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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:08 pm 
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Yes he did..and Independent investigators will look into whether the Wee Eck breached the ministerial code..Provided they are truly Independent they might just find him Guilty, but as he's slipped through their slippery little fingers five times before I rather wonder as to their impartiality.


Could it be that he actually didn't breach the ministerial code?
Nope, not possible in the court of unionist opinion. :shock:

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:25 pm 
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Aye..Salmonds a wily Character..but the Job's not done, Independence wont happen and even the SNP members are so Impatient with the delays of a vote that they are Tearing themselves apart already...already two of em's walked out.


Two have left the SNP. Both are still members of the YES campaign, and both have said they will continue to support the Scottish government in all matters, except NATO membership.

It's a question of principle for them, not a thing you will find in any abundance in the NO camp. :wink:

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:37 pm 
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Hands up who wants a referendum on GBs membership to the EU :roll:

Salmond knows this is the same up here :wink: He is keeping his cards close to his chest as he wants to appeal to everyone, same with the Nato scenario, he wants to appeal to those in favour of Nato membership, the vote on sunday has strings attached.

What i want out of independence is, A new Beginninng, A new Political system, i want too wipe out our social problem, I want a true sense of identity and i certainly want a referendum on the EU membership.

Imagine the opportunity to wipe out all that is bad about our political system and start afresh, post independence politics hopefully will evolve, the SNP splitting right down the middle in my opinion is not a bad thing :wink: Maybe this is part of the plan ? :D


are you sure you're Scottish?

Thanks for the compliment :D

One thing for sure, there is a lot of second guessing the game Salmond is playing, cmon he is playing a good game, the unionist's scaremongering, the press speculate then the unionist's fall for the press speculation, Salmond play's along :-"

Salmond knows one thing is for sure, its the end of the road for the SNP but not as you the unionist's would know it, its job done guy's he has delivered the referendum and with a hard core of supporters (37%) He has given the YES campaign a real chance of independence, Freedom Beckons, we rise to be a nation again :D

Salmond knows the SNP will split right down the middle post independence, politics will evolve and definitly for the better, a politics that is shaped by the people of Scotland as our voices will become more significant, hey our votes certainly will, under an independent governement, politicians will become massiivley more accountable.

All unlike the Westminster government David Cameron is trying to shape to favour a Tory government forever more, don't get me wrong im centre right myself but the Tories are so far right they don't even know it, they don't give a shect (1979+)Little Englanders you will never have the chance to change your political system, WE do, look on with envy boys and girls, its happening, 2014 Voting YES and Proud to do so :D


I agree the SNP won't survive much past independence, certainly not in it's present form.
I don't see it splitting down the middle though. A handful of separate factions is more likely, some of which will join other parties or form their own.

Big changes for the other parties too, once they're freed from London control and have to put Scotland first.

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:39 pm 
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gusmac wrote:
bloodnock wrote:
Yes he did..and Independent investigators will look into whether the Wee Eck breached the ministerial code..Provided they are truly Independent they might just find him Guilty, but as he's slipped through their slippery little fingers five times before I rather wonder as to their impartiality.


Could it be that he actually didn't breach the ministerial code?
Nope, not possible in the court of unionist opinion. :shock:


Could it be possible he did...he lied, he said what he said, it's recorded...whether he get's off is another thing, but we know what he said is fact...


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:45 pm 
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Could it be that he actually didn't breach the ministerial code?
Nope, not possible in the court of unionist opinion. :shock:


Could it be possible he did...he lied, he said what he said, it's recorded...whether he get's off is another thing, but we know what he said is fact...


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Provided they are truly Independent they might just find him Guilty, but as he's slipped through their slippery little fingers five times before I rather wonder as to their impartiality.


Fortunately, they tend to be far more impartial than you. :p

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 5:57 pm 
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Two have left the SNP. Both are still members of the YES campaign, and both have said they will continue to support the Scottish government in all matters, except NATO membership.


They'd be stupid to Vote yes unless they are prepared to accept Membership of NATO...because that would be what they'd get if it ever happened, which it never will.

No wonder the majority of voters in Scotland still capable of free thought are for voting "NO"...you just have to look closer at the Indy crew to see what a fractious bunch they all are... :lol:


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2012 6:04 pm 
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Two have left the SNP. Both are still members of the YES campaign, and both have said they will continue to support the Scottish government in all matters, except NATO membership.


They'd be stupid to Vote yes unless they are prepared to accept Membership of NATO...because that would be what they'd get if it ever happened, which it never will.

No wonder the majority of voters in Scotland still capable of free thought are for voting "NO"...you just have to look closer at the Indy crew to see what a fractious bunch they all are... :lol:


Just shows the stupidity of your thinking. You think a NO vote will ever see Scotland leave NATO? #-o

If you ever learn the difference between Alex Salmond, the SNP, and Independence, you might just figure out why it is you are going to lose.

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gusmac wrote:
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Could it be that he actually didn't breach the ministerial code?
Nope, not possible in the court of unionist opinion. :shock:


Could it be possible he did...he lied, he said what he said, it's recorded...whether he get's off is another thing, but we know what he said is fact...


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Provided they are truly Independent they might just find him Guilty, but as he's slipped through their slippery little fingers five times before I rather wonder as to their impartiality.


Fortunately, they tend to be far more impartial than you. :p


Theres no point in being Impartial as a Voter...nothing would ever happen if everyone agreed on everything, that make's it a good kind of Impartial, a working practical kind of impartial that gets things done

But Impartiality is a completely different matter when it comes to being administered by Justice seekers, That's where Impartiality is a prerequisite for a fair outcome. now in all fairness to Eck, If his truly Impartial Independent investigators say he's done nowt wrong then that's fine..but it's already to late, he has already self planted the seeds of doubt in even more of the Scottish Electorates minds, People will remember him more for his trying to mislead them than they will for his attempt at trying to weasel his way out of it..


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Two have left the SNP. Both are still members of the YES campaign, and both have said they will continue to support the Scottish government in all matters, except NATO membership.


They'd be stupid to Vote yes unless they are prepared to accept Membership of NATO...because that would be what they'd get if it ever happened, which it never will.

No wonder the majority of voters in Scotland still capable of free thought are for voting "NO"...you just have to look closer at the Indy crew to see what a fractious bunch they all are... :lol:


Just shows the stupidity of your thinking. You think a NO vote will ever see Scotland leave NATO? #-o

If you ever learn the difference between Alex Salmond, the SNP, and Independence, you might just figure out why it is you are going to lose.


I really Do not care If there Is any Difference between them...they all want Independence and that as simple as it gets...and as the referendums purely about Indepedence then it matters not a stuff about their individual loopy lou policies.

Now Please, Sit down, chill out and take a reality Pill if required...The Fact Is that now, just as it was years ago, about 2/3rds of the Scottish electorate want nothing to do with being an Independent country.

So, get off your Propogandist High Horse and accept the fact, You Know you'll feel better for Confronting your inner fears and letting all that pent up frustration out...now, after me, deep breaths...breathe innnnnnnnnnnnnnn....breathe outtttttttttt, that's it, continue that for ten more minutes and after that all the badness will have left your body. :lol:


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Just shows the stupidity of your thinking. You think a NO vote will ever see Scotland leave NATO? #-o

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Ooops :lol:

http://www.publications.parliament.uk/p ... 43/m05.htm

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For practical and political reasons the idea of Scotland leaving the EU, and subsequently applying to join it, is not feasible.

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From the political point of view, Scotland has been in the EU for 40 years; and its people have acquired rights as European citizens. If they wish to remain in the EU, they could hardly be asked to leave and then reapply for membership in the same way as the people of a non-member country

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Oh, on the Nukes question. I spoke to someone from Nato on the way to a conference.

He was going on about Deep Water Sites that must be a certain amount of miles away from densely populated areas. In short, he didnt think England, Wales or NI had any suitable sites. But lets face it, the remainder of the UK is not going to swallow being the most proliferated country in the world with nuclear warheads as Scotland are at the moment.


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lolololol, funny A.Darling came up, he was in my taxi last week. Blethered away, but he couldn't answer my question;

"Al, I worked in the Finance industry as a Salesman. I sold into every major bank and had them all except 1 as clients. Over 8 years I done 500 business meetings. The thing I don't understand is that what is purported to be a Scottish industry, only 5 of 500 business meetings (other than folk coming to see me), were in Scotland. Can you explain that Al?"

I had to answer it for him - because every successive Westminster Government has actively pushed private business south - including banking leaving very little private business in Scotland.


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