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PostPosted: Wed Oct 24, 2012 7:28 pm 
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Of course we won't need our own ships or a civil service, will we. #-o



Where's the money coming from China? :lol: :lol: :lol: What do you need to protect anyway?
personally I'd eat grass if it meant the likes of you were no longer my countrymen. As for the money, thats simple. We stop giving it to our sponging neighbours. :p

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Hands up who wants a referendum on GBs membership to the EU :roll:

Salmond knows this is the same up here :wink: He is keeping his cards close to his chest as he wants to appeal to everyone, same with the Nato scenario, he wants to appeal to those in favour of Nato membership, the vote on sunday has strings attached.

What i want out of independence is, A new Beginninng, A new Political system, i want too wipe out our social problem, I want a true sense of identity and i certainly want a referendum on the EU membership.

Imagine the opportunity to wipe out all that is bad about our political system and start afresh, post independence politics hopefully will evolve, the SNP splitting right down the middle in my opinion is not a bad thing :wink: Maybe this is part of the plan ? :D

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Private Reggie wrote:
Hands up who wants a referendum on GBs membership to the EU :roll:

Salmond knows this is the same up here :wink: He is keeping his cards close to his chest as he wants to appeal to everyone, same with the Nato scenario, he wants to appeal to those in favour of Nato membership, the vote on sunday has strings attached.

What i want out of independence is, A new Beginninng, A new Political system, i want too wipe out our social problem, I want a true sense of identity and i certainly want a referendum on the EU membership.

Imagine the opportunity to wipe out all that is bad about our political system and start afresh, post independence politics hopefully will evolve, the SNP splitting right down the middle in my opinion is not a bad thing :wink: Maybe this is part of the plan ? :D


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i want too wipe out our social problem,

Are you proposing a ban on booze? :shock:

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Private Reggie wrote:
Hands up who wants a referendum on GBs membership to the EU :roll:

Salmond knows this is the same up here :wink: He is keeping his cards close to his chest as he wants to appeal to everyone, same with the Nato scenario, he wants to appeal to those in favour of Nato membership, the vote on sunday has strings attached.

What i want out of independence is, A new Beginninng, A new Political system, i want too wipe out our social problem, I want a true sense of identity and i certainly want a referendum on the EU membership.

Imagine the opportunity to wipe out all that is bad about our political system and start afresh, post independence politics hopefully will evolve, the SNP splitting right down the middle in my opinion is not a bad thing :wink: Maybe this is part of the plan ? :D


Wee Eck say's he's not allowed to release the results of legal advice sought on Scotland's behalf regarding our future Status if any within the EU. As it Happens he was Hiding behind this alleged legal advice when there was actually no legal advice to hide behind , he tried to hoodwink his fellow Scots by saying that it was all fine and dandy and that the EU would let us remain members as we are at present.

That was all Bluff of Course, even the EU say's that new nation states must apply to join the EU, That's what we Eck wanted to hide. But if Wee Eck was to go down that line he would be have to put it to the people first to see if any of the people of any new Independent Scotland actually wanted to re join the EU..I'm guessing at least two thirds of us wouldn't want anything to do with a Broken and undemocratic EU...why would we, Hardly makes sense to leave a Union of one sort because we have allegedly less say in it than its other partners just to Join an even bigger Union where we would not only have less say but no say at all on how we run things in Scotland,the equals less independence not more..

Now Wee Eck say's he'll never release the findings of any Future Legal advice he may seek on our EU position...Now, that really does smack of us being run by an Scottish government who lets us have no say in things, This SNP lot Scare me, they are Control freaks who will try and get their own way at any cost and at any lengths and to hell with public opinion.

The Good news is that people are now seeing them in their true light and for what they really are...a bunch of Manipulative Schemers who care not a stuff about you or I..just their own selfish agendas and ends.

It's all falling apart Eck, It's the beginning of your end... :badgrin:


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bloodnock wrote:
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Hands up who wants a referendum on GBs membership to the EU :roll:

Salmond knows this is the same up here :wink: He is keeping his cards close to his chest as he wants to appeal to everyone, same with the Nato scenario, he wants to appeal to those in favour of Nato membership, the vote on sunday has strings attached.

What i want out of independence is, A new Beginninng, A new Political system, i want too wipe out our social problem, I want a true sense of identity and i certainly want a referendum on the EU membership.

Imagine the opportunity to wipe out all that is bad about our political system and start afresh, post independence politics hopefully will evolve, the SNP splitting right down the middle in my opinion is not a bad thing :wink: Maybe this is part of the plan ? :D


Wee Eck say's he's not allowed to release the results of legal advice sought on Scotland's behalf regarding our future Status if any within the EU. As it Happens he was Hiding behind this alleged legal advice when there was actually no legal advice to hide behind , he tried to hoodwink his fellow Scots by saying that it was all fine and dandy and that the EU would let us remain members as we are at present.

That was all Bluff of Course, even the EU say's that new nation states must apply to join the EU, That's what we Eck wanted to hide. But if Wee Eck was to go down that line he would be have to put it to the people first to see if any of the people of any new Independent Scotland actually wanted to re join the EU..I'm guessing at least two thirds of us wouldn't want anything to do with a Broken and undemocratic EU...why would we, Hardly makes sense to leave a Union of one sort because we have allegedly less say in it than its other partners just to Join an even bigger Union where we would not only have less say but no say at all on how we run things in Scotland,the equals less independence not more..

Now Wee Eck say's he'll never release the findings of any Future Legal advice he may seek on our EU position...Now, that really does smack of us being run by an Scottish government who lets us have no say in things, This SNP lot Scare me, they are Control freaks who will try and get their own way at any cost and at any lengths and to hell with public opinion.

The Good news is that people are now seeing them in their true light and for what they really are...a bunch of Manipulative Schemers who care not a stuff about you or I..just their own selfish agendas and ends.

It's all falling apart Eck, It's the beginning of your end... :badgrin:


Typical of you really. twisting the facts to suit your case.

What he said was he wasn't permitted, under ministerial code, to reveal whether they had advice or not.
Your lot just assumed he was hiding something, when in fact he was just doing what every minister of either the Scottish or UK governments was supposed to do.

Strange you didn't kick up a fuss about this last year......
http://www.thecourier.co.uk/News/Politi ... 0.facebook
Still it doesn't fit in with your anti Salmond rhetoric, does it?

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Typical of you really. twisting the facts to suit your case.

What he said was he wasn't permitted, under ministerial code, to reveal whether they had advice or not.
Your lot just assumed he was hiding something, when in fact he was just doing what every minister of either the Scottish or UK governments was supposed to do.

Strange you didn't kick up a fuss about this last year......
http://www.thecourier.co.uk/News/Politi ... 0.facebook
Still it doesn't fit in with your anti Salmond rhetoric, does it?


He gave the impression he had legal advice on the question of Europe, he lied.

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He gave the impression he had legal advice on the question of Europe, he lied.


I disagree.

What Bitter Together and their friends in the Tory press decided to believe and pursue is their problem.
I wonder what the UK government were hiding? Perhaps they too had no advice? #-o
No, can't be that. Only a separatist could be hiding something surely? Unionists are far to honest for that sort of thing :lol: :lol: :lol:

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gusmac wrote:

I disagree.

What Bitter Together and their friends in the Tory press decided to believe and pursue is their problem.
I wonder what the UK government were hiding? Perhaps they too had no advice? #-o
No, can't be that. Only a separatist could be hiding something surely? Unionists are far to honest for that sort of thing :lol: :lol: :lol:


You are a nationalist, you are bound to believe him - you should be perhaps thankful he didnt make any claims about pink elephants - although I imagine to further your cause you'd berate others for that too :wink:

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captain cab wrote:
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I disagree.

What Bitter Together and their friends in the Tory press decided to believe and pursue is their problem.
I wonder what the UK government were hiding? Perhaps they too had no advice? #-o
No, can't be that. Only a separatist could be hiding something surely? Unionists are far to honest for that sort of thing :lol: :lol: :lol:


You are a nationalist, you are bound to believe him - you should be perhaps thankful he didnt make any claims about pink elephants - although I imagine to further your cause you'd berate others for that too :wink:


Does he need to make claims about pink elephants? They'd make it up anyway.

BTW, the Bitter Together mob has quite a few present and former cabinet ministers, including Alistair Darling. All of whom claim the opposite to Salmond re EU entry. Is that based on advice they are not revealing, or are they just using their positions (or former positions) to mislead?
Isn't that lying too or is it OK since they're the good guys, bent on saving Scotland from the despotic Salmond and those traitorous scumbags of the SNP?
Perish the thought? :roll:

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gusmac wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
Private Reggie wrote:
Hands up who wants a referendum on GBs membership to the EU :roll:

Salmond knows this is the same up here :wink: He is keeping his cards close to his chest as he wants to appeal to everyone, same with the Nato scenario, he wants to appeal to those in favour of Nato membership, the vote on sunday has strings attached.

What i want out of independence is, A new Beginninng, A new Political system, i want too wipe out our social problem, I want a true sense of identity and i certainly want a referendum on the EU membership.

Imagine the opportunity to wipe out all that is bad about our political system and start afresh, post independence politics hopefully will evolve, the SNP splitting right down the middle in my opinion is not a bad thing :wink: Maybe this is part of the plan ? :D


Wee Eck say's he's not allowed to release the results of legal advice sought on Scotland's behalf regarding our future Status if any within the EU. As it Happens he was Hiding behind this alleged legal advice when there was actually no legal advice to hide behind , he tried to hoodwink his fellow Scots by saying that it was all fine and dandy and that the EU would let us remain members as we are at present.

That was all Bluff of Course, even the EU say's that new nation states must apply to join the EU, That's what we Eck wanted to hide. But if Wee Eck was to go down that line he would be have to put it to the people first to see if any of the people of any new Independent Scotland actually wanted to re join the EU..I'm guessing at least two thirds of us wouldn't want anything to do with a Broken and undemocratic EU...why would we, Hardly makes sense to leave a Union of one sort because we have allegedly less say in it than its other partners just to Join an even bigger Union where we would not only have less say but no say at all on how we run things in Scotland,the equals less independence not more..

Now Wee Eck say's he'll never release the findings of any Future Legal advice he may seek on our EU position...Now, that really does smack of us being run by an Scottish government who lets us have no say in things, This SNP lot Scare me, they are Control freaks who will try and get their own way at any cost and at any lengths and to hell with public opinion.

The Good news is that people are now seeing them in their true light and for what they really are...a bunch of Manipulative Schemers who care not a stuff about you or I..just their own selfish agendas and ends.

It's all falling apart Eck, It's the beginning of your end... :badgrin:


Typical of you really. twisting the facts to suit your case.

What he said was he wasn't permitted, under ministerial code, to reveal whether they had advice or not.
Your lot just assumed he was hiding something, when in fact he was just doing what every minister of either the Scottish or UK governments was supposed to do.

Strange you didn't kick up a fuss about this last year......
http://www.thecourier.co.uk/News/Politi ... 0.facebook
Still it doesn't fit in with your anti Salmond rhetoric, does it?


Im sure the Ministerial Code would maybe have applied if he had actually sought legal advice..but he Didnt. nor did wee Eck fess up, he got his wee mate Sturgeon to own up for his untruths.

As for the Courier story story..I couldnt comment because i never read it..and besides Im under my own non Ministerial code, so lets keep stuhm like Eck. :lol:


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Typical of you really. twisting the facts to suit your case.

What he said was he wasn't permitted, under ministerial code, to reveal whether they had advice or not.
Your lot just assumed he was hiding something, when in fact he was just doing what every minister of either the Scottish or UK governments was supposed to do.

Strange you didn't kick up a fuss about this last year......
http://www.thecourier.co.uk/News/Politi ... 0.facebook
Still it doesn't fit in with your anti Salmond rhetoric, does it?


He gave the impression he had legal advice on the question of Europe, he lied.


Yes he did..and Independent investigators will look into whether the Wee Eck breached the ministerial code..Provided they are truly Independent they might just find him Guilty, but as he's slipped through their slippery little fingers five times before I rather wonder as to their impartiality.


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gusmac wrote:
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gusmac wrote:

I disagree.

What Bitter Together and their friends in the Tory press decided to believe and pursue is their problem.
I wonder what the UK government were hiding? Perhaps they too had no advice? #-o
No, can't be that. Only a separatist could be hiding something surely? Unionists are far to honest for that sort of thing :lol: :lol: :lol:


You are a nationalist, you are bound to believe him - you should be perhaps thankful he didnt make any claims about pink elephants - although I imagine to further your cause you'd berate others for that too :wink:


Does he need to make claims about pink elephants? They'd make it up anyway.

BTW, the Bitter Together mob has quite a few present and former cabinet ministers, including Alistair Darling. All of whom claim the opposite to Salmond re EU entry. Is that based on advice they are not revealing, or are they just using their positions (or former positions) to mislead?
Isn't that lying too or is it OK since they're the good guys, bent on saving Scotland from the despotic Salmond and those traitorous scumbags of the SNP?
Perish the thought? :roll:



Who exactly is the Minister for Propoganda that writes all the SNP drivel that you Indy types are being brainwashed with, I applaud who ever it is because they've got you all believing any old tripe they want you to believe or repeat...cant be Goebbels, cos he's dead. :?


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captain cab wrote:
Private Reggie wrote:
Hands up who wants a referendum on GBs membership to the EU :roll:

Salmond knows this is the same up here :wink: He is keeping his cards close to his chest as he wants to appeal to everyone, same with the Nato scenario, he wants to appeal to those in favour of Nato membership, the vote on sunday has strings attached.

What i want out of independence is, A new Beginninng, A new Political system, i want too wipe out our social problem, I want a true sense of identity and i certainly want a referendum on the EU membership.

Imagine the opportunity to wipe out all that is bad about our political system and start afresh, post independence politics hopefully will evolve, the SNP splitting right down the middle in my opinion is not a bad thing :wink: Maybe this is part of the plan ? :D


are you sure you're Scottish?

Thanks for the compliment :D

One thing for sure, there is a lot of second guessing the game Salmond is playing, cmon he is playing a good game, the unionist's scaremongering, the press speculate then the unionist's fall for the press speculation, Salmond play's along :-"

Salmond knows one thing is for sure, its the end of the road for the SNP but not as you the unionist's would know it, its job done guy's he has delivered the referendum and with a hard core of supporters (37%) He has given the YES campaign a real chance of independence, Freedom Beckons, we rise to be a nation again :D

Salmond knows the SNP will split right down the middle post independence, politics will evolve and definitly for the better, a politics that is shaped by the people of Scotland as our voices will become more significant, hey our votes certainly will, under an independent governement, politicians will become massiivley more accountable.

All unlike the Westminster government David Cameron is trying to shape to favour a Tory government forever more, don't get me wrong im centre right myself but the Tories are so far right they don't even know it, they don't give a shect (1979+)Little Englanders you will never have the chance to change your political system, WE do, look on with envy boys and girls, its happening, 2014 Voting YES and Proud to do so :D

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Private Reggie wrote:
captain cab wrote:
Private Reggie wrote:
Hands up who wants a referendum on GBs membership to the EU :roll:

Salmond knows this is the same up here :wink: He is keeping his cards close to his chest as he wants to appeal to everyone, same with the Nato scenario, he wants to appeal to those in favour of Nato membership, the vote on sunday has strings attached.

What i want out of independence is, A new Beginninng, A new Political system, i want too wipe out our social problem, I want a true sense of identity and i certainly want a referendum on the EU membership.

Imagine the opportunity to wipe out all that is bad about our political system and start afresh, post independence politics hopefully will evolve, the SNP splitting right down the middle in my opinion is not a bad thing :wink: Maybe this is part of the plan ? :D


are you sure you're Scottish?

Thanks for the compliment :D

One thing for sure, there is a lot of second guessing the game Salmond is playing, cmon he is playing a good game, the unionist's scaremongering, the press speculate then the unionist's fall for the press speculation, Salmond play's along :-"

Salmond knows one thing is for sure, its the end of the road for the SNP but not as you the unionist's would know it, its job done guy's he has delivered the referendum and with a hard core of supporters (37%) He has given the YES campaign a real chance of independence, Freedom Beckons, we rise to be a nation again :D

Salmond knows the SNP will split right down the middle post independence, politics will evolve and definitly for the better, a politics that is shaped by the people of Scotland as our voices will become more significant, hey our votes certainly will, under an independent governement, politicians will become massiivley more accountable.

All unlike the Westminster government David Cameron is trying to shape to favour a Tory government forever more, don't get me wrong im centre right myself but the Tories are so far right they don't even know it, they don't give a shect (1979+)Little Englanders you will never have the chance to change your political system, WE do, look on with envy boys and girls, its happening, 2014 Voting YES and Proud to do so :D


Aye..Salmonds a wily Character..but the Job's not done, Independence wont happen and even the SNP members are so Impatient with the delays of a vote that they are Tearing themselves apart already...already two of em's walked out.


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