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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2012 8:37 pm 
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So that’s your reason for voting for Independence? You just happen to want the same as them, and you think it’s a good idea to hand them power over you, and everyone else for that matter. #-o


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So that’s your reason for voting for Independence? You just happen to want the same as them, and you think it’s a good idea to hand them power over you, and everyone else for that matter. #-o


I'm not handing them anything they or the ones in Westminster don't already have.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:57 am 
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And as for the snp all iv seen is the call for more laws to be tightened on the scottish people, just imagine what would happen should these right wing morons gain independence


If you think the SNP are right wing, what do you call SLAB?[/quot


My recent dealings with politicians and my local mp whom is labour left me feeling saddened but some what informed about these self serving lowlifes

She tried her best to avoid helping me because she wanted to tow the party line, my problem did not suit her agenda , so no real help was offered

Sadly they are all the same, in the job for the money and to stroke there egos


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 10:49 am 
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So let me see if I've got this right.

Your local LABOUR MP is a useless tw4t who won't help you and this makes the SNP right wing?? :?

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Now Now i never said that, lol have you tried politics by the way,? coz you have got the knack of spinning

The snp are right wing because they are, its got nowt to do with the lack o help i got from my local labour MP


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 4:02 pm 
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Council Tax freeze
No tuition fees
Continuing Universal benefits
No prescription charges
Removal of Trident

And now this:

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Government commits to £7.45 Scottish Living Wage

05/11/2012

Finance Secretary John Swinney today announced a new living wage of £7.45 for employees working in parts of the public sector under the Government’s pay policy and urged employers in the private, public and third sectors to follow suit.

The commitment is in line with the Scottish Living Wage Campaign and the Living Wage Foundation’s new recommended living wage announced today, £7.45 per hour, which encourages employers to ensure all staff on lower incomes receive a fair level of pay. The requirement to pay a living wage was introduced in the Scottish Government’s pay policy in 2011-12, benefiting approximately 6,000 workers. This new rate of £7.45 will potentially benefit up to 3,300 workers.

The Scottish Government has control over wage levels for most civil servants in central government, government agencies, non-departmental public bodies (NDPBs) and the NHS. The new rate will apply as of 1 April 2013, which is the start of the next public sector pay round.

Finance Secretary John Swinney said:

“The Scottish Government is committed to the Scottish Living Wage and we fully support the principles of the Living Wage Campaign, which encourages all employers to reward their staff fairly. That is why the commitment to pay the Living Wage is part of the Scottish Government’s public sector pay policy for the third year running.

“Since 2011, this Government has ensured all staff within our responsibility are paid a living wage and we would encourage all public, private and third sector organisations to recognise the benefits of this approach and do likewise. Furthermore, our pay policy recognises the importance of supporting those on low incomes and provides for a minimum basic pay increase of £250 for all staff earning under £21,000.

“The draft budget demonstrated our focus on growth and supporting hard pressed families and individuals, which is why we have retained our commitment to a council tax freeze, free nursery education, Free persona care, no tuition fees and free prescriptions. We have also provided job security for many through our commitment to a no compulsory redundancy policy.

“The living wage is a positive step that all employers can take to help boost consumer confidence, strengthen economic recovery, while helping to provide certainty for individuals and families who are already dealing with pressures on family budgets.”

Chair of the Scottish Living Wage Campaign Peter Kelly said:

“With the problem of in-work poverty continuing to increase, the Scottish Government’s continued support for the Living Wage must be congratulated. Today’s announcement will ensure that some of the lowest paid workers in the public sector will receive a wage increase that will provide real help in these difficult times. We look forward to working with the Scottish Government to ensure that more employees across Scotland can get the benefit of the living wage.”


Not really right wing stuff, is it?
This is where the Scottish Labour Party should be Sunset, instead of trying to out do the Tories for right wing policies.
The SNP aren't left wing enough for my taste, but these days, out of the main parties, they're the only left leaning one.

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/News/Release ... wage051112

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 6:21 pm 
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Council Tax freeze
No tuition fees
Continuing Universal benefits
No prescription charges
Removal of Trident

And now this:

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Government commits to £7.45 Scottish Living Wage

05/11/2012

Finance Secretary John Swinney today announced a new living wage of £7.45 for employees working in parts of the public sector under the Government’s pay policy and urged employers in the private, public and third sectors to follow suit.

The commitment is in line with the Scottish Living Wage Campaign and the Living Wage Foundation’s new recommended living wage announced today, £7.45 per hour, which encourages employers to ensure all staff on lower incomes receive a fair level of pay. The requirement to pay a living wage was introduced in the Scottish Government’s pay policy in 2011-12, benefiting approximately 6,000 workers. This new rate of £7.45 will potentially benefit up to 3,300 workers.

The Scottish Government has control over wage levels for most civil servants in central government, government agencies, non-departmental public bodies (NDPBs) and the NHS. The new rate will apply as of 1 April 2013, which is the start of the next public sector pay round.

Finance Secretary John Swinney said:

“The Scottish Government is committed to the Scottish Living Wage and we fully support the principles of the Living Wage Campaign, which encourages all employers to reward their staff fairly. That is why the commitment to pay the Living Wage is part of the Scottish Government’s public sector pay policy for the third year running.

“Since 2011, this Government has ensured all staff within our responsibility are paid a living wage and we would encourage all public, private and third sector organisations to recognise the benefits of this approach and do likewise. Furthermore, our pay policy recognises the importance of supporting those on low incomes and provides for a minimum basic pay increase of £250 for all staff earning under £21,000.

“The draft budget demonstrated our focus on growth and supporting hard pressed families and individuals, which is why we have retained our commitment to a council tax freeze, free nursery education, Free persona care, no tuition fees and free prescriptions. We have also provided job security for many through our commitment to a no compulsory redundancy policy.

“The living wage is a positive step that all employers can take to help boost consumer confidence, strengthen economic recovery, while helping to provide certainty for individuals and families who are already dealing with pressures on family budgets.”

Chair of the Scottish Living Wage Campaign Peter Kelly said:

“With the problem of in-work poverty continuing to increase, the Scottish Government’s continued support for the Living Wage must be congratulated. Today’s announcement will ensure that some of the lowest paid workers in the public sector will receive a wage increase that will provide real help in these difficult times. We look forward to working with the Scottish Government to ensure that more employees across Scotland can get the benefit of the living wage.”


Not really right wing stuff, is it?
This is where the Scottish Labour Party should be Sunset, instead of trying to out do the Tories for right wing policies.
The SNP aren't left wing enough for my taste, but these days, out of the main parties, they're the only left leaning one.

http://www.scotland.gov.uk/News/Release ... wage051112


Gusmac, they are simply trying to buy the vote for Independence. You can expect to see a lot of this kind of stuff in the coming months. I wouldn't go patting yourself on the back, just quite yet... :-|


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 8:59 pm 
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Gusmac, they are simply trying to buy the vote for Independence. You can expect to see a lot of this kind of stuff in the coming months. I wouldn't go patting yourself on the back, just quite yet... :-|


Yeah yeah :roll:

After independence, Salmond rips off the disguise and he's actually Hitler reincarnated.
Swinney is really Himmler and it's Auschwitz for everyone. Image Have you been reading the Scotsman BTW?

Now whether or not you believe the sincerity of the SNP Skull, you have to admit SLAB have abandoned any pretence of being a socialist party.

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2012 9:34 pm 
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Gusmac, they are simply trying to buy the vote for Independence. You can expect to see a lot of this kind of stuff in the coming months. I wouldn't go patting yourself on the back, just quite yet... :-|


Yeah yeah :roll:

After independence, Salmond rips off the disguise and he's actually Hitler reincarnated.
Swinney is really Himmler and it's Auschwitz for everyone. Image Have you been reading the Scotsman BTW?

Now whether or not you believe the sincerity of the SNP Skull, you have to admit SLAB have abandoned any pretence of being a socialist party.


So let me get this right, you believe the current polyarchy is doing this because of their love for equality and the Scottish people. It has nothing to do with empowering themselves through buying the vote for Independence?


This is what you believe Gusmac?


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What I believe is none of your concern BritNat.

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What I believe is none of your concern BritNat.


I don't think you know what you believe. It's like you are looking at the world through tartan tinted spectacles. You seem to want Independence but when it comes to explaining why, you have no idea where to start. #-o

If Independence does come, you will have corrupt unaccountable politicians who don't give a [edited by admin] about the people of Scotland. Eh now let me think, don't we have that already? :? #-o


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Yup they will be tripping over each other to share the wealth of this great nation with its people. there will be no more lies corruption or cosey meetings where cash changes hands for bus business

freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedom


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:08 pm 
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What I believe is none of your concern BritNat.


I don't think you know what you believe. It's like you are looking at the world through tartan tinted spectacles. You seem to want Independence but when it comes to explaining why, you have no idea where to start. #-o


Try asking the average Brit if he would like to downgrade his countries status to that of a region, handing powers over defence, foreign and fiscal policy to Brussels, Berlin or Paris.
I think you already know the answer. :shock:
Yet those same people seem to think it's ok when Scotland is run this way by them :? #-o

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If Independence does come, you will have corrupt unaccountable politicians who don't give a [edited by admin] about the people of Scotland. Eh now let me think, don't we have that already? :? #-o


Yes we do. In fact we have two layers of it - three, if you count the crony club that is the House of Lords.
Independence will sweep away two of these, leaving one which we must make accountable. It's our job to make sure that happens.
With independence it might happen. Stay in the union and it never will.

If you want cast iron guarantees Skull, you're not going to get them. Rome wasn't built in a day.
I will guarantee you this much - nothing will change under the union, except for the worse.

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Yup they will be tripping over each other to share the wealth of this great nation with its people. there will be no more lies corruption or cosey meetings where cash changes hands for bus business

freeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedom


With that attitude, Rome would never have been built at all. :roll:

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Gusmac afore the days of the union Scotland was not a great place to live it was no place to be a minyon, there was no great political system which produced anything like the Scotland the snp and yourself are being romantic about


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