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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:29 pm 
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Pro rata, twenty years ago, a taxi driver in Edinburgh would have to more than double his net income at the present date, to be at the same level when I started driving in the early nineties.

Now hows that for putting things into perspective?




Turn the clock back twenty years for most professions, and you could say that you were pay packet wise, better off!!! We are now talking about today! a lot of drivers are worse off - but a lot are still making a living that is a lot better than most :wink:

Just to put things into perspective.....................we are talking about today "2012" not "1992" :wink:

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:40 pm 
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cabby john wrote:
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Pro rata, twenty years ago, a taxi driver in Edinburgh would have to more than double his net income at the present date, to be at the same level when I started driving in the early nineties.

Now hows that for putting things into perspective?




Turn the clock back twenty years for most professions, and you could say that you were pay packet wise, better off!!! We are now talking about today! a lot of drivers are worse off - but a lot are still making a living that is a lot better than most :wink:

Just to put things into perspective.....................we are talking about today "2012" not "1992" :wink:


And without exception, I think if any of you worked a 38-hour week, none of you would be making a living. I think it's always better to have a realistic perspective. :wink: oh and we are talking about today "2012" not "1992" :wink:


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 6:56 pm 
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Skull wrote:
cabby john wrote:
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Pro rata, twenty years ago, a taxi driver in Edinburgh would have to more than double his net income at the present date, to be at the same level when I started driving in the early nineties.

Now hows that for putting things into perspective?




Turn the clock back twenty years for most professions, and you could say that you were pay packet wise, better off!!! We are now talking about today! a lot of drivers are worse off - but a lot are still making a living that is a lot better than most :wink:

Just to put things into perspective.....................we are talking about today "2012" not "1992" :wink:


And without exception, I think if any of you worked a 38-hour week, none of you would be making a living. I think it's always better to have a realistic perspective. :wink: oh and we are talking about today "2012" not "1992" :wink:


There's no such thing as the 40 hour week anymore Skull Unless you work in the public sector..... :roll: :wink:
Life is sh*te for most these days unless you are a career politician or a city banker......


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:32 pm 
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The working hours in the taxi trade have never been good, especially if you wanted the opportunity to make real money, but these days are long gone. However, what I’ve witnessed over the last twenty years is a sort of self-flagellation, where everyone was hell-bent on beating themselves into the ground and then denying it was happening.

Now everyone seems to be saying, things could be worse. Standards may have dropped. You can still make a good living, if you are prepared to work a hundred hours a week, and it’s not just us. It's bad for everyone.

The only constants I can see here are self-delusion and denial, it’s not happening, and if it is, it’s not as bad as it might be, fingers crossed. #-o


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 7:52 pm 
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The way i look at it is i make a living,it pays the bills ect.Where years ago it spoilt me !


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:00 pm 
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Talk about going off topic. #-o

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:03 pm 
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The way i look at it is i make a living,it pays the bills ect.Where years ago it spoilt me !


So, back then you were undeserving, and now you only get what you rightfully deserve. #-o

I remember, back in the good old days, when you could get a hard days work for a damn good thrashing. :)

Did you work for me, at anytime Blackpool? I seem to remember someone by that name. :? :? :? :lol: :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:26 pm 
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Skull wrote:
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The way i look at it is i make a living,it pays the bills ect.Where years ago it spoilt me !


So, back then you were undeserving, and now you only get what you rightfully deserve. #-o

I remember, back in the good old days, when you could get a hard days work for a damn good thrashing. :)

Did you work for me, at anytime Blackpool? I seem to remember someone by that name. :? :? :? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Back then i earnt more than i knew how to spend,but i did try :wink: As for working for you, i think id remember that !


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blackpool wrote:
Skull wrote:
blackpool wrote:
The way i look at it is i make a living,it pays the bills ect.Where years ago it spoilt me !


So, back then you were undeserving, and now you only get what you rightfully deserve. #-o

I remember, back in the good old days, when you could get a hard days work for a damn good thrashing. :)

Did you work for me, at anytime Blackpool? I seem to remember someone by that name. :? :? :? :lol: :lol: :lol:

Back then i earnt more than i knew how to spend,but i did try :wink: As for working for you, i think id remember that !


Yes, boy, and you would have the whip and boot marks to prove it. Ah those were the days... :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:40 pm 
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The working hours in the taxi trade have never been good, especially if you wanted the opportunity to make real money, but these days are long gone. However, what I’ve witnessed over the last twenty years is a sort of self-flagellation, where everyone was hell-bent on beating themselves into the ground and then denying it was happening.

Now everyone seems to be saying, things could be worse. Standards may have dropped. You can still make a good living, if you are prepared to work a hundred hours a week, and it’s not just us. It's bad for everyone.

The only constants I can see here are self-delusion and denial, it’s not happening, and if it is, it’s not as bad as it might be, fingers crossed. #-o


I work a 30 - 40 hours a week, days only, and do alright.... I won't tell you what I really earn as nobody does.... :wink: I'm at the other end of my working life and can tell you now that life is reasonable.... Everything is paid off, no finance to worry about only the utilities. The wife lives in the comfort she deserves and does NOT work....I could take a couple of expensive holidays per year, but prefer to save it for other things that take my interest....
In the early 90's (the last recession) I was doing 70 hours plus per week and still paying off the high interest payments that were rife then. As I progressed in the trade things got a LOT easier during the good years....I don't think things have changed that much in actual hours worked especially if one has finance on the cab and all the other expenses etc. and maybe just starting out. It's true that most would not do this job as it's seen by you and most others as a sh*te job. For you that might be now, but it doesn't necessarily apply to all. Most cabbies are definitely deluded in what they earn for the hours they do and what they hope to achieve from it, Most spend money stupidly, but that is their business, I grant you that. Maybe some of us did it right somehow..... :-| I hear that CC does alright.... He spends a lot of time on the golf course.... right?.... :mrgreen:


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 8:42 pm 
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Talk about going off topic. #-o


ha ha!! :badgrin:


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:04 pm 
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towag wrote:
Skull wrote:
The working hours in the taxi trade have never been good, especially if you wanted the opportunity to make real money, but these days are long gone. However, what I’ve witnessed over the last twenty years is a sort of self-flagellation, where everyone was hell-bent on beating themselves into the ground and then denying it was happening.

Now everyone seems to be saying, things could be worse. Standards may have dropped. You can still make a good living, if you are prepared to work a hundred hours a week, and it’s not just us. It's bad for everyone.

The only constants I can see here are self-delusion and denial, it’s not happening, and if it is, it’s not as bad as it might be, fingers crossed. #-o


I work a 30 - 40 hours a week, days only, and do alright.... I won't tell you what I really earn as nobody does.... :wink: I'm at the other end of my working life and can tell you now that life is reasonable.... Everything is paid off, no finance to worry about only the utilities. The wife lives in the comfort she deserves and does NOT work....I could take a couple of expensive holidays per year, but prefer to save it for other things that take my interest....
In the early 90's (the last recession) I was doing 70 hours plus per week and still paying off the high interest payments that were rife then. As I progressed in the trade things got a LOT easier during the good years....I don't think things have changed that much in actual hours worked especially if one has finance on the cab and all the other expenses etc. and maybe just starting out. It's true that most would not do this job as it's seen by you and most others as a sh*te job. For you that might be now, but it doesn't necessarily apply to all. Most cabbies are definitely deluded in what they earn for the hours they do and what they hope to achieve from it, Most spend money stupidly, but that is their business, I grant you that. Maybe some of us did it right somehow..... :-| I hear that CC does alright.... He spends a lot of time on the golf course.... right?.... :mrgreen:


I rest my case towag. When things start turning to shi*e people start quoting the exceptions to the rule and not the rule. Then the exception becomes the norm. It’s a bit like blaming the sinking of the Titanic on the sea. :-|

I take your point that you try to look at the reality of things, but most don't. They are totally delusional. Reality has no place in their world, and they will pin their hopes to anything, other than the truth. :-|

Oh and that makes me wrong, and the self-delusional right. :-|


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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:23 pm 
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Not at all Skull. I think you had enough of the trade..... I wish you well in what ever you do. :wink: I do agree with you that most cabbies are basically lazy gits, physically as well as mentally dense, deluded and basically deserve everything they get.
I'm a DIYer and do most things myself, except that I don't know about, even then I go out and learn what I can for what I need....
I just found it fitted in with what I get up to and am interested in. It eventually gave me the freedom to do that....


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Not at all Skull. I think you had enough of the trade..... I wish you well in what ever you do. :wink: I do agree with you that most cabbies are basically lazy gits, physically as well as mentally dense, deluded and basically deserve everything they get.
I'm a DIYer and do most things myself, except that I don't know about, even then I go out and learn what I can for what I need....
I just found it fitted in with what I get up to and am interested in. It eventually gave me the freedom to do that....


Careful towag, you could be joining the minority in the truth movement.

Oh I'd had enough alright. I could barely look at a cab without feeling sick to the stomach. I needed to escape, no more scumbag councillors or members of the public and no dimwitted cabbies. Although, there are a few on here, but they give me a good laugh. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2012 2:49 am 
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Careful towag, you could be joining the minority in the truth movement.

Oh I'd had enough alright. I could barely look at a cab without feeling sick to the stomach. I needed to escape, no more scumbag councillors or members of the public and no dimwitted cabbies. Although, there are a few on here, but they give me a good laugh.


I think that it is easy to look at the way that the trade has turned out, in turn knocking it. You have to remember that it is also the same for most trades/professions who thought that they would be sorted for life, unfortunately times have changed for many, and not for the best. You should remember the good times! if you do not then all you will have is bitterness.

It would seem that you (Skull) have retired, and that you are okay - then there are the likes of (towrag,) and myself who have our finances sorted out - but are still (in my case doing weekends only) to have a good life style. I will still pass on tips to others if it makes their life a bit easier, instead of running the trade down as it does have it's pluses!!

This country (mainland Britain) is basically in four parts - England, Scotland,Wales, and London! One out of four is not really affected by the recession!!!

My tip is that if you are really stuffed for being employed, then you have to be prepared to up root and to take the knowledge....it is like going to University 2/3 years, get your qualifications, stick with it and pass, and then get a great remunerative package at the end.

This should give the person concerned and his/her family a good life style - forget all the doom mongers who say differently - think positive! as they say, we do not have problems - but a challenge.

It is too late for us, but do not do the trade down as you would have finished years ago if your finances permitted you to do so. I think that it is fair to say that they were not in place, and you stuck it out until the time was right - if all was not in place then you would still be doing it.

When you get to a certain age............what are your options!!!!?

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