my driver is certain that these were passengers he had refused because they seemed too boisterous and they had got into another 8 seater . I didn't hear any more until the following week when I got a call out of the blue from a well known firm of solicitors advising me that his client the girl in the incident was seeking £75000 in damages from me. I explained the situation that I had investigated and was certain we were not involved and have heard nothing more.

Wednesday this driver turned up in town and approached me down at the station to start having another go at me about the driving of one of my drivers. I lost my temper and told him to stop [edited by admin] stirring after the last episode and demanded he walk away from my vehicle. I did not swear or threaten him in any way.

Today i was stopped by the police and questioned about the incident and given a caution as to my behaviour and told that in future if this individual turns up in town I have to leave the rank and stop working.

Since when is telling someone the truth to their face a crime ! But I now have it on my record

This individual apparently has a history of reporting people to the police and council over every single little thing and is not liked by the local drivers I now know why and unfortunately it has cost me dear .
So remember folks in law it is actually illegal to accuse someone of [edited by admin] stirring as I have found out to my cost

I have been in this trade for 21 years as difficult as it may be perhaps I should find another way of earning a living I was once told by a passerby annoyed at the antics of a fellow cabbie that taxi drivers are the scum of the earth well after today I now believe he is RIGHT !



Was the Caution given to you in the Police Station? If not there's nothing to worry about, IMO the Police have advised you to walk away when this vile individual is in the area to save you from getting in trouble.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 9:55 am 
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Nidge2 wrote:

Was the Caution given to you in the Police Station? If not there's nothing to worry about, IMO the Police have advised you to walk away when this vile individual is in the area to save you from getting in trouble.

I think you are right.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 4:30 pm 
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The general advice is NEVER accept a caution form the police. It will stay on your record for ever and as said above, is an admission of guilt. If the BiB think they've got something on you, let them take it to court. Chances are they won't so you end up with nothing on your record.

There's some good advice on pepipoo about cautions.


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 6:06 pm 
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Caution was issued away from police station so probably not on my record but i am still miffed that the police refuse to do anything about fare evaders assaults thefts of equipment BUT use up time and resources on me for accusing someone of [edited by admin] stirring ? Why is something like that treated as more serious ?

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:54 pm 
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edders23 wrote:
Caution was issued away from police station so probably not on my record but i am still miffed that the police refuse to do anything about fare evaders assaults thefts of equipment BUT use up time and resources on me for accusing someone of [edited by admin] stirring ? Why is something like that treated as more serious ?

I can well understand why you are miffed. Unfortunatly it is one of those things that you need to rise above and hope that what goes around comes around.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 7:56 pm 
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edders23 wrote:
Caution was issued away from police station so probably not on my record but i am still miffed that the police refuse to do anything about fare evaders assaults thefts of equipment BUT use up time and resources on me for accusing someone of [edited by admin] stirring ? Why is something like that treated as more serious ?

If there is an incident, whatever it may be, that you believe merits being reporting, then go to the police station and say unequivocally, 'I wish to make a written statement please'.

Don't discuss the matter, except to briefly state what happened, and keep repeating that you want to make a written statement. Once you have said it to the flunky on the deak and he has refused to facilitate the taking of your statement, ask to see the duty sergeant and do the same with him. If he doesn't take your statement ask to see the duty inspector, but now you are making two statements, one about the incident and one complaining that the sergeant refused to take your statement.

Of course all this must be done in a quiet disciplined manner and with the least discussion about the incident except when they eventually agree to take your statement.

The alternative is to go home and type your statement out and hand it in asking for a receipt when doing so.

I won't accept any copper tells me that they won't take a statement in a matter that I believe warrants reporting.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2012 11:36 am 
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you wernt given a caution you accepted one in other words you plead GUILTY it happens all the time in London you now have the conviction you are required to report that conviction to the licensing Authority who will the possibly cancel your licence.

CAUTIONS CAN ONLY BE ACCEPTED THEY CANT BE GIVEN!

I ALWAYS ISSUE THE SAME ADVICE DOWN HERE

"never ever accept a caution unless you are guilty of the offence phone this number 00000000000 and a solicitor will arrive and deal with your bail and represent you in court for free UNLESS you have already made a statement if you have you are on your own! be prepared for the Copper to tell you

1. These solicitors only deal with housing issues or some such bollocks

2, They will tell you "your being difficult we will keep you here for days"

3. You commie black pakkie arab irish yid git we will make sure yo lose your licence now.

ONLY LAST WEEK A DRIVER ACCEPTED A CAUTIONFOR TOUTING HES NOW OFF THE ROAD WITH A WIFE AND FAMILY TO SUPPORT AND WITH 15 YEARS IN THE INDUSTRY

REALLY HOPE YOU GET OUT OF THIS ONE EDDERS..

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