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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 6:50 pm 
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/news ... taxis.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19927400
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 12, 2012 7:54 pm 
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He said that in neither incident was anyone actually put in danger or hurt, but "in extreme cases, it could affect the ability to steer the steering wheel. It became clear that we have a safety risk there."

He said that he did not know what would be the cost of the fix or how long it would take.

I've not always been a fan of LTI or whatever they are called now, but I don't want to see them go out of business.

But having 100s of dangerous motors and not knowing what to do about it ain't good. :sad:

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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/transport/9604595/Manganese-Bronze-recalls-400-London-taxis.html

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19927400
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So what's the reason to be cheerful then, Skippy?

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So what's the reason to be cheerful then, Skippy?

He really, really, does not like them.

I'd like them if they made a vehicle big enough for an adult to get in the driving seat.

They don't, I don't.

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jimbo wrote:
So what's the reason to be cheerful then, Skippy?

He really, really, does not like them.

I'd like them if they made a vehicle big enough for an adult to get in the driving seat.



that will be something new :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin: :badgrin:

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There has to be more to this than meets the eye.

How much is a new steering box? £300, £500?

Worse case scenario £500 x 400 = £200,000. Is that enough to bankrupt them? :-k

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Re: Manganese Bronze says taxi recall to hit cash
« Reply #3 Yesterday at 6:46pm »

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PCO Notice 17/12
Steering Box Fault in TX4 Taxis
The taxi manufacturer London Taxi Company (LTC) has informed Transport for London, Taxi and Private Hire, of a potential fault within the steering box of TX4 taxi models, within a defined Vehicle Identification Number (VIN) list, which may cause loss of steering control of the vehicle.

LTC has commenced an immediate campaign to identify all the taxis possibly affected by this fault and will then contact the taxi owners to inform them that they should not use the vehicle.

Following advice from LTC to TfL and other licensing authorities around the UK, we regret that TfL has no option but to suspend the vehicle licence of all taxis that have been identified as being within scope of this steering fault.

This suspension takes place with immediate effect.

A list of all affected taxis licensed by TfL (a total of 303 taxis) is provided from page 2 of this notice.

The taxi licence suspension will remain in place until such time as we have confirmation from LTC that any rework and/or repairs to individual taxis have been carried out. This action is being taken to minimise the risk to passengers, drivers and other road users.
Transport for London will be providing a supporting role to assist in ensuring all affected vehicles are identified as soon as possible and providing advice and support to London taxi owners wherever possible.

For further information please see LTC website: www.london-taxis.co.uk or contact the LTC Customer Support line – 02476 572000. For further information please see the attached press statement from LTC.

John Mason

12 October 2012 Director Taxi and Private Hire
For previous PCO Notices visit tfl.gov.uk/tph
List of taxis affected that are licensed in London (as provided to TfL by LTC)
RegNo VIN BJ60HBF
SCRT4H8MKAC209749 GN58JAB
SCRT4HAMKCC212327 JK62KRK
SCRT4HAMKCC212524 KE12LZO SCRT4HAMKCC212206 KE12LZP SCRT4HAMKCC212496 KE12LZR SCRT4HAMKCC212065 KE12LZV SCRT4HAMKCC212547 KE12LZX SCRT4HAMKCC212528 KE12MBF SCRT4HAMKCC212529 KE12MBU SCRT4HAMKCC212519 KE12MBY SCRT4HAMKCC212205 KE12MDJ SCRT4HAMKCC212513 KE12MDX SCRT4HAMKCC212494 KE12MDY SCRT4HAMKCC212226 KE12MDZ SCRT4HAMKCC212203 KE12MEU SCRT4HAMKCC212578 KE12MEV SCRT4HAMKCC212515 KE12MFA SCRT4HAMKCC212204 KE12MFF SCRT4HAMKCC212441 KE12MFK SCRT4HAMKCC212197 KE12MFP SCRT4HAMKCC212517 LL11HRG SCRT4H8MKBC210536 LL11YPA SCRT4H8MKBC210489 LL11YPP SCRT3G8MKAC209915 LL11YPX SCRT4H8MKBC210482 LL12WCK SCRT4HAMKCC211893 LL12WCR SCRT4HAMKCC211998 LL12WCT SCRT4HAMKCC211994 LL12WCV SCRT4HAMKCC212192 LL12WCW SCRT4HAMKCC211997 LL12WCY SCRT4HAMKCC212021 LL12WDD SCRT4HAMKCC212043 LL12WDE SCRT4HAMKCC212032 LL12WDG SCRT4HAMKCC211999 LL12WDN SCRT4HAMKCC212077 LL12WDO SCRT4HAMKCC211996
LL12WDU SCRT4HAMKCC212040 LL60KRU SCRT4H8MKAC209693 LL60VKC SCRT4H8MKAC209724 LL61DEU SCRT4H8MKBC211108 LL61DFJ SCRT4H8MKBC211017 LL61OOD SCRT4H8MKBC211141 LL61OOG SCRT3G8MKBC211236 LL61OPN SCRT4H8MKBC211146 LL61UFR SCRT4H8MKBC211052 LM11BCY SCRT4H8MKBC210333 LM11BDY SCRT4H8MKAC210092 LM11GYW SCRT4H8MKBC210307 LM11SVK SCRT3G8MKAC209606 LM11SVL SCRT4H8MKBC210357 LM11ZHY SCRT3G8MKAC209599 LM11ZKP SCRT3G8MKAC209679 LM12LJN SCRT3G8MKAC209767 LM12LJZ SCRT4HAMKCC211993 LM60YNZ SCRT4H8MKAC209650 LM60YOP SCRT4H8MKAC209837 LM61LJV SCRT4H8MKBC210967 LM61VBC SCRT4H8MKBC211025 LM61VBJ SCRT4H8MKBC210975 LM61VBX SCRT3G8MKBC211163 LM61VCK SCRT3G8MKBC211162 LM62MDK SCRT4HAMKCC212564 LM62MDN SCRT4HAMKCC212710 LM62MFA SCRT4HAMKCC212339 LO11LUP SCRT4H8KKBC210406 LO11LVL SCRT3G8MKAC209914 LO11LVP SCRT4H8MKBC210569 LO11YDK SCRT4H8MKBC210332 LO12LXB SCRT4HAMKCC211991 LO12LXD SCRT4HAMKCC212014 LO12LXE SCRT4HAMKCC212165 LO12LXH SCRT4HAMKCC212173 LO12LXN SCRT4HAMKCC211987 LO12LXP SCRT4HAMKCC212132 LO12LXR SCRT4HAMKCC212221 LO12LXT SCRT4HAMKCC212016 LO12LXV SCRT4HAMKCC212195 LO12LXX SCRT4HAMKCC212042 LO12LXY SCRT4HAMKCC212159
LO12LXZ SCRT4HAMKCC212107 LO12LYA SCRT4HAMKCC212157 LO12LYC SCRT4HAMKCC212038 LO12LYD SCRT4HAMKCC212035 LO12LYH SCRT4HAMKCC212164 LO12LYJ SCRT4HAMKCC212142 LO12LYP SCRT4HAMKCC212039 LO12LYS SCRT4HAMKCC212149 LO12LYT SCRT4HAMKCC212054 LO12LYU SCRT4HAMKCC212144 LO61OPT SCRT4H8MKBC211032 LO61ORA SCRT4H8MKBC211130 LO61XJH SCRT4H8MKBC210955 LO61XJL SCRT4H8MKBC211206 LP11KHM SCRT3G8MKBC210243 LP11VNW SCRT3G8MKBC210136 LP11XDB SCRT3G8MKAC210111 LP12GEY SCRT4HAMKCC212153 LP12GFA SCRT4HAMKCC212180 LP12GFE SCRT4HAMKCC212024 LP12GFJ SCRT4HAMKCC212052 LP12GFO SCRT4HAMKCC212150 LP12GFU SCRT4HAMKCC212174 LP12GFV SCRT4HAMKCC212053 LP12GFX SCRT4HAMKCC212037 LP12GFY SCRT4HAMKCC212008 LP12GFZ SCRT4HAMKCC212115 LP12GGA SCRT4HAMKCC212127 LP12GGF SCRT4HAMKCC212170 LP12GGJ SCRT4HAMKCC212129 LP12GGK SCRT4HAMKCC212175 LP12GGO SCRT4HAMKCC212058 LP12GGU SCRT4HAMKCC212034 LP12GGV SCRT4HAMKCC212172 LP12GGX SCRT4HAMKCC212163 LP12GGY SCRT4HAMKCC212118 LP12GHA SCRT4HAMKCC212146 LP12GHB SCRT4HAMKCC211992 LP12GHD SCRT4HAMKCC212133 LP12GHF SCRT4HAMKCC212167 LP12GHG SCRT4HAMKCC212171 LP12GHH SCRT4HAMKCC212110 LP12GHJ SCRT4HAMKCC212181
LP12GHK SCRT4HAMKCC212123 LP12GHN SCRT4HAMKCC212105 LP12GHO SCRT4HAMKCC212176 LP12GHU SCRT4HAMKCC212104 LP12GHV SCRT4HAMKCC212177 LP12LDK SCRT4HAMKCC212196 LP12LDY SCRT4HAMKCC212182 LP12LEJ SCRT4HAMKCC212081 LP12LFE SCRT4HAMKCC212431 LP12LFG SCRT4HAMKCC212198 LP12LFH SCRT4HAMKCC212109 LP12LFJ SCRT4HAMKCC212060 LP12LFK SCRT4HAMKCC212436 LP12LFV SCRT4HAMKCC212078 LP12LFW SCRT4HAMKCC212188 LP12ZRU SCRT4HAMKCC212080 LP12ZRZ SCRT4HAMKCC212028 LP12ZSK SCRT4HAMKCC212527 LP12ZSX SCRT4HAMKCC212200 LP12ZTC SCRT4HAMKCC212202 LP12ZTF SCRT4HAMKCC212201 LP12ZTJ SCRT3GAMKCC212540 LP60YKV SCRT4H8MKAC210113 LP61JGF SCRT3G8MKBC211312 LP61JHA SCRT4H8MKBC211080 LP61NDC SCRT4H8MKBC211086 LP61NDD SCRT4H8MKBC210870 LP61NDN SCRT3G8MKBC210913 LP61NEJ SCRT3G8MKBC210871 LR12BWA SCRT4HAMKBC211513 LR12TPY SCRT4HAMKBC211616 LR12TTU SCRT4HAMKBC211540 LR61VSU SCRT4H8MKBC210554 LR61VTW SCRT4H8MKBC210905 LR61VTY SCRT4H8MKBC210828 LR62HZJ SCRT4HAMKCC212520 LR62HZK SCRT4HAMKCC212548 LR62HZL SCRT4HAMKCC212555 LR62HZM SCRT3GAMKCC212471 LR62HZN SCRT4HAMKCC212580 LR62HZP SCRT3GAMKCC212474 LR62HZT SCRT4HAMKCC212510 LR62HZV SCRT4HAMKCC212579
LR62HZW SCRT4HAMKCC212207 LR62HZX SCRT4HAMKCC212571 LR62HZY SCRT4HAMKCC212568 LR62HZZ SCRT4HAMKCC212451 LR62JAO SCRT4HAMKCC212505 LR62JAU SCRT4HAMKCC212539 LR62JBO SCRT4HAMKCC212083 LR62JBV SCRT4HAMKCC212333 LR62JBX SCRT4HAMKCC212329 LR62JBY SCRT4HAMKCC212509 LR62JBZ SCRT4HAMKCC212193 LR62JCJ SCRT4HAMKCC212514 LR62JCO SCRT4HAMKCC212572 LR62JCV SCRT3GAMKCC212523 LR62JCY SCRT4HAMKCC212508 LR62JCZ SCRT4HAMKCC212525 LR62JDF SCRT4HAMKCC212199 LR62JDJ SCRT4HAMKCC212459 LR62JDK SCRT4HAMKCC212512 LR62JDO SCRT4HAMKCC212587 LR62JDU SCRT4HAMKCC212544 LR62JDX SCRT4HAMKCC212439 LR62JDZ SCRT4HAMKCC212507 LR62JEJ SCRT4HAMKCC212522 LR62JEO SCRT3GAMKCC212497 LR62JEU SCRT4HAMKCC212549 LR62UDN SCRT4HAMKCC212166 LR62UDO SCRT4HAMKCC212484 LR62UDP SCRT4HAMKCC212586 LR62UDS SCRT4HAMKCC212546 LR62UDT SCRT3GAMKCC212082 LR62UDU SCRT4HAMKCC212178 LR62UDV SCRT4HAMKCC212574 LR62UDW SCRT4HAMKCC212433 LR62UDX SCRT4HAMKCC212592 LR62UDY SCRT4HAMKCC212462 LR62UDZ SCRT4HAMKCC212452 LR62UEA SCRT4HAMKCC212009 LR62UEB SCRT4HAMKCC212362 LR62UED SCRT4HAMKCC212323 LR62UEE SCRT4HAMKCC212443 LR62UEG SCRT4HAMKCC212583 LR62UEH SCRT4HAMKCC212588
LR62UEK SCRT4HAMKCC212552 LR62UEL SCRT4HAMKCC212584 LR62UEM SCRT4HAMKCC212502 LR62UEN SCRT4HAMKCC212295 LR62UEP SCRT4HAMKCC212444 LR62UET SCRT4HAMKCC212577 LR62UEU SCRT4HAMKCC212618 LR62UEV SCRT4HAMKCC212569 LR62UEW SCRT4HAMKCC212430 LR62UEX SCRT4HAMKCC212448 LR62UEY SCRT4HAMKCC212576 LR62UEZ SCRT4HAMKCC212445 LS11EHD SCRT4H8MKBC210265 LS11EHK SCRT4H8MKBC210256 LS11LZA SCRT4H8MKBC210235 LS11LZM SCRT4H8MKBC210454 LS12XTR SCRT4HAMKCC211745 LS61EXZ SCRT4H8MKBC210850 LS61EYC SCRT4H8MKBC210840 LS61EYG SCRT4H8MKBC210927 LS61EYK SCRT4H8MKBC210877 LS61EYT SCRT4H8MKBC210589 LS61EYW SCRT4H8MKBC210831 LS61URW SCRT4H8MKBC210891 LS61URY SCRT3G8MKBC210952 LS61ZTP SCRT4H8MKBC210340 LS61ZUA SCRT4H8MKBC210991 LS61ZVC SCRT4H8MKBC210865 LS61ZVG SCRT3G8MKBC211039 LS61ZVK SCRT4H8MKBC210872 LS62BHL SCRT4HAMKCC212460 LS62BHN SCRT4HAMKCC212560 LS62BHO SCRT4HAMKCC212482 LS62BHP SCRT4HAMKBC211601 LS62BHU SCRT4HAMKCC212545 LS62BHV SCRT4HAMKCC212585 LS62BHW SCRT4HAMKCC212597 LS62BHX SCRT4HAMKCC212434 LS62BHY SCRT4HAMKCC212455 LS62BHZ SCRT4HAMKCC212457 LS62BJF SCRT4HAMKCC212495 LS62BJJ SCRT4HAMKCC212470 LS62BJO SCRT4HAMKCC211956
LS62BJU SCRT4HAMKCC212699 LS62BJV SCRT4HAMKCC212607 LS62BJX SCRT4HAMKCC212596 LS62BJY SCRT4HAMKCC212287 LS62BJZ SCRT4HAMKCC212614 LS62BKA SCRT4HAMKCC211968 LS62BKD SCRT4HAMKCC212598 LS62BKE SCRT4HAMKCC212695 LS62BKG SCRT4HAMKCC212364 LS62BKJ SCRT4HAMKCC212446 LS62BKK SCRT4HAMKCC211950 LS62BKL SCRT4HAMKCC212593 LS62BKN SCRT4HAMKCC212486 LS62BKO SCRT4HAMKCC212601 LS62BKU SCRT4HAMKCC212326 LS62BKV SCRT4HAMKCC212551 LS62BKX SCRT4HAMKCC212612 LS62BKY SCRT4HAMKCC212480 LS62BKZ SCRT4HAMKCC212363 LS62NVC SCRT4HAMKCC211952 LS62NVD SCRT4HAMKCC212475 LS62NVE SCRT4HAMKCC212485 LS62NVF SCRT4HAMKCC212675 LS62NVG SCRT4HAMKCC212561 LS62NVJ SCRT4HAMKCC212553 LS62NVK SCRT4HAMKCC212681 LS62NVM SCRT4HAMKCC212224 LS62NVN SCRT4HAMKCC212334 LS62NVO SCRT4HAMKCC212594 LS62NVP SCRT4HAMKCC212476 LS62NVR SCRT4HAMKCC212605 LS62NVV SCRT4HAMKCC212595 LS62NVW SCRT4HAMKCC212679 LS62NVX SCRT4HAMKCC212610 LS62NVY SCRT4HAMKCC212684 LS62NVZ SCRT4HAMKCC212700 LS62NWB SCRT4HAMKCC212478 LS62NWC SCRT4HAMKCC212488 LS62NWE SCRT4HAMKCC212331 LS62NWG SCRT4HAMKCC212456 LS62NWJ SCRT4HAMKCC212472 LS62NWK SCRT3GAMKCC211988 LT61VTA SCRT4H8MKBC210762
LT61VUK SCRT4H8MKBC210315 LT61ZLK SCRT4H8MKBC210731 P1JCN SCRT4HAMKCC212079 P777KAV SCRT4H8MKBC210203 SK11CAB SCRT3G8MKBC210939 SW62CAB SCRT4HAMKCC211874 TC02CAB SCRT4HAMKCC212487 TC07CAB SCRT4HAMKCC212449 TX04ROB SCRT4H8MKAC209942


FFS 400 cabs off the road immediately, I wonder how many where bought for use outside London???


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 1:40 am 
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If any of you are members of any other taxi forums post my VIN post the quicker they find out they cannot use them the better


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PostPosted: Sat Oct 13, 2012 3:25 am 
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There has to be more to this than meets the eye.

How much is a new steering box? £300, £500?

Worse case scenario £500 x 400 = £200,000. Is that enough to bankrupt them? :-k


Are they available from another supplier though?

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FFS 400 cabs off the road immediately, I wonder how many where bought for use outside London???

The report says 303 licensed in London.

Looking at that it's clear where the huge costs will mount. 400 vehicles off the road could mean millions in claims for loss/rentals if this went on for weeks/months.

Clearly the parts weren't/aren't up to the job, and that's what might be the final nail. :sad:

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This is all part of the chinese plan wait for them to go belly up then step in and snap up the business for £1 they will be 100% chinese owned within 6 months and then skippy they will flood the market and undercut all the European manufacturers and soon TX4's will outnumber everything else :twisted:

Careful what you wish for skippy you might regret what replaces it !

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The hat is being sent around. :roll:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/news ... Geely.html

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If they do go under who will take care of any warranty work???, owners could be left in even more sheit


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Sussex wrote:
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FFS 400 cabs off the road immediately, I wonder how many where bought for use outside London???

The report says 303 licensed in London.

Looking at that it's clear where the huge costs will mount. 400 vehicles off the road could mean millions in claims for loss/rentals if this went on for weeks/months.

Clearly the parts weren't/aren't up to the job, and that's what might be the final nail. :sad:


so seeing as LTi would have bought in the steering boxes the supplier was due a claim too then

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