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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2012 8:25 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
heres the first paragraph of my dual badge licence
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"We the Lichfield District Council in accordance with the provisons of the Town, Police Clauses act 1847 and the Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) act 1976 and upon application

Of...................
of address.......................

Hereby licence the above person as a driver of any hackney carriage licensed to ply for hire with in the area of the District Council , or any private hire vehicle licensed by Lichfield District Council"

And what happens if I don't want to be licensed as a private hire driver and vica-versa?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:49 am 
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Did you get any more on this, 2 Jobs???


Nothing further has happened yet.

BC did the scan of the paper license reach you OK?

I am going to renew my badge this week. I will ask if a HC driver can choose not to have a dual badge.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2012 12:26 pm 
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Brummie Cabbie wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
heres the first paragraph of my dual badge licence
Quote:
"We the Lichfield District Council in accordance with the provisons of the Town, Police Clauses act 1847 and the Local Government (Miscellaneous Provisions) act 1976 and upon application

Of...................
of address.......................

Hereby licence the above person as a driver of any hackney carriage licensed to ply for hire with in the area of the District Council , or any private hire vehicle licensed by Lichfield District Council"

And what happens if I don't want to be licensed as a private hire driver and vica-versa?


why would a dual badge be a problem?

or would you prefer a LA to charge for 1 then charge again if the other was needed, even I can work out thats a bad idea, its the same test, same "knowledge", same CRB and same medical....

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:17 pm 
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I hate dual badges with a passion.


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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 1:24 pm 
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Renewed my badge and am pleased it is a dual badge.

With our LA there are 2 options: PH only or PH & Hackney. To get a PH badge there are fewer topographical knowledge questions. I'd forgotten that!

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 2:11 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
why would a dual badge be a problem?

or would you prefer a LA to charge for 1 then charge again if the other was needed, even I can work out thats a bad idea, its the same test, same "knowledge", same CRB and same medical....

Hackney drivers are goverened by by laws and private hire by conditions. Some of the conditions that are put on private hire could not be put into bylaws. So by issuing duel badges councils have a back door into putting conditions onto hackney drivers.

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grandad wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
why would a dual badge be a problem?

or would you prefer a LA to charge for 1 then charge again if the other was needed, even I can work out thats a bad idea, its the same test, same "knowledge", same CRB and same medical....

Hackney drivers are goverened by by laws and private hire by conditions. Some of the conditions that are put on private hire could not be put into bylaws. So by issuing duel badges councils have a back door into putting conditions onto hackney drivers.


My back doors my business

Any unfair "conditions" put on Hacks would be fought by drivers and I cant see what conditions you imply anyway

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 3:57 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
Any unfair "conditions" put on Hacks would be fought by drivers and I cant see what conditions you imply anyway

I am not implying any conditions in particular. But councils can't put conditions on a hackney drivers badge but they can on a PH drivers badge.

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grandad wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
Any unfair "conditions" put on Hacks would be fought by drivers and I cant see what conditions you imply anyway

I am not implying any conditions in particular. But councils can't put conditions on a hackney drivers badge but they can on a PH drivers badge.


such as?

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2012 8:25 pm 
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wannabeeahack wrote:
such as?

Such as any.

No conditions can be put on a hackney driver's license.

None at all.

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Sussex wrote:
wannabeeahack wrote:
such as?

Such as any.

No conditions can be put on a hackney driver's license.

None at all.


well i have a hack licence with no conditions, it includes (and runs concurrent with) a PH badge

If I were to work for a hack base with a ph vehicle i could drive either with no 2nd badge cost

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:40 pm 
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Conditions such as you must wear a uniform or you must inform the Council immediately if you get a conviction or even a caution or a condition that you can only work 8 hours a day. A Council can put any conditions it feels are fair and reasonable on a ph drivers licence, then it is up to the driver to challenge the conditions in the magistrates court. A has been already started hackney drivers can not have conditions put on their licences they are governed by primary legislation and byelaws. Presumably a Council could make dual licence holders follow the conditions that are put on the private hire part of the licence.


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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2012 11:42 pm 
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silvercab wrote:
Conditions such as you must wear a uniform or you must inform the Council immediately if you get a conviction or even a caution or a condition that you can only work 8 hours a day. A Council can put any conditions it feels are fair and reasonable on a ph drivers licence, then it is up to the driver to challenge the conditions in the magistrates court. A has been already started hackney drivers can not have conditions put on their licences they are governed by primary legislation and byelaws. Presumably a Council could make dual licence holders follow the conditions that are put on the private hire part of the licence.



Hence dual licenses are the seed of the devil. :wink:

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captain cab wrote:
silvercab wrote:
Conditions such as you must wear a uniform or you must inform the Council immediately if you get a conviction or even a caution or a condition that you can only work 8 hours a day. A Council can put any conditions it feels are fair and reasonable on a ph drivers licence, then it is up to the driver to challenge the conditions in the magistrates court. A has been already started hackney drivers can not have conditions put on their licences they are governed by primary legislation and byelaws. Presumably a Council could make dual licence holders follow the conditions that are put on the private hire part of the licence.



Hence dual licenses are the seed of the devil. :wink:


but cheaper than 2 licences....lol

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 10:04 am 
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BC did the scan of the paper license reach you OK?

I have not received anything.

Where did you send it to?

Can you email it to me please at brummiecabbie@hotmail.co.uk

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