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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:33 am 
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everybody I know is on more than the NMW


Bollocks!! Not if you calculate the amount of hours you actually work in relation to all the benefits, like pensions, sick pay and holiday pay, you don't get. Unless of course, you are one of these special cabbies that make twice as much as everyone else. It's not the top but the bottom line that counts. :-|


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Not really, I left all that [edited by admin] behind me, when I got out. I think I only frequent this forum for a bit of light amusement and to see if anything ever changes, but it never really does. :-|



well you have lightened up a little :wink: :lol: :lol:

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 2:55 am 
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Not really, I left all that [edited by admin] behind me, when I got out. I think I only frequent this forum for a bit of light amusement and to see if anything ever changes, but it never really does. :-|



well you have lightened up a little :wink: :lol: :lol:


It's people like wannabeeahack that keep me going. I've come to realise that. However, bad it is for me. I could have been born a complete ar*e like him.

You might say, this forum gives me a new-found sense of appreciation. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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So you've left the trade yet still come peeking to see whats going on. I think maybe you had the wrong attitude towards being a taxi driver and that's why it wasn't for you. If you think everything you do and the people you carry are [edited by admin] and that the whole world is against you then it must be one lonely life. If you treat your customers with respect they respect you back and return again and again. it works well for us and that is how its provided for my family for 26 years now and a very good provider it has been


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 9:47 am 
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The trade or job if you want to call it that has it's up's and downs. On the whole most people are appreciative by way that what you do for them is in their interests as well as oneself..... TIPS!! It's not the best of jobs, but then where else can you pick the hours to work and for how long? Granted the first few years can be arduous paying off finance etc, etc, but it all goes against tax, so don't expect to make much initially. My experience over the last 30 years has seen a lot of sh*te, but it payed the mortgage, bills etc and now I can take it easy for the last few years of my working life.
I avoid the aholes and obnoxious people by just being polite and asking them to take the next one please. If the driver behind complains as they often do, especially if he or she is an ahole too, just say they have a fare and the choice ..... Being up on what you can and cannot do is a matter of knowing your area bylaws back to front and using them to ones advantage. In 30 years of work (probably somewhere around 80,000 fares or more?) I have only had to deal with 16 complaints, none of which were found credible... I have never been suspended only warned for about three incidents and all of those were half pished with memory loss!! Licensing have to be seen to be doing there jobs, but now try to see both sides of the coin. Since many in my area have joined a trade union of sorts, licensing here have a far better attitude towards us.... :-| That is try to work with us instead of against and things get resolved that much better. It's the belligerent attitude of a few drivers that ruin it for all.... I dont like having to deal with licensing, but treating them as you would like to be treated goes a long way
I don't know what the LC will bring to us, does anyone here? I only have 5 years to go before I can "retire" so I hope it won't be too drastic or draconian, maybe it won't.....


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:30 pm 
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Come on now Sussex, in what other jobs could you expect to be treated like sh*te, by so many different sectors of society?

See that's my problem, if you can call it one, I don't actually allow others to treat me or my mates like sh**.

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wannabeeahack wrote:
everybody I know is on more than the NMW


Bollocks!! Not if you calculate the amount of hours you actually work in relation to all the benefits, like pensions, sick pay and holiday pay, you don't get. Unless of course, you are one of these special cabbies that make twice as much as everyone else. It's not the top but the bottom that counts. :-|


depends if its Jordan or Pippa Middleton your on about

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captain cab wrote:
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Not really, I left all that [edited by admin] behind me, when I got out. I think I only frequent this forum for a bit of light amusement and to see if anything ever changes, but it never really does. :-|



well you have lightened up a little :wink: :lol: :lol:


It's people like wannabeeahack that keep me going. I've come to realise that. However, bad it is for me. I could have been born a complete ar*e like him.



bad news......you were

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 6:40 pm 
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So you've left the trade yet still come peeking to see whats going on. I think maybe you had the wrong attitude towards being a taxi driver and that's why it wasn't for you. If you think everything you do and the people you carry are [edited by admin] and that the whole world is against you then it must be one lonely life. If you treat your customers with respect they respect you back and return again and again. it works well for us and that is how its provided for my family for 26 years now and a very good provider it has been


Fortunately, for myself, I choose not to see the world through rose-tinted spectacles, unlike you.

Twenty years ago, I could earn more than most people made all week, on a Saturday night. Now you are lucky to make the national minimum wage, especially if you take into account the benefits you don’t get such as pensions, sick pay or holiday pay.

As for actually being a taxi driver, the facts, are at odds with your fantasy version of what it means to be a cabby. You have no rights to speak of, and no equality before the law when facing a complaint. You are, if fact, forced to spill your guts to the cab inspector. You have no right to silence and can expect to be judged without any requirement of proof or credible evidence. You are, in fact, acting as a witness against yourself by speaking to the complaint.

As for respect, your customers, for the most part, don’t know who you are and simply don’t care about you. You are confusing respect with good manners. You might have earned a living for the last 26 years, but you’ve done it as a second-class citizen while kissing everyone on the arse for the privilege.

The above is what it really means to be a cabby, especially now. Shi* job, working shi* hours, picking up shi* people for shi* pay. #-o


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:57 pm 
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So you've left the trade yet still come peeking to see whats going on. I think maybe you had the wrong attitude towards being a taxi driver and that's why it wasn't for you. If you think everything you do and the people you carry are [edited by admin] and that the whole world is against you then it must be one lonely life. If you treat your customers with respect they respect you back and return again and again. it works well for us and that is how its provided for my family for 26 years now and a very good provider it has been


Fortunately, for myself, I choose not to see the world through rose-tinted glasses, unlike you.

Twenty years ago, I could earn more than most people made all week, on a Saturday night. Now you are lucky to make the national minimum wage, especially if you take into account the benefits you don’t get such as pensions, sick pay or holiday pay.

As for actually being a taxi driver, the facts, are at odds with your fantasy version of what it means to be a cabby. You have no rights to speak of, and no equality before the law when facing a complaint. You are, if fact, forced to spill your guts to the cab inspector. You have no right to silence and can expect to be judged without any requirement of proof or credible evidence. You are, in fact, acting as a witness against yourself by speaking to the complaint.

As for respect, your customers, for the most part, don’t know who you are and simply don’t care about you. You are confusing respect with good manners. You might have earned a living for the last 26 years, but you’ve done it as a second-class citizen while kissing everyone on the arse for the privilege.

The above is what it really means to be a cabby, especially now. Shi* job, working shi* hours, picking up shi* people for shi* pay. #-o


1 I don't think you see the world through rose tinted glasses because i think you've spent 20 years driving round with your head in a black bag.
2 20 years ago is a long time. obviously you have failed to move forward and adapt to different working practices and customer needs.
3 pensions and sick pay are available to the self employed and if you had done a bit research you would of known this.
4 Equality well again if you had done your research you would know we are public servants and do have laws protecting us.
5 Complaints well again you have both legal and human rights protecting you and again had you done a bit research you would know how to deal with them and your LA .
6 Respect well our customers for the most part do respect us. we have nights out with them and they call in for coffee/chat and to see how it works when they order a taxi. Friendships have been made and help given on both sides. We are all on 1st name terms(remember we are just a small office). So yes it is respect
7 Second class well if you go around uneducated and treating all your customers with contempt while your scraping your knuckles along the ground as you walk then yes you would be treated as a second class citizen.
I'm surprised you lasted as long as you did


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 7:57 pm 
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Sussex wrote:
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Come on now Sussex, in what other jobs could you expect to be treated like sh*te, by so many different sectors of society?

See that's my problem, if you can call it one, I don't actually allow others to treat me or my mates like sh**.

By anyone.


So how does your local authority deal with you, when facing a complaint, founded or otherwise? Do you get a fair hearing where you are informed of your rights? Do you have a right to silence? That is, you are not forced to act as a witness against yourself by speaking to the complaint, while under threat of losing your licence? And do they need credible evidence to suspend or revoke a licence?

Or is it a case of, "come up here and spill you guts and we might look on you favorably, and allow you to keep your licence?"

Perhaps your LA, is like any other local authority, and just make it up as they go along, while working to their own political agendas? :?


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:03 pm 
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townhalltaxis wrote:
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townhalltaxis wrote:
So you've left the trade yet still come peeking to see whats going on. I think maybe you had the wrong attitude towards being a taxi driver and that's why it wasn't for you. If you think everything you do and the people you carry are [edited by admin] and that the whole world is against you then it must be one lonely life. If you treat your customers with respect they respect you back and return again and again. it works well for us and that is how its provided for my family for 26 years now and a very good provider it has been


Fortunately, for myself, I choose not to see the world through rose-tinted glasses, unlike you.

Twenty years ago, I could earn more than most people made all week, on a Saturday night. Now you are lucky to make the national minimum wage, especially if you take into account the benefits you don’t get such as pensions, sick pay or holiday pay.

As for actually being a taxi driver, the facts, are at odds with your fantasy version of what it means to be a cabby. You have no rights to speak of, and no equality before the law when facing a complaint. You are, if fact, forced to spill your guts to the cab inspector. You have no right to silence and can expect to be judged without any requirement of proof or credible evidence. You are, in fact, acting as a witness against yourself by speaking to the complaint.

As for respect, your customers, for the most part, don’t know who you are and simply don’t care about you. You are confusing respect with good manners. You might have earned a living for the last 26 years, but you’ve done it as a second-class citizen while kissing everyone on the arse for the privilege.

The above is what it really means to be a cabby, especially now. Shi* job, working shi* hours, picking up shi* people for shi* pay. #-o


1 I don't think you see the world through rose tinted glasses because i think you've spent 20 years driving round with your head in a black bag.
2 20 years ago is a long time. obviously you have failed to move forward and adapt to different working practices and customer needs.
3 pensions and sick pay are available to the self employed and if you had done a bit research you would of known this.
4 Equality well again if you had done your research you would know we are public servants and do have laws protecting us.
5 Complaints well again you have both legal and human rights protecting you and again had you done a bit research you would know how to deal with them and your LA .
6 Respect well our customers for the most part do respect us. we have nights out with them and they call in for coffee/chat and to see how it works when they order a taxi. Friendships have been made and help given on both sides. We are all on 1st name terms(remember we are just a small office). So yes it is respect
7 Second class well if you go around uneducated and treating all your customers with contempt while your scraping your knuckles along the ground as you walk then yes you would be treated as a second class citizen.
I'm surprised you lasted as long as you did



:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: You are delusional. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: Can I suggest you read my previous post again, but this time keeping in context with, the facts, I have quoted and without looking through your rose-tinted spectacles? :lol: :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:10 pm 
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Skull wrote:
Come on now Sussex, in what other jobs could you expect to be treated like sh*te, by so many different sectors of society?

See that's my problem, if you can call it one, I don't actually allow others to treat me or my mates like sh**.

By anyone.


So how does your local authority deal with you, when facing a complaint, founded or otherwise? Do you get a fair hearing where you are informed of your rights? Do you have a right to silence? That is, you are not forced to act as a witness against yourself by speaking to the complaint, while under threat of losing your licence? And do they need credible evidence to suspend or revoke a licence?

Or is it a case of, "come up here and spill you guts and we might look on you favorably, and allow you to keep your licence?"

Perhaps your LA, is like any other local authority, and just make it up as they go along, while working to their own political agendas? :?

Again Section 5 on my previous posting. the local authority will deal with you in whatever way you allow it. At the end of the day they are public servants just the same as taxi drivers. You have many channels open to you and all you have to do is learn them. But in 9 out of 10 complaints most are more effectively dealt with face to face. Its all down to knowing your rifghts


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1 I don't think you see the world through rose tinted glasses because i think you've spent 20 years driving round with your head in a black bag.

On the contrary, I merely speak the truth as dictated by the facts of the situation or circumstances.

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2 20 years ago is a long time. obviously you have failed to move forward and adapt to different working practices and customer needs.

What different working practices and customer needs, you drive a taxi numpty. You pick people up and take them from A to B for financial reward.

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3 pensions and sick pay are available to the self employed and if you had done a bit research you would of known this.

Yes. And you would know if you pay all the above the way a real employer does, there’s feck all left to live off. As I said, the national minimum rate, that’s if you are lucky.

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4 Equality well again if you had done your research you would know we are public servants and do have laws protecting us.

You are not public servants. You are self-employed and at most, are pseudo employees of the council, and you have no rights to speak of when faced with a complaint by a member of the public.

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5 Complaints well again you have both legal and human rights protecting you and again had you done a bit research you would know how to deal with them and your LA .

No, once again you are wrong. You have few or no real legal rights, at least not any you can access without spending lots of your own money. Telling someone they have legal rights and actually accessing those rights is a completely different story. I can put you in contact with the head registrar of the law society if you don’t believe me. Without money, you have no rights, human or otherwise.

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6 Respect well our customers for the most part do respect us. we have nights out with them and they call in for coffee/chat and to see how it works when they order a taxi. Friendships have been made and help given on both sides. We are all on 1st name terms(remember we are just a small office). So yes it is respect

I’ll give you that, but you obviously work in a small town and not in the city. Taxi driving in a city is a whole different ball game.


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2012 8:41 pm 
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Again Section 5 on my previous posting. the local authority will deal with you in whatever way you allow it. At the end of the day they are public servants just the same as taxi drivers. You have many channels open to you and all you have to do is learn them. But in 9 out of 10 complaints most are more effectively dealt with face to face. Its all down to knowing your rifghts


Taxi drivers are not public servants, you muppet. And your local authority deals with you in the way the choose and not the way you allow. #-o

If you are not informed of your rights, then you have none. You are not asked to agree to a meeting and nor are you informed of your rights. You are told there has been a complaint made, and if you don't come up here and spill your guts to our satisfaction then your licence is gone. There is no requirement for credible evidence to remove a licence. Your council is only required to give you a hearing in which they follow certain procedures, and that is it. Oh and btw, the above is all fact. :wink: If you believe otherwise you are dreaming. #-o

Oh and I've been through the CGSA 1982 and spoken to lawyers at various levels right up to the Law Society of Scotland. Everything I am telling you is fact.


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