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The decision would have been made by whatever government Scotland had elected.
Who are you to say that government would have been SNP or that Alex Salmond would have been FM?

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You don't really believe that the people of Scotland have to ask for permission to be independent, any more than the Icelanders asking if they can free themselves from the Danes? We are not asking for anyone's permission. It's our decision and it always has been.

I think you've spent too long blaming the English for Scotland's lack of backbone.

Now where did you get that from this?

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Correct. You win a cookie.


I blame the Scots for their own lack of a spine, nobody else. Don't ever imagine otherwise.

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What don't you get?????

If that's the case then why doesn't England just impose its will on Scotland, problem solved?

Did you miss this bit?



It does when it wants to.

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It's you who doesn't get it.

Without independence, Iceland's banks would have been Danish banks, their collapse would have been a problem for the whole of Denmark, not just Iceland.
The solution would have been Denmark's decision and the Icelanders would not have had any say in the matter.

Now what bit of that don't you get?

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Whats really confusing about Skull is he shouts about how un-accountable Politicians are and indicates our current political system is corrupt to the core BUT he is voting for the status quo, either by voting or not voting


I would have thought he would vote YES just for the chance of change

Skull you will vote YES because i know you are a man with/of integrity

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Alway's been about Tightening the Grip!

Oh don't talk nonsense.

This control England has over Scotland is all in your head. And just like Iceland there is nothing stopping us from walking away and taking control for ourselves, if that's what we want.

The only thing keeping the Union together is the will of the Scottish people for the Union, it has little to do with Ian bloody Cameron or any of these other numpties down south.

We are not freeing ourselves from anyone. No one has a gun to our heads, and the troops won't take to the streets if we choose, to go it alone.

You need to give yourself a shake gusmac. You don't live on some croft somewhere on the Outer Hebrides do you?

The reason we don’t have independence is because the Scottish people don’t want it. However, if this was to change sometime in the future you will have your Independence. The only thing driving this debate is the Scottish people and for the most part. They don’t care. They are happy with, the Union.

THE END

And when was the last time in our lifetime did we have the Vote? You know a YES or a no vote for full independence?

I totally disagree with your post, im voting for change, the change you have been shouting about for years, A more accountable POLITICAL system Skull, thanks man, brainwash me, line me up by agreeing the political system is fecked and then you run away from the debate, well i fecking never

Line the fecker up against the WALL

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Alway's been about Tightening the Grip!

Exactly Reggie.

The housing estate is still in the planning stage but Skull won't buy one unless his house is decorated to his taste NOW and they lay his lawn out first.
He makes no sense at all.

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If its still at the planing stage how do you know what your buying

what is going to change to make them more accountable?

It will be the same politicians talking the same shect


Now tell me did Souter buy Salmond out on the bus issue?

You are deluding yourself if you believe the English have anything to do with denying Scotland its Independence. There are simply not enough, people wanting independence. And you will be faced with exactly the same problem when you get your chance to vote. If enough people cared, we wouldn't be having this debate, it would be a done deal.

You can start by reading the white paper when it's published.


That's up to us. We will have a written constitution, which is more than we've had up till now.
If they are no more accountable, it will be because we let it happen.

One thing for sure, nothing will change on that score if we vote No.



Some of the same politicians I should think. Unless they all decide to jump off the North bridge in bitter unison
BTW Politicians usually talk shecht. It goes with the territory.



I don't know and TBH I don't give a shit.

It's not about Salmond or the SNP. It's about Independence, and that's bigger than both of them.

The NO camp need to start debating the issues instead of the personalities.
How do they see Scotland, should we vote NO? They never seem to be able to tell us that.

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